Things you have learned along the way.

[Swellin]

This could turn into a very good source of information...for newbies and old pros alike.
List some of the little things you have learned since you started using gear...not the stuff normally seen on these boards, just little intricacies.

1) Order your syringes with the drawing pin already on them (20-21g)...this cuts down on handling the syringe and the needles.

2) I can't inject delts or traps the day after working bis...they cramp...I end up rubbing my arm to remove the cramp...while a syringe is left dangling from my flesh (this results in pain later on).


3) Prior to injecting, stretch the muscle you are injecting...don't flex it.


You get the point...let's hear some of your advice

[TheMudMan]

This could turn into a very good source of information...for newbies and old pros alike.
List some of the little things you have learned since you started using gear...not the stuff normally seen on these boards, just little intricacies.

1) Order your syringes with the drawing pin already on them (20-21g)...this cuts down on handling the syringe and the needles.

2) I can't inject delts or traps the day after working bis...they cramp...I end up rubbing my arm to remove the cramp...while a syringe is left dangling from my flesh (this results in pain later on).


3) Prior to injecting, stretch the muscle you are injecting...don't flex it.


You get the point...let's hear some of your advice

Those are good ones..........

1. When ordering gear have your sources checked by a few MODS and VETS..... Don't take the word of just one person,

2. If you follow #1 you should be fine with this but always know what your injecting is legit and nothing that will make you sick.

3. I make sure I have everything to finish my cycle from gear, pins, anti-e's, supps.............. You don't want to be looking for these things after you have started.

[mass junkie]

I LEARNED theres no such thing as "im just gonna do one cylce to help get me where i wanna be"

[powerlifter]

Those are good ones..........

1. When ordering gear have your sources checked by a few MODS and VETS..... Don't take the word of just one person,

2. If you follow #1 you should be fine with this but always know what your injecting is legit and nothing that will make you sick.

3. I make sure I have everything to finish my cycle from gear, pins, anti-e's, supps.............. You don't want to be looking for these things after you have started.

I was going to say that Mudman - geteverything you are going to need for a cycle before you even start - right down to vitamins and supps.

[powerlifter]

Oh here's another - don't go shooting off your mouth about anything !!!!!

[Da Bull]

Always have around what I like to call "A CYCLE WHORE"...this is a must when you get bored with your porn collection and girlfriend





I'll get back with serious input later.......little busy right now.

[powerlifter]

Always have around what I like to call "A CYCLE WHORE"...this is a must when you get bored with your porn collection and girlfriend





I'll get back with serious input later.......little busy right now.

DB - you are a baaaaaaad man

[Solrock]

Funny Da Bull

1) Get/find a secure place to dispose of pins. The last thing you need is a couple needles in the trash when your girlfriend or girlfriends parents are visiting.

2) This should be common knowledge, but it is too import not to list: Aspirate !

3) More is not always better

4) Cut the prop, with something, anything! (sterile oil or other gear)

[CASHUS7]

1. A LIFTING PARTNER IS A MUST. EVEN IF THEY DONT KNOW YOUR ON CYCLE
2. DO EVERY THING YOU CAN TO PREVENT INJURY THE ARE A SERIOUS BUZZ KILL.
3. IAM ALSO WITH DA BULL ON THE CYCLE WHORE

[groverman1]

1. Have everything on hand before starting, no exceptions.
2. Massage the injection site afterward, it help with post injection pain.
3. Read up as much about a particular AS before using.

[BigBoy21]

I LEARNED theres no such thing as "im just gonna do one cylce to help get me where i wanna be"

So true..so true

[TheSevnthWarrior]

I LEARNED theres no such thing as "im just gonna do one cylce to help get me where i wanna be"

lol....That one's Universal right there
TSW

[monstercojones]

1) needles are your friend...

2) pct is a must if you value your sense of maleness...

3) sharing or re-using needles is something herion addicts do, not responsible steroid users...

4) eq or pot: the cure for "i eat everything in sight but i still can't seem to gain weight."

5) AR is the best board around, bar-none...


6) you can drink winny...

[UrbanLegend]

Great post, very informative, definitly sticky material once more there are some more responses.

