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    First cycle...Critiques?

    First one...Been reading for awhile...Any input is welcome..

    Dbol weeks 1-4 30mg ed

    Test enan weeks 1-10 500mg ew

    Deca weeks 1-10 300mg ew The test should allow me to keep sex drive. lol

    Nolva and clomid on hand as well. Suggestions?

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    I don't think you will have any problems growing like crazy with just test and dbol . It is also one set of side effects to deal with.

    I would SUGGEST dropping the deca for a later cycle. If you absolutely must run it, drop it back to week 9. Test en to week ten as is.

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    Also, test 250mgs on two days of the week, Monday and Thursday work well. I would also suggest running 10mg Ndex ed for at least the amount of time you are on dbol , the stuff aromatizes like mad.

    PCT: Clomid-300/100/50
    Nolva-20mgs till day 28

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    Thanks, I wasnt sure on the deca myself. Hoping to gain some good weight off of this...Anyone had experience with dbol and test enan together? And should I stick with nolva/clomid?

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    Thanks for the PCT info bro I was a bit confused on that , even after reading. Dbol does aromatize like no other from what i hear...I 've mainly been worried about its toxicity to the liver. :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo
    Thanks, I wasnt sure on the deca myself. Hoping to gain some good weight off of this...Anyone had experience with dbol and test enan together? And should I stick with nolva/clomid?
    A little Ldex at .25 mgs ed through week 28 of PCT wouldnt hurt.

    If you insist on the deca , B6 for sure.

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    definetly stick with nolva during cycle and clomid post cycle. How many cycles have you done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Consistency
    definetly stick with nolva during cycle and clomid post cycle. How many cycles have you done?
    First one bro...Nervous and excited as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo
    Thanks for the PCT info bro I was a bit confused on that , even after reading. Dbol does aromatize like no other from what i hear...I 've mainly been worried about its toxicity to the liver. :-/
    Its toxicity is one issue, at 30mgs and 4 weeks you'll be ok.
    As it aromatizes quite a bit, the bloat will cause high BP-very bad. That can damage your kidneys. That is more of a concern in my eyes sice most guys are smart enough to run it for short durations, but insist on walking around like the Micheline Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by inheritmylife
    Its toxicity is one issue, at 30mgs and 4 weeks you'll be ok.
    As it aromatizes quite a bit, the bloat will cause high BP-very bad. That can damage your kidneys. That is more of a concern in my eyes sice most guys are smart enough to run it for short durations, but insist on walking around like the Micheline Man

    That i plan on doing bro

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    yea run the ldex the entire time and you wont bloat up like the stay puff marshmellow man, whom i much prefer of the michelin imposter...

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    yea run the ldex the entire time and you wont bloat up like the stay puff marshmellow man, whom i much prefer to the michelin imposter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo
    That i plan on doing bro
    Just remember, a little extra estrogen can be good in many ways on a cycle. But don't let it get out of hand. Have your BP checked. If its high, take care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monstercojones
    yea run the ldex the entire time and you wont bloat up like the stay puff marshmellow man, whom i much prefer to the michelin imposter...
    Your right.

    That stay puff guy is one mean sob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inheritmylife
    Just remember, a little extra estrogen can be good in many ways on a cycle. But don't let it get out of hand. Have your BP checked. If its high, take care of it.
    I have a nice lady doctor...She said she would monitor my body statistics and such while i'm on....hehehe

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    I would drop the d-bol and deca -- run a test only for your first. That is what I am doing.

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    I thought about doing test only, but I'm wanting to add some good size as well...Would you still need an Anti-E even if you did test only/? ? Because I remember hearing somewhere that when your test level rises, your estrogen level does as well.

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    Yes, you would still need to run Ndex and/or Ldex.

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