2nd Cycle Please Help-Critique

I am trying to plan my second cycle for later this summer. I am trying to decide between these two....

Test Enan 500 mg/wk 10 wks
Dbol 25-30 mg Weeks 1-4
Nolva ED 20 mg Wk 1-15
Clomid Wks 12-15- 300mg, 100, 50

or

Test Enan 500 mg/wk 12 wks (Do I need to take 250mg twice a week ?)
Deca 300 mg/wk 10 wks ( or EQ perhaps ?)
Dbol 25 mg Wk 1-4
Nlva ED Wk 1-17
Clomid Wk 15-17

My first cycle was last summer and it was Deca 400 mg 10 weeks and Dbol but I really wasnt a huge fan of the deca and its effects on sex etc.. However I am thinking that with the test it should be a lot different with less effects than before.

My goals are to put on some weight and size and TRY and keep most of my gains. However after this summer I will not be able to cycle for at least 2 more yrs down the line so I want to do a good one now.


My stats are..
21 yrs
5' 8"
162-65
BF(havent checked inawhile but usually 13-15%)
Protein 300-350 g/day
4500 cals
300-400 carbs

Like I said, just looking for some size and keep as much possible gains. Any help or pointers on these cycles or another one would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

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Originally Posted by KillaCam23

I am trying to plan my second cycle for later this summer. I am trying to decide between these two....

Test Enan 500 mg/wk 10 wks
Dbol 25-30 mg Weeks 1-4
Nolva ED 20 mg Wk 1-15
Clomid Wks 12-15- 300mg, 100, 50

or

Test Enan 500 mg/wk 12 wks (Do I need to take 250mg twice a week ?)
Deca 300 mg/wk 10 wks ( or EQ perhaps ?)
Dbol 25 mg Wk 1-4
Nlva ED Wk 1-17
Clomid Wk 15-17

My first cycle was last summer and it was Deca 400 mg 10 weeks and Dbol but I really wasnt a huge fan of the deca and its effects on sex etc.. However I am thinking that with the test it should be a lot different with less effects than before.

My goals are to put on some weight and size and TRY and keep most of my gains. However after this summer I will not be able to cycle for at least 2 more yrs down the line so I want to do a good one now.


My stats are..
21 yrs
5' 8"
162-65
BF(havent checked inawhile but usually 13-15%)
Protein 300-350 g/day
4500 cals
300-400 carbs

Like I said, just looking for some size and keep as much possible gains. Any help or pointers on these cycles or another one would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

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Well, the reason you weren't a fan of Deca because you should of never ran a DECA/DBOL cycle without TEST! Deca alone will shut you down big time!!! I'd run cycle #2, however unless you have issues with gyno, I'd say 10mg of Nolva should be fine. You can substitute the Deca for EQ, but make sure you run the EQ for 12 weeks...

i like the 1st one.....and the test should be 250mg on mondays and 250mg on thursdays...so yes twice a week

like cycle number 1 bro......run cycle 2 for your third

Oh yeah, I would injected 250mg of TEST 2 times a week instead of 1. It will keep your levels more consistent.

I like cycle #1 if you go 12wks with the test.

Hey! Appreciate the help. Just wondering though, would I be able to keep the same gains from the test only cycle as I would vs the test/deca cycle ?

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Originally Posted by KillaCam23

Hey! Appreciate the help. Just wondering though, would I be able to keep the same gains from the test only cycle as I would vs the test/deca cycle ?

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keeping your gains is dependent on how you run your pct.

I would go with the second cycle.. looks good.. but as buylongterm said, if you go with eq insted run it for atleast 12weeks! But deca it fine too.. now when you have some test added !

Good luck !