Vote for your choice of cycle

Scenerio: 5'9", 180lbs, 8% Bodyfat
Want to gain mass, then lean up (don't know if I should do immediately after bulking or not, could use some help here to!!)

Cycle 1:
W1-W4: Test Prop/Cyp, Winstrol Depot 50mg/ml EOD
W5-W9: Test Eth, Winstrol Depot 50mg/ml EOD
W10-W16: Clenbuterol

Cycle 2:
W1-W4: Test Prop/Cyp
W5-W9: Test Eth, Winstrol Depot 50mg/ml EOD
W11-W12: Winstrol Depot, Clenbuterol
W13-W18: Clenbuterol

Cycle 3:
W1-W4: Test Prop/Cyp
W5-W9: Test Eth
W10-W16: Winstrol Depot, Clenbuterol
W16-W18: Clenbuterol

why are you changing up your Test esters ?

yea wth is that?

Using the prop to jump start and get into the system quickly. And have a 4 week supply of eth and cyp and since they are relatively the same just decided to go with that.

i hate #1 and #2 b/c your winny is EOD and needs to be ED....i probly hate #3 also b/c i have a feeling that its that way also, but you just sisnt list it...

why run cyp with winny anyways...run winny with a cutting cycle...prop/tren/winny....that would be nice

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Originally Posted by powerlifter

why are you changing up your Test esters ?

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oh yeah i dont like all of them again b/c of this...3 diff tests in one cycle...not needed

I noticed that in your stack you are using winny with your test suspension. Just wondering why you use with the suspension and then at the end of your cycle.

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Originally Posted by scrumhalf09

Using the prop to jump start and get into the system quickly. And have a 4 week supply of eth and cyp and since they are relatively the same just decided to go with that.

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Well you can jump start test enanthate too, like if you going to do 500 mg a week, 750 mg the first 2 weeks will have you feeling plenty of test early on. Its better to finish off with prop so that you diminish the low testosterone period in your PCT, otherwise it takes 2 to 3 weeks after last injection of t.e. to start running low on testosterone. Finishing off with like no more enanthate after week #7 and switch to prop, as soon as you are ready to quit you go quickly into PCT.

I dont even want to start on this one.

Start Reading.

If I had to pick between the three....I would say no thank you to all of them!!!

yea, those are all ****ty unthought out cycles....

personally dont like any of those stacks, try this ;

http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/search.php?

should be able to find all the answers you need there....

ft-

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Originally Posted by scrumhalf09

I noticed that in your stack you are using winny with your test suspension. Just wondering why you use with the suspension and then at the end of your cycle.

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well ive covered this before but ill do it again...

im useing the suspenision for 4 reasons...#1, never used it and want to try it, and experiement a little...#2 for the crazy strength gains...#3 because the gains are instant in a way, and i have an event coming up at the end of the month, and another in the middle of may and i wanna look good....#4, b/c i feel like i have done enough research and i can handle it, and the injections

Why front load with whinny??...3 reasons once again...#1 i want to experiment...#2, to help my look better for my events, and a little dryer b/c of all the test im useing...#3 b/c once again i feel i know what im doing, and i will be doing this on a "feel good basis"...and im useing all kinds of joint and liver supps...

does that help?