First cycle...Critiques?

**El Diablo** · 03-24-2004, 09:18 PM

First one...Been reading for awhile...Any input is welcome..

Dbol weeks 1-4 30mg ed

Test enan weeks 1-10 500mg ew

Deca weeks 1-10 300mg ew The test should allow me to keep sex drive. lol

Nolva and clomid on hand as well. Suggestions?

**inheritmylife** · 03-24-2004, 09:28 PM

I don't think you will have any problems growing like crazy with just test and dbol . It is also one set of side effects to deal with.

I would SUGGEST dropping the deca for a later cycle. If you absolutely must run it, drop it back to week 9. Test en to week ten as is.

**inheritmylife** · 03-24-2004, 09:31 PM

Also, test 250mgs on two days of the week, Monday and Thursday work well. I would also suggest running 10mg Ndex ed for at least the amount of time you are on dbol , the stuff aromatizes like mad.

PCT: Clomid-300/100/50
Nolva-20mgs till day 28

**El Diablo** · 03-24-2004, 09:31 PM

Thanks, I wasnt sure on the deca myself. Hoping to gain some good weight off of this...Anyone had experience with dbol and test enan together? And should I stick with nolva/clomid?

**El Diablo** · 03-24-2004, 09:32 PM

Thanks for the PCT info bro

I was a bit confused on that , even after reading. Dbol does aromatize like no other from what i hear...I 've mainly been worried about its toxicity to the liver. :-/

**inheritmylife** · 03-24-2004, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by El Diablo

Thanks, I wasnt sure on the deca myself. Hoping to gain some good weight off of this...Anyone had experience with dbol and test enan together? And should I stick with nolva/clomid?

A little Ldex at .25 mgs ed through week 28 of PCT wouldnt hurt.

If you insist on the deca , B6 for sure.

**Consistency** · 03-24-2004, 09:33 PM

definetly stick with nolva during cycle and clomid post cycle. How many cycles have you done?

**El Diablo** · 03-24-2004, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Consistency

definetly stick with nolva during cycle and clomid post cycle. How many cycles have you done?

First one bro...Nervous and excited as hell.

**inheritmylife** · 03-24-2004, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by El Diablo

Thanks for the PCT info bro

I was a bit confused on that , even after reading. Dbol does aromatize like no other from what i hear...I 've mainly been worried about its toxicity to the liver. :-/

Its toxicity is one issue, at 30mgs and 4 weeks you'll be ok.
As it aromatizes quite a bit, the bloat will cause high BP-very bad. That can damage your kidneys. That is more of a concern in my eyes sice most guys are smart enough to run it for short durations, but insist on walking around like the Micheline Man

**El Diablo** · 03-24-2004, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by inheritmylife

Its toxicity is one issue, at 30mgs and 4 weeks you'll be ok.
As it aromatizes quite a bit, the bloat will cause high BP-very bad. That can damage your kidneys. That is more of a concern in my eyes sice most guys are smart enough to run it for short durations, but insist on walking around like the Micheline Man

That i plan on doing bro

**monstercojones** · 03-24-2004, 09:42 PM

yea run the ldex the entire time and you wont bloat up like the stay puff marshmellow man, whom i much prefer of the michelin imposter...

**monstercojones** · 03-24-2004, 09:42 PM

yea run the ldex the entire time and you wont bloat up like the stay puff marshmellow man, whom i much prefer to the michelin imposter...

**inheritmylife** · 03-24-2004, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by El Diablo

That i plan on doing bro

Just remember, a little extra estrogen can be good in many ways on a cycle. But don't let it get out of hand. Have your BP checked. If its high, take care of it.

**inheritmylife** · 03-24-2004, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by monstercojones

yea run the ldex the entire time and you wont bloat up like the stay puff marshmellow man, whom i much prefer to the michelin imposter...

Your right.

That stay puff guy is one mean sob.

**El Diablo** · 03-24-2004, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by inheritmylife

Just remember, a little extra estrogen can be good in many ways on a cycle. But don't let it get out of hand. Have your BP checked. If its high, take care of it.

I have a nice lady doctor...She said she would monitor my body statistics and such while i'm on....hehehe

**fitnessNY** · 03-24-2004, 10:18 PM

I would drop the d-bol and deca -- run a test only for your first. That is what I am doing.

**El Diablo** · 03-25-2004, 09:52 AM

I thought about doing test only, but I'm wanting to add some good size as well...Would you still need an Anti-E even if you did test only/? ? Because I remember hearing somewhere that when your test level rises, your estrogen level does as well.