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what would happen if i used deca preferably NPP along with winny for six weeks along with a caloric deficet, intense cardio training, and a thermogenic like t-rex? i figured how the **** can i gain any "deca fat" while im in negaitve caloric balance plus thermo's plus heavy cardio. i have lasix on hand should things get out of control with h20. i need constructive feedback

week 1-6
npp 100 mg e3d
winny 50 mg ed

week 6-12
anavar 40 ed

then standard pct..

For one thing it will shut you down....... another why would you use Deca if your trying to cut with var and winny, last where's the test?

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what would happen if i used deca preferably NPP along with winny for six weeks along with a caloric deficet, intense cardio training, and a thermogenic like t-rex? i figured how the **** can i gain any "deca fat" while im in negaitve caloric balance plus thermo's plus heavy cardio. i have lasix on hand should things get out of control with h20. i need constructive feedback


I'm not as experienced as MudMan, but I can see the fault....your endocrine balance will be "shut off" .... your sex life will be gone.... If you add some Test, you could try the caloric deficit, and the thermogenic (if it has a stimulant) may help you in cardio, but you're gonna be tired as hell. Why not try another proven combination?

I would drop the deca and go with prop. I love deca but it is not a cutter at all.

It depends on your age and your body type. I use deca with winny cause my body reacts differently when mixed with winny. I still use deca when cutting. It keeps my body hard and full. However, I also use 50mg winny every day when mixing. I would also condsider clen in that stack as well. Also, six weeks is not long enough. Try 8-10...good results

if you eat clean you shouldn't get any fat with deca anyways, ive used it numerous times with great results, heres something to think about though, im trying to do the same as you are essentially, and im in week 4 of tren enant 800mg/week, test cyp 800mg/week, 50mg dbol Ed, 1.5mg arimidex daily, and ive been doing cardio 3-5x weekly for 45-1hour each time, tell you sometihng...ive never been this solid, not sure if its clean diet (really clean), cardio, the tren, or the adex, nevertheless you might want to think about some of those things, good luck

test is not for me.. after 6 cycles with it im DONE.

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Originally Posted by georgie24

test is not for me.. after 6 cycles with it im DONE.

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Well, if you don't like TEST cycles, you sure won't like DECA cycles without test.

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Originally Posted by buylongterm

Well, if you don't like TEST cycles, you sure won't like DECA cycles.

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exactly...if you think their are no sides with DECA then your 100% wrong

im new to DECA not the GAME folks....

What issues did you have with TEST???

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Originally Posted by georgie24

im new to DECA not the GAME folks....

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I hear you bro. I think deca is a wonderful drug. Myself I would never do it without test. Years ago I did and thought I would never recover and lost almost all my gains. I never realy have problems with test until I come off and my blood levelsa get jacked.

i'm not knocking you-but, what exactly is it that you are trying to ask? youve put an incomplete "cutting" cycle up and threw deca in there?
i understand what youre saying with the diet and worried about putting on some bf with the deca- but the whole thing doesnt make much sense (at least to me)..
and why are you so against test- but so ready for deca?

6 runs with TEST 6 disapointing cycles TOO many sides...btw i used icn's so my gear was real...thats why i want to TRY deca. i never said i was hot-n-ready for deca

Decca without test is like cutting the board before you measure it

Doing a Deca cycle without TEST is like.......Going into a strip joint with no dollar bills.....

NOT SMART

Honestly, what sides did you get from Test?

This post is all over the place. There is absolutely no reason to use Lasix unless you are doing a show, and have a tremendous amount of experience.

dude,i ran deca at a moderate dose 360 mg week and no test once. big mistake here everything was going great untill post cycle then i lost nearly all my gains and could not get wood for over 4 months .run test with every cycle.

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Originally Posted by georgie24

test is not for me.. after 6 cycles with it im DONE.

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Dude....
Test is for YOU...whether you like it or not.
This may come as a shock to you, but you were born with it!
Cycle=Test+________
TSW

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Originally Posted by buylongterm

Doing a Deca cycle without TEST is like.......Going into a strip joint with no dollar bills.....

NOT SMART

Honestly, what sides did you get from Test?

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Woody's.....oh yeah, now that's bad side...