[TheSevnthWarrior]

1) Injuries, Workout Ending Injuries come in a Snap (sometimes literaly) if you are unfortunate enough to have one of these "season ending" injuries, and YOU DON'T HAVE PCT READY, you have a problem - Have it Before You Start!
2) Cycles often don't go exactly like you planned, I've tried to stop at 16 weeks the last two times and didn't do it, and I won't be this time either.
3) Price is Relative
4)Put your Pride in your pocket, and ask as many questions as you can, but don't believe it until you've proven it true.
5) Just because Billy said that's what he did and it worked for him, doesn't mean it'll work for you.
6) Old guys do stupid things in the Gym that really work.
7)You cannot get enough Sex (Yes it does go here)
8) You are NOT going to go from Play Station Pilot to Thick and Shredded in time for Spring Break, or Summer for that matter.
9)Work out like you not only HAVE a goal, but you want it NOW!
10) If you think you've just hurt something pretty bad, you probably did.
11)Diet, Traning, and Sleep, are TEN TIMES more Important than the Gear.

[the dent depot]

[QUOTE=TheSevnthWarrior]1) Injuries, Workout Ending Injuries come in a Snap (sometimes literaly) if you are unfortunate enough to have one of these "season ending" injuries, and YOU DON'T HAVE PCT READY, you have a problem - Have it Before You Start!
2) Cycles often don't go exactly like you planned, I've tried to stop at 16 weeks the last two times and didn't do it, and I won't be this time either.
3) Price is Relative
4)Put your Pride in your pocket, and ask as many questions as you can, but don't believe it until you've proven it true.
5) Just because Billy said that's what he did and it worked for him, doesn't mean it'll work for you.
6) Old guys do stupid things in the Gym that really work.
7)You cannot get enough Sex (Yes it does go here)
8) You are NOT going to go from Play Station Pilot to Thick and Shredded in time for Spring Break, or Summer for that matter.
9)Work out like you not only HAVE a goal, but you want it NOW!
10) If you think you've just hurt something pretty bad, you probably did.
11)Diet, Traning, and Sleep, are TEN TIMES more Important than the Gear.[/QUOTE]

That is the best one yet IMO. So freakin true.

D

[1badcamaro]

i've learned to research research research on here before i go asking stupid questions like i did in the beginning, oh by the way, i wanna cut and bulk as the same time so i can be ready for summer.....what do you guys suggest?

[1badcamaro]

i've learned to research research research on here before i go asking stupid questions like i did in the beginning, oh by the way, i wanna cut and bulk as the same time so i can be ready for summer.....what do you guys suggest, lol!

last but not least i've learned that this guy is the s***

[Jack87]

To get respect...

You must give respect...

Simply treat others as you wish to be treated...

[Swellin]

Here is something else that I recently learned.....

If you plan on running the syringe under hot water...make sure the needle cap is on very tight! Otherwise, you can get tap water on the needle...not a problem unless you pull back on the plnger to change needles...now you have tap water in the syringe...not good! I just squirted some rather costly BD product into the sink and had to start over for the day...with a whole new syringe and a new set of needles...of course.

[RussianVodka]

Always have around what I like to call "A CYCLE WHORE"...this is a must when you get bored with your porn collection and girlfriend

Yep, this right!!!!! Must have

[not2bigyet]

This one's for the newbie's...DON'T FORGET YOU HAVE LEGS!!! WORK THEM OUT!!! you'll thank me later!

[trailrider38]

Have your cycle planned out on paper or a calendar, stick to the schedule!

[Swellin]

Let's bump this for the Sunday crowd.

[SV-1]

1) Order your syringes with the drawing pin already on them (20-21g)...this cuts down on handling the syringe and the needles.

Yep I'm guilty of not doing this one. When I ordered pinz for my first cycle I made the mistake of getting the syringes with the injection pinz already on them. And I was doing ED injections.

Off came the 25g, on went the 18g and then right back on went the 25g.

Never again.

[partyboynyc]

a little thing i repeat to myself everyday now. i'm not a big eater and that hurts muscle gain so now i consstantly repeat to myself."Do It With Diet"!
drugs are fine, but do it w/ diet. for me it's a real struggle to consume a ton of calories, but it's the only way. for me thats' the most imoortant thing i've learned, less drugs more clean food!

[Swellin]

a little thing i repeat to myself everyday now. i'm not a big eater and that hurts muscle gain so now i consstantly repeat to myself."Do It With Diet"!
drugs are fine, but do it w/ diet. for me it's a real struggle to consume a ton of calories, but it's the only way. for me thats' the most imoortant thing i've learned, less drugs more clean food!

Awesome post Party! That is a huge problem....sometimes, it is hard to get a handle on your diet. Diet is probably the number one place I screw up...and I know I am not alone.

