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    Help with Estrogenic Fat Deposits

    Is there a way to prevent/limit estrogenic fat deposits. Of late, I seem to be get puffy nipples. I was wondering if I took a very low dose of Ndex would it help. I'm trying to watch the diet, cardio, etc. but I notice the shape of my nipples changing. They seem to be puffy above the gland. There's no lumps, soreness, etc.

    Suggestions?

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    Are you on cycle or did you just start to notice this?

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    Started doing anavar about 6 weeks ago...test last week...but noticed change in nipples before the test.

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    Gyno isnt always accompanied by the typical irritation associated with it.

    Heck yea, I would jump on some Ndex and Nolva.

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    hope this helps bro:

    FemaraŽ(generic name is letrozole ) is a new drug developed for the
    treatment
    of advanced breast cancer in women. Femara is the second in a new class
    of third-generation selective oral aromatase inhibitors.. It acts by
    blocking the enzyme aromatase, subsequently blocking the production of
    estrogen. Since many forms of breast cancer cells are stimulated by
    estrogen,
    it is hoped that by reducing amounts of estrogen in the body the
    progression
    of such a disease can be halted. This is the basic premise behind
    Nolvadex ,
    except this drug blocks the action and not production of estrogen. The
    effects of Femara can be quite dramatic to say the least. A daily dose
    of (2.5 mg) can produce estrogen suppression greater than 80 % in
    treated
    patients. With the powerful effect this drug has on hormone levels, it
    is only to be used (clinically) by post-menopausal women whose disease
    has progressed following treatment with Nolvadex. Side effects like hot
    flushes and hair thinning can be present, and would no doubt be much
    more severe in pre-menopausal patients.

    For the steroid using male athlete, Femara shows great potential. Up
    to this point, drugs like Nolvadex and Proviron have been our weapons
    against excess estrogen. These drugs, especially in combination, do
    prove
    quite effective. But Femara appears able to do the job much more
    efficiently,
    and with less hassle. Its use is only now catching on, but early
    reports
    have been excellent. A single tablet daily, the same dose use
    clinically,
    seems to be all one needs for an exceptional effect (some even report
    excellent results with only 1/4 tablet daily). When used with strong,
    readily aromatizing androgens such as Dianabol or testosterone ,
    gynecomastia
    and water retention can be effectively blocked. In combination with
    Propecia
    (finasteride), we have a great advance. With the one drug halting
    estrogen
    conversion and the other blocking 5-alpha reduction (testosterone,
    methyltestosterone
    and Halotestin only), related side effects can be effectively
    minimized.
    Here the strong androgen testosterone could theoretically provide
    incredible
    muscular growth, while at the same time being as tolerable as
    nandrolone .
    Additionally the quality of the muscle should be greater, the athlete
    appearing harder and much more defined without holding excess water.

    There are some concerns with using an aromatase inhibitor such as this
    during prolonged steroid treatment however. While it will effectively
    reduce estrogenic side effects, it will also block the beneficial
    properties
    of estrogen from becoming apparent (namely its effect on cholesterol
    values). Studies have clearly shown that when an aromatase inhibitor
    is used in conjunction with a steroid such as testosterone, suppression
    of HDL (good) cholesterol becomes much more pronounced. Apparently
    estrogen
    plays a role in minimizing the negative impact of steroid use . Since
    the estrogen receptor antagonist Nolvadex does not display an
    anti-estrogenic
    effect on cholesterol values, it is the preferred from of estrogen
    maintenance
    for those concerned with cardiovascular health.

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    I don't think I need Femara! A little too strong for the AS I'm using.

    Inherit...Ndex is Nolva

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePower
    With the one drug halting estrogen conversion and the other blocking 5-alpha reduction (testosterone, methyltestosterone and Halotestin only), related side effects can be effectively minimized.
    Finasteride also prevents boldenone from becoming DHB.

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    I'm also doing 1/4 Proscar per day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
    I don't think I need Femara! A little too strong for the AS I'm using.

    Inherit...Ndex is Nolva
    Ahh, sorry about that, I meant Ldex and Ndex, really I did.

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    As your odds of having any Femara laying around are slim at best, I would jump on some Nolva ASAP and see if it provides any noticeable reduction in the swelling..What dose of test are you taking?

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    PurePower..Post where you got that information as they deserve credit for the information..Don't want everyone thinking you are turning into a **** brainiac..Seriously though, if you copied and pasted that information, give them credit for it..Doc M

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc M
    As your odds of having any Femara laying around are slim at best, I would jump on some Nolva ASAP and see if it provides any noticeable reduction in the swelling..What dose of test are you taking?

    Doc M
    would the femera really help in your professional opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc M
    As your odds of having any Femara laying around are slim at best, I would jump on some Nolva ASAP and see if it provides any noticeable reduction in the swelling..What dose of test are you taking?

    Doc M
    I'm trying a very low dose this time. I just started taking 250mg of test E with the anavar ...I'm looking to lean down but maintain LBM. I'm hoping this low dose will aid in my goals while I'm cutting my calories.

    Anyway here's everything I'm on...

    Feb 5th started taking 40mg anavar ED
    March 18th started taking 250mg test E EW
    March 18th started taking 50mg test P EOD (for 3 weeks only)
    March 20th started taking 1.25mg Finasteride ED

    I cannot figure this out...my last cycle I was doing test P, test e, and dbol and I didn't have any problems...except from the dbol.

    Getting any product is not an issue!

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    dang my bad bros.............sorry Doc M........

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    The place where i got that information from was from a "source"....and he doesnt cite the work.

    I hope that everyone doesnt think that i wrote that....=-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurePower
    dang my bad bros.............sorry Doc M........
    No need to apologize PP..I just like for people to get credit when the deserve it..

    Cold..It will definitely help, but it is a little to strong in my opinion unless you are taking heavier doses..And I will also add that the use of Femara is relatively unstudied in the BB'ing world..At least very little..I would stick to using Nolva in my opinion..At least for now..

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    I just did 40mg Ndex and will do another 20mg before bed.

    I will keep everyone updated.

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    Anyone else want to chime in?

    I wouldn't mind hearing some opinions. I know how to treat gyno...but I have never experienced this before.

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