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    ok ok i put in the time....please critique

    ok fellas...i postede a thread yesterday and i didnt get the info i was looking for...but i apprecaited the help very much....so i went and figured it all out on my own......my boy wants to run a cutting cycle ...so i figured i throw him T3, Clen , and Prop...this IS his first cycle so please see if the figures look ok.......and im not sure if he should run nolv throughout and or clomid for pct...i would assume yes on clomid and do reg 300,100,etc. for clo...as for the cycle here it is

    Weeks 1-10 100mg of prop eod
    weeks 2-9 T3 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7, 6, 5, 4.5, 4, 3.5, 3, 2.5, 2, 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0.5(#tabs 25mcg)
    weeks 1-10 Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 1,2,3,4,4,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,4,3(# of tabs, 20mcg)
    and then i guess regular clomid therapy

    please dont say diet and cardio 4-5 times a day.....i know that, as well as he knows that....thats why im askin to check the cycle....thank guys

    p.s. hes bout 5'11 280 21 years old
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    I think 50 mgs of Prop EOD is insufficient. And cardio 4-5 times a day is slightly excessive.

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    at 5'11" 280 I'm assuming a higher than average bf%, so I'd add Ldex too at .25mg/day plus the nolva at 10mg/day. The prop is too low to be worthwhile.

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    if so...prop will go to 75 or 100..i dont know what i was thinking there but what about the rest.....i just didnt want him doing too much considering it IS his first def apprecaite the help on prop.....but im more questionable on the t3 or clen .../nolv/pct...ive never worked with it(t3/clen) ...thats just waht i threw together from the educational post....but all help is welcome...
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    75mg/day for the prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    75mg/day for the prop.
    75-100mg/day

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    I'm not experienced in T-3,but 50 mgs of prop eod is going to do nothing for him!

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    yea i dont know what i was thinkin there.....ok prop is changed to 100mg eod

    Nolvadex , Clomid, T3, Clen ??

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    I'll be bold enough to say 150 mgs eod would be much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    I'll be bold enough to say 150 mgs eod would be much better.
    i concur. but i still hold to 75mg/day being the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    i concur. but i still hold to 75mg/day being the way to go.
    I agree bro,but if he doesn't want the ed shots,this is the next best thing IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by einstein1905
    at 5'11" 280 I'm assuming a higher than average bf%, so I'd add Ldex too at .25mg/day plus the nolva at 10mg/day. The prop is too low to be worthwhile.
    I didn't know I could quote myself
    Nolva and Ldex as stated. A guy with higher bf% needs to be more weary of aromatization. Clomid as you mentioned in your original post.

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    nolv AND ldex? or how about just femara? clomid is a go and ill run prop at 150 eod


    anyone wanna chime in on T3 or clen ?

    thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackt23
    nolv AND ldex? or how about just femara? clomid is a go and ill run prop at 150 eod


    anyone wanna chime in on T3 or clen ?

    thanks guys
    Yes, nolva and Ldex. Femara is a bit too rough on cholesterol levels, and I'm assuming your buddy is a guy that may not have ideal cholesterol levels already.
    I'd use ECA on the clen 2 week off periods

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    ok so heres what i got now:

    Weeks 1-10 150mg of prop eod
    weeks 2-9 T3 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7, 6, 5, 4.5, 4, 3.5, 3, 2.5, 2, 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0.5(#tabs 25mcg)
    weeks 1-10 Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 1,2,3,4,4,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,4,3(# of tabs, 20mcg)
    Nolvadex 17.5mg ed till pct then 35mg
    Arimidex .25mg ed
    Regular clomid therapy

    Hows that look now guys?
    Last edited by Jackt23; 04-03-2004 at 01:51 AM.

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    bump to look at updated cycle....thanks guys

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