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    My 1st Cycle

    33 | 5'9", 185lbs w/ extra body fat | Been lifting on and off for 14 years

    ok, i'm finally going to take my first cycle ever. i'm a little nervous about screwing it up. i'm also nervous about having my face get all bloated and having bad acne ensue to make it clear to everyone i know at work and elsewhere, that i'm on roids. can you guys please critique my cycle and give me your opinion on it? i want to gain as much muscle as possible on this cycle and then focus on cutting after it. i already have too much body fat (don't know %) and i know i'll get more on a bulking cycle w/ my a high calorie diet. here's my cycle:

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    Weeks 1-11: EQ - 400mg ew (200mg mon morning & thurs night)
    Weeks 1-10: Test E - 500mg ew (250mg mon morning & thurs night)
    Weeks 11: Test E - 300mg
    Weeks 12: Test E - 200mg
    Weeks 1-6: Anavar 20mg ed (split up throughout day)
    Weeks 11-17: Anavar 35mg ed (split up throughout day)
    Weeks 7-8, 11-12: Clen -150mcg ed w/ eca following each 2 wks of clen.

    Weeks 1-12: T3 - 25mcg ed (for extra protien synthesis)
    Weeks 11-12: Proviron 25mg ed
    Weeks 1-18: Nolva 20mg ed

    PCT:
    Weeks 14-17: Clomid (day one 300mgs, day two 200mgs, 100mgs for 10 days, then 50 mgs for another 10 days)

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    any help or suggestions for this cycle would be appreciated. a couple of my more pointed questions would be, 1) do you think that anavar is a good idea w/ this cycle? will it do me any good, or is it a waste and better served used another time? would it be a good idea to instead use it as a bridge between my 1st and 2nd cycle?

    2) what brand/country names would you buy for this gear? i think i read that the "qv" eq is good and the "galenika" test-e is good. true? and what about the anavar? 3) and finally, what guage needles should i buy? i was going to get 23 guage 1 inch. is that good for this gear and should i perhaps buy other size needles w/ this as well for different locations or is the 1 size sufficient? since i'm going to be shooting both eq and test-e at the same time 2x ew, can i mix the two into one syringe so that i'm puncturing my skin only 2x ew total?

    thank you so much for any help!!

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    no need to taper.....can't recover while on var, it suppresses the hpta too....
    take some time to research some more

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    that sounds like a pretty long, and high cycle to me for your first time, but thats just me. Plus if your worried about the sides and people "knowing your on roids" y dont you ease into it a little more; get to know your body first and find out how it reacts.

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    well, it was some of my research that made me think it was a good idea to taper the test. but i'll just abruptly stop it if it doesn't really matter. i was wondering if tribulus and zma might be good to add to the clomid in my pct to bring my natrual test back up as soon as possible.

    i'll just cut the anavar out completely. or maybe just the first 3 or so weeks before the test kicks in at 2 wks? again, maybe that's a waste.

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    I'm too tired to straighten that all out right now.
    Test must be most and last.
    Don't taper, the ester will do that by itself.
    AS1 is right, you can't recover on Var, and don't bother anyway at only 20mg, even 35 IMO.
    150mcg will almost surely be too much for you.
    For the money I would scratch the Var and go with Tren .
    Ahh Crap here:
    Weeks 1-10: Enanthate @ 250 ETD
    Weeks 1-12: EQ @ 200mg ETD
    Weeks 11-14: Prop @ 75mg ED
    Weeks 8-13: Tren @ 75mg ED
    Clen /ECA 2 on 2 off @ 120mcg.
    Weeks 13-14: HCG @ 500iu ED
    Throughout:
    Nolva @ 10mg ED
    L-Dex @ .25 ED
    Proviron @ 25mg ED
    Tribulus @ 4gm ED
    PCT:
    Nolva @ 20mg ED
    L-Dex @ .25 ED
    Tribulus @ 4gm ED
    Clomid:
    Day one: 300mg
    Days 2-14: 150mg
    Days 15-28: 100mg

    TSW

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    yeah, you guys are right. it looks like i'm going a little overboard here on my 1st cycle. ok, i'm going to completely cut out the anavar and the taper.

    Weeks 1-11: EQ - 400mg ew (200mg mon morning & thurs night)
    Weeks 1-12: Test E - 500mg ew (250mg mon morning & thurs night)
    Weeks 7-8, 11-12: Clen -150mcg ed w/ eca following each 2 wks of clen.

    Weeks 1-12: T3 - 25mcg ed (for extra protien synthesis)
    Weeks 11-12: Proviron 25mg ed
    Weeks 1-17: Nolva 20mg ed
    PCT

    let me ask you something though, why would 10mgs nolvadex ED along side 0.25 l-dex ED be better than just 20mgs of nolvadex ED?? i've seen that on a lot of other people's cycles and don't understand the difference. is it better, or just a personal preference?

    also, do you really think a cycle of 1 test w/ eq is really that bad for a 1st cycle? i've seen others for test and eq or deca . thanks guys.

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    LOL....I just noticed the "First Cycle" Title.
    Scratch absolutely everything I just said.
    First Cycle:
    Weeks 1-10 Test Enanthate @ 250mg E4D
    Nolva @ 10mg Ed
    L-Dex @ .5 ED
    Trib @ 4gm ED
    PCT
    TSW

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    thanks guys. okay, i'll take the i-dex w/ the nolva for face bloat. should i take the trib throughout cycle, or just on pct? i've seen both posted before.

    also, i am worried about taking just test alone because i'm worried about tendon and ligament demage that can occur when on test only. i have a bad rotator cuff from when i used to pitch in baseball over a decade ago. it gets hurt pretty bad when lifting heavy weight in military presses (not behind the neck), or working on my shoulder muscles in general. eq or deca (especially) would lubricate the joints and strengthen tendons/ligaments for the extra weight i'll be pushing while on test. but i'm prone to gyno and extra fat storage so i'd rather go w/ eq.

    but that's why i would really like to add eq to the test.

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    sounds like a nice cycle but too long and too much for a 1st cycle.take trib during pct.

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    take trib throughout cycle, throughout pct, throughout off-cycle too

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    like the sevnthwarrior says do a test only first cycle

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