Another First Cycle Proposal??...any help appreciated!!

Another First Cycle Proposal??...any help appreciated!!

Stats:
25yo
6'
221 lbs
15% bf
Training for 5 years naturally.

Looking for quality lean mass gains. Will be cutting/leaning out towards end of this cycle.....

Weeks 1-15 Test E 500mgs
Weeks 1-14 Eq 400mgs
Weeks 9-17 Var 40mg day
Weeks 14-15, 18-19 clen
Weeks 16-17 Thermorexin
Clomid starting day after last dose of Var, which will be 2 weeks after last test/eq shot. (Day 1-300, 2to7-150, 8to14-100, 14to21-50),

Nolva and L-dex on hand.

Milk Thistle and NAC for liver, Taurine for clen cramps, Creatine and Glutamine as usual throughout.....

Using 4 day split:
Mon: Chest/Front Delts
Tues: Back/Side Delts/Rear Delts
Wed: off
Thurs: Quads