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03-22-2004, 12:39 PM #1
17AA and liver damage
Hi there bro's, it's a simple but a controversial question.
What causes more damage to the liver? Low 17aa dosis for a long period of time or high dosis for a short period???
I've made some resource and did get anything from the net....
Thanks
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03-22-2004, 12:42 PM #2
I think both will end up causing damage. I don't think it's a win or lose situation. Low doses over time will cause damage as will high doses over shorter times.
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03-22-2004, 12:57 PM #3
i just looked at my blood results while running A-50 at 200mg/ed for 4 weeks and sust...1gr/week...my SGOT was 5.9...only .9 over normal and my red blood count was high also,but not by much ..i think that was 5.8,which is not exactly a bad thing..but you have to exspect a higher count while on but it will drop back to normal...keep it short.
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03-22-2004, 01:00 PM #4
In any event, the "damage" is reversible. So, the lower doses over a longer period will give less "damage" if measured at any one time point versus high doses for shorter periods measured at any one time point. You'll have a net damage:repair ratio in either case. In general, the "damage" is overexaggerated and not looked at in the proper context.....that is, with respect to normal liver values for resistance training individuals.
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03-22-2004, 01:21 PM #5
when compared to daily alchol abuse there isnt much diff, both damage your liver, but its not as sever as people want you to think
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03-22-2004, 05:43 PM #6
Thanks for all the input.
As far as results, taking stanazolol as an example, if you run 4 weeks 50mg/ed, in theory, will we get the same results as taking 8 weeks 50mg/eod?
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03-22-2004, 05:46 PM #7
Haha...I'd run 50mg ed for 6 weeks.
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03-22-2004, 06:05 PM #8
OK MoneyBoss...that's the way i have mine too. I'm just tryng to conclude if there's any proportion on period-dosis-gains-liver stress .
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04-03-2004, 08:42 PM #9
Uma pequena analogia :
Logan XXX um 17aa é como cutucar a ferida, eles causam mais dano devido a esse agrupamento alquil no carbono 17 que impossibilita a hidrólise imediata, fazendo que o msm seja filtrado diversas vezes antes que isso ocorra certo ?
È como uma dano consecutivo que o msm seja pelo menor tempo possível msm que isso queira dizer aplicações diárias.
Isso claro sem levar em consideração o fato da mv curta que ser de aproximadamente 24hrs.
I preffer a ed dosagem for a short period.
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04-03-2004, 08:57 PM #10Originally Posted by kusanagi
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04-03-2004, 09:31 PM #11
last time i checked, people on this board spoke english...
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04-03-2004, 10:01 PM #12
I say....
One 17aa causes more damage due to this grouping alquil in carbon 17 that it disables immediate hydrolysis, making that same either filtered diverse times before this occurs right ?
A consecutive damage that msm either for the lesser possible time same that this wants to say daily applications.
Sorry about my english.
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