[IronPumper80]

I LEARNED theres no such thing as "im just gonna do one cylce to help get me where i wanna be"

That is SO true!!

[Consistency]

before drawing say 1 cc out of the vial.... inject 1 cc of air into the vial... this will make it alot easier to draw out

[monstercojones]

before drawing say 1 cc out of the vial.... inject 1 cc of air into the vial... this will make it alot easier to draw out

great one... i didnt learn that until my second cycle... made things much easier.

[craneboy]

ask questions, get answers, dont guess or assume !

[JoeB]

I thought my first cycle was going to make me huge. Since I've learned...
1. Food makes you huge.
2. Steroids are a suppliment.

[Jack87]

Great one...

Also always draw with a 20 or 22 gauge pin and

then change to a new pin before injecting...

That rubber in the vial makes those things dull quick...

before drawing say 1 cc out of the vial.... inject 1 cc of air into the vial... this will make it alot easier to draw out

[timmz11]

some great things i've learned....only one comes to mind thus far...(NOTE: i have yet to do a cycle)..
but whatever...and i mean whatever you do....please do not start a post asking a question of any type...using the title description "SCAMMER" anywhere listed...haha..
trust me..its not a good idea....been there done that.haha....jk guys....


timmz

[Jack87]

Funny...

You learn quick...

[newtogear]

BUMP

these are great tips. this should be a sticky!! i wish i had seen this thread earlier. one thing that definitely stuck out was to buy the syringe w/ the drawing needle on it and buy the injecting needles seperately. what a nussance this will be on my first cycle. anyway, there are a ton of great tips from experienced veterans on this thread. good stuff.

[50%Natural]

don't listen to people who don't have a clue such as people saying var and winny will kill your liver. Do your own research and come up with the answer yourself. A lot of people who give advice on chat forums only give the advice they have read else where but have not attempted in the least bit. I don't listen to that as I have figured out that 17aa, with protection in place, are not going to make you die like people make out. Some people's advice and warnings are so over rated, i pay no mind. Not clowning on anyone in particular, just something i've addressed before and that some newb tried critiquing a cycle of mine on.

Easy way to sum this up, if you are getting advice about particular aas, check someone's profile to see if they've actually taken the substance, and if not, second guess it.

[goodtobeapimp]

Dedication to your diet and training are the difference between black and white. You can't gain much without eating anything and your going to have a tough time gaining when your sitting on the couch. Go into each workout with a killer instinct, without intensity your never going to be able to set mental goals for yourself. Not everyday is going to be a good day. Those are the days your going to see how strong you really are. You'll get in what you put in. When you see something you don't like you prolly wont have to go much farther then your diet.

Don't compare yourself to others, let them compare themselves to you. It's a sign your unsure of yourself. Don't ever let someone bring you down,because the percentage of the people that will give you and educated answer compared to a smartass,jealous,arrogant comment is extremely low. Mirrors dont lie,but neither do weights. It's one thing to have confidence about yourself,but it's another thing to be too sure of yourself. No matter who you are you can always learn new things everyday..Keep a solid and open mind and it will get you farther then anything else..

[test is best]

1 dont tell anyone you are on juice
2 Diet is key
3 injecting is fun!!!!!!!!!

[WS6_KID]

#1 (if your cycle includes a healthy amount of test) A "CYCLE WHORE" is a MUST.
#2 Have everything ready prior to starting all gear, anti-e's, pinz, grocery $$$ and a first aid kit just in case.
#3 I actually would recommend making a print sheet of your cycle and tell at least one person you are on (someone close of course) This way should your gear be fake or if anything else goes wrong and you cant get yourself to the emergency room then they can + plus they have a list of whats in your body.
#4 Get a Cycle Whore
#5 Avoid stressful situations I find i'm alot shorter tempered when "on"
#6 Same as 5, pick a time in your life where there arent any forecasted major changes coming your way.
#7 I'd recommend a training partner just to have some competition and some one to keep you motivated
#8 Mark your shots on a calendar, I have a cell phone that has a built in calendar, so I set daily alarms. This helps alot especially when its week 10 and you have other things going on.
#8 EAT EAT EAT, I dont mean just protein shakes. EAT that solid food, steaks, chicken breasts, potatoes, oatmeal if you not full 90% of your waking hours your not eating enough.
#9 Keep a training log and go up in poundages on lifts each week
#10 GET A CYCLE WHORE!