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Wk 1-6 Dianabol 30Mg Daily
Wk 1-19 Deca 300Mg
Wk 1-20 Enth 500Mg
Wk 22-24 Nolva 40Mg Daily
Wk 24-26 Nolva 20Mg Daily
Deca by British Dragon
Test enth By scheering
Dianabol By British Dragon
(Nolva on hand incase of Gyno Symtoms)
So what do you guys think???
(My 3rd cycle) :yellowcon
why not just run the nolva 10mg throughout, and what about clomid? other than that, cycle looks good, good luck bro
whats your previous cycle experience?? 20 wks is a long time, even for a 3rd cycle...id say deca for 19 wks is way too long, id substitute eq for it depending on goals..also id cut the dbol down to 4-5 weeks and up the dose to 35-40mg/ed...also have you only run nolva for PCT before?? may want to consider getting some clomid too...maybe something like this if youre gonna stick to 20 wks...Quote:
Originally Posted by THE PUMP
1-5 dbol 35mg/ed
1-20 test e 500mg/wk
1-9 deca 300-400mg/wk
10-20 eq 400mg/wk
id run nolva and clomid for PCT especially since its such a long cycle, might want to look itno HCG as well..
what do you mean what about clomid? nolva is virtually the same eccept with nolva the side effects are less and so is the acne. and for running the nolva right throught the cycle i find it a waste of nolva as im not vary gyno prone but if it pops up il hit the nolva at 40mg daily till it clears up.
I prefer the deca throughout actually, as this is a bulker.
I agree with Bartleby on the dbol dose and term.
If clomid is that hard on you, the Ndex is fine but I would add in some ldex as well.
The Ndex throughout is for keeping your blood pressure down, as well as preventing gyno.
You will need to fit some HCG or high dose Trib in there if you want to keep your testicles.
i personally wouldnt run deca for 19 weeks.. using any hcg?
first cycle wk 1-6 25mg dianabol wk 1-10 enth pct clomid
second cycle was
wk 1-6 dianabol 30mg
wk 1-9 deca 300
wk 1-10 enth 500
pct nolva
Again, you will need to take HCG or trib to prevent testicular atrophy.
Clomid is the superior SERM at stimulating LH as it's selective to the suprapituitary. Nolva is selective to bone, liver, and breast.
In every study I've seen showing Nolvas effect on HPTA as a benefit, the duration has been 3-12 months of administration, which is not applicable to our PCT needs. Studies I've seen with shorter durations of administration, nolvas effect was insignificant to LH stimulation, or an actuall decrease was seen. Clomid on the other hand, has a much faster reaction
Another thing of concern is that since higher doses and longer durations of Nolva are needed, you run into the possiblity of dramatic igf decreases. This has not been shown with clomid to my knowledge
another one by pheedno
I have hcg left over from my previous cycle so what way would you run the hcg if you were in my shoes? inheritmylife
Heres what i would do....
wks 1-5 Dbol 40mg/ed
wks 1-16 Test 500mg/wk
wks 1-14 Deca 400mg/wk
wk 14 HCG (500ius/ed for 20 days)
PCT Clomid/Nolva Combo
The HCG works well the way ski96 outlined.
Or if you want to use trib instead, 4grams monday/thursday weeks 12-16.
Thanks for the views guys much appreciated.