03-22-2004, 08:29 PM #1
Help with Estrogenic Fat Deposits
Is there a way to prevent/limit estrogenic fat deposits. Of late, I seem to be get puffy nipples. I was wondering if I took a very low dose of Ndex would it help. I'm trying to watch the diet, cardio, etc. but I notice the shape of my nipples changing. They seem to be puffy above the gland. There's no lumps, soreness, etc.
03-22-2004, 08:39 PM #2
Are you on cycle or did you just start to notice this?
03-22-2004, 08:43 PM #3
03-22-2004, 08:44 PM #4
Gyno isnt always accompanied by the typical irritation associated with it.
Heck yea, I would jump on some Ndex and Nolva.
03-22-2004, 08:45 PM #5Senior Member
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hope this helps bro:
Femara®(generic name is letrozole ) is a new drug developed for the
of advanced breast cancer in women. Femara is the second in a new class
of third-generation selective oral aromatase inhibitors.. It acts by
blocking the enzyme aromatase, subsequently blocking the production of
estrogen. Since many forms of breast cancer cells are stimulated by
it is hoped that by reducing amounts of estrogen in the body the
of such a disease can be halted. This is the basic premise behind
except this drug blocks the action and not production of estrogen. The
effects of Femara can be quite dramatic to say the least. A daily dose
of (2.5 mg) can produce estrogen suppression greater than 80 % in
patients. With the powerful effect this drug has on hormone levels, it
is only to be used (clinically) by post-menopausal women whose disease
has progressed following treatment with Nolvadex. Side effects like hot
flushes and hair thinning can be present, and would no doubt be much
more severe in pre-menopausal patients.
For the steroid using male athlete, Femara shows great potential. Up
to this point, drugs like Nolvadex and Proviron have been our weapons
against excess estrogen. These drugs, especially in combination, do
quite effective. But Femara appears able to do the job much more
and with less hassle. Its use is only now catching on, but early
have been excellent. A single tablet daily, the same dose use
seems to be all one needs for an exceptional effect (some even report
excellent results with only 1/4 tablet daily). When used with strong,
readily aromatizing androgens such as Dianabol or testosterone ,
and water retention can be effectively blocked. In combination with
(finasteride), we have a great advance. With the one drug halting
conversion and the other blocking 5-alpha reduction (testosterone,
and Halotestin only), related side effects can be effectively
Here the strong androgen testosterone could theoretically provide
muscular growth, while at the same time being as tolerable as
Additionally the quality of the muscle should be greater, the athlete
appearing harder and much more defined without holding excess water.
There are some concerns with using an aromatase inhibitor such as this
during prolonged steroid treatment however. While it will effectively
reduce estrogenic side effects, it will also block the beneficial
of estrogen from becoming apparent (namely its effect on cholesterol
values). Studies have clearly shown that when an aromatase inhibitor
is used in conjunction with a steroid such as testosterone, suppression
of HDL (good) cholesterol becomes much more pronounced. Apparently
plays a role in minimizing the negative impact of steroid use . Since
the estrogen receptor antagonist Nolvadex does not display an
effect on cholesterol values, it is the preferred from of estrogen
for those concerned with cardiovascular health.
03-22-2004, 08:49 PM #6
I don't think I need Femara! A little too strong for the AS I'm using.
Inherit...Ndex is Nolva
03-22-2004, 08:50 PM #7
03-22-2004, 08:51 PM #8
I'm also doing 1/4 Proscar per day
03-22-2004, 08:52 PM #9Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
03-22-2004, 08:52 PM #10
As your odds of having any Femara laying around are slim at best, I would jump on some Nolva ASAP and see if it provides any noticeable reduction in the swelling..What dose of test are you taking?
03-22-2004, 08:54 PM #11
PurePower..Post where you got that information as they deserve credit for the information..Don't want everyone thinking you are turning into a **** brainiac..Seriously though, if you copied and pasted that information, give them credit for it..Doc M
03-22-2004, 09:00 PM #12Originally Posted by Doc M
03-22-2004, 09:00 PM #13Originally Posted by Doc M
Anyway here's everything I'm on...
Feb 5th started taking 40mg anavar ED
March 18th started taking 250mg test E EW
March 18th started taking 50mg test P EOD (for 3 weeks only)
March 20th started taking 1.25mg Finasteride ED
I cannot figure this out...my last cycle I was doing test P, test e, and dbol and I didn't have any problems...except from the dbol.
Getting any product is not an issue!
03-22-2004, 09:02 PM #14Senior Member
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dang my bad bros.............sorry Doc M........
03-22-2004, 09:06 PM #15Senior Member
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The place where i got that information from was from a "source"....and he doesnt cite the work.
I hope that everyone doesnt think that i wrote that....=-)
03-22-2004, 09:10 PM #16Originally Posted by PurePower
Cold..It will definitely help, but it is a little to strong in my opinion unless you are taking heavier doses..And I will also add that the use of Femara is relatively unstudied in the BB'ing world..At least very little..I would stick to using Nolva in my opinion..At least for now..
03-22-2004, 10:49 PM #17
I just did 40mg Ndex and will do another 20mg before bed.
I will keep everyone updated.
03-23-2004, 02:34 PM #18
Anyone else want to chime in?
I wouldn't mind hearing some opinions. I know how to treat gyno...but I have never experienced this before.
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