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    1st cycle Sustanon 250+Deca

    I'm planning to do my first cycle here in bali. it's all legal here so all good in the neighborhood.
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    1-8wk sustanon250 once a week
    1-8wk deca 200mg once a week
    plus nolva all the way and clomic after.
    and last 2wk hcg 2500UI once a week

    is it ok like this or am i f******
    thanx all for all the help

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    250mg sus/weekis a waste bro......need 750 really, but 500/2 shots week ok
    200mg deca is also a waste....need 400 at 10+weeks
    8 weeks not long enough
    hcg not needed here

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    assym correct me if im wrong he should run the sust 1 week longer than deca ....
    Last edited by widowmaker2; 03-31-2004 at 10:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fusion600
    assym correct me if im wrong he should run the sust 1 week longer than deca....hcg definately not needed here wait till your mid to late 30s....hcg can and will cause deformities in your cranium..your skull is not done growing until your early 30s
    hey bro.....actually sus and deca both clear in the same time(3 weeks).....it's a good idea to run test 2-3 weeks longer than deca just to aid in recovery
    think you are confusing hcg with hgh......hcg is to recover your testicles after a long cycle.....hgh is human growth hormone

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    I'd do 500mg of sus and 400mg of deca ....that would be best results...

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    Quote Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
    hey bro.....actually sus and deca both clear in the same time(3 weeks).....it's a good idea to run test 2-3 weeks longer than deca just to aid in recovery
    think you are confusing hcg with hgh......hcg is to recover your testicles after a long cycle.....hgh is human growth hormone
    oops hgh its late....i know what i meant..my bad

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    Asym is right. You need more sust and you need to run it longer to get the most from it. This looks like a first cycle, so.........why not use test e or cyp? Deca at 200 will be good for lubing your joints, but will not be a big bulker.

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    okey guys so i just make it 10weeks with susta500 and cut off deca last 3weeks.
    and is it okey hcg for 2 last weeks. and run nolva 10mg all the way. and add clomid after. thanx guys. hot in herre.

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    I ran a sust/deca cycle at 500mg/400mg for 11 weeks. I had great gains. you should be happy.

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    My first cycle was 250 sust and 200 deca and I grew 24 lbs. Although you aren't benefiting from the prop in sust shooting it that way, you will still grow very nicely if you are lifting and eating right.

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    yeah! listen to toolman, someone talking from experience!! its your first cycle you can always do more.

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    after all the hype about omna250/sust250 Im suprised you really want to do this as your first cycle. If I where smarter at first and didnt jump to conclusions, my firts cycle would have just been some Enan or prop. Just FYI

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    Weeks 1-10: Test Enanthate @ 250mg E4D
    Weeks 1-8: Deca @ 200mg E4D
    Nolva 10mg Ed
    L-Dex .5mg ED
    Tribulus 4 gm ED
    PCT

    TSW

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    Quote Originally Posted by H-Tizz
    yeah! listen to toolman, someone talking from experience!! its your first cycle you can always do more.
    250mg/week not enough.....don't care what anybody says

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    Quote Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
    250mg/week not enough.....don't care what anybody says
    People grow on 250 of sust...but is not optimal! There is no way to maintain cinsistant blood levels with one shot per week...it is impossible. E3D is not right either. The only way I see to run it at 500 is to preload and shoot EOD. Anything less is a mistake for your body.

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