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    2nd Cycle

    Hey all, I am a new guy in the forums, and thought I would see what you all thought about my second cycle that I am starting a week from Monday. I have only done one cycle so far in my life, which was 250mgs of Test Cyp per week for 12 weeks. I had great results from that cycle, going from 180 lbs to a total of 212 lbs at end of cycle. Granted, there was some water retention there, and I have lost weight down to my current 205lbs. But overall I would say good results.

    My stats:
    -23 years old
    -6'6" tall, 205lbs
    -Would say about 12% bodyfat (not sure since it has been a while since I tested my bf%) I have a very high metabolism so it might be a bit lower.
    -Been working out for a good two years consistently and sporadically over the past 8 years.

    My sencond cycle:
    -500mg Test Enanthate (1-12)
    -75mg Tren EOD (7-14)

    I would greatly appreciate some feedback from some vets or other members if possible. I am still in the learning process in the whole AS scene. But I do have a great desire to learn and become educated on the subject. If there would be some differences that anyone sees that could work out better, please post a reply.

    EDIT: Forgot to mention, have Nolva for emergencies and clomid for PCT.

    Thanks in advance!!

    Kingkasino!
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    The test e is fine.Fina should be run ed at those doses to keep blood levels stable.By doing that,your sides will decrease significantly.Secondly,tren is harsh on HPTA,so it would be best to stop the fina two weeks before ending the test.Recovery will be much better IMO.

    I suggest for your second cycle:

    wk 1-13 test e 500mgs wkly
    wk 1-12 EQ 400mgs wkly

    Nolv @ 10 mgs ed through cycle and 20 mgs ed at pct.Also l-dex @ .25 mgs ed through cycle.

    Pct will start 2 wks after last test shot.
    Clomid 300mgs day 1,100mgs day 2-11,50 mgs days 12-21

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    Thanks for the reply. One thing that I guess I failed to mention was that the test and the tren are all I could really afford right now. I looked into possibly doing some EQ, like you suggested, but decided not to for two reasons. One, was that it is pretty expensive compared to tren (at least form my source), and secondly my source basically told me that I don't need the cutting abilities of EQ since I already am a very lean person. I don't have excess fat to burn off at all. And from what I have read a main reason people take EQ is because it helps decrease fat?? I may be totally off base here, and I apologize if I come across as ignorant, but that is just what I have read and been told.

    I will definately do some more research though about both the EQ and the Fina that you mentioned as well. My main problem atm is that I just have the test and tren to work with right now. If I were going to run those (and yes, I am aware of the sides), do you think that the cycle that I have set up would be decent? Or do you think that I should run the tren differently?

    Once again, thanks for the input!

    Kingkasino

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    Da Bull hit all nails on the head. I agree with him. However, if it's all you can swing at this time, then it looks good. I like the doses you started with. That kind of growth shows you are doing all else right. Good Luck!

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    Well,if this is what your going to run,I'll suggest this:

    Wk 1-12 500mgs test e wkly
    wk 2-10 tren 50 mgs ed,you can go 75 mgs ed,but up the test slightly to outweigh the tren.

    Run the same anti e's as I stated above,and pct a well.Add 200 mgs b-6 ed to this as well.

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    I think you should go with EQ or Deca , it is a little pricey,but the eq drives your appetite up which you seem to need. Tren is great, but it makes your hair fall out, and kills your sex drive. Post cycle look into some HCG too. Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by BastardBoyFloyd
    I think you should go with EQ or Deca , it is a little pricey,but the eq drives your appetite up which you seem to need. Tren is great, but it makes your hair fall out, and kills your sex drive. Post cycle look into some HCG too. Good luck
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    Bro,when I ran a prop/fina cycle,I was a human tripod!!!I kept my test higher than the fina and didn't loose a strand of hair either!!!

    So your saying everyone who uses fina is going to be a bald,limp dick mofo??I think NOT!!!

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    the eq drives your appetite up which you seem to need
    Appetite is not an issue with me actually. I eat roughly 6 meals a day. On my first cycle I ran with just test it jumped up even higher than that (obviously, lol). I seriously eat like a horse, and pretty clean too. It's just that my metabolism makes it so that I don't gain a lot of weight, no matter how much I eat . The only time in the last 4 years or so that I have gained a significant amount of weight was when I was on juice.

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    KK the tren and test is fine. EQ is a great AS though and in the future when your rollin in the dough id highly recommend throwin it in to your existing cycle. and i feel the tren will cut you up more then the EQ would IMO. i'm gonna repeat DB and tell you to run the tren ED and stop two weeks before you cut off the enth. and if i were you id spend the money on the Ldex before another AS. good luck bro. and LOOK at the different workout routines posted on here. you need a new routine! AD

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    and LOOK at the different workout routines posted on here. you need a new routine!
    Yeah yeah, I know. I have been thinking of starting Doggcrapps training method, but I honestly don't think I can hang with the diet that he reccomends, and from what I have read that is the way that DC training is really effective. Along with the extreme stretches.

    Anyway, I'm still doing most of the stuff that you showed me last time we were in the gym. So yeah....get with me and design me a new workout beeotch! Lol =p KK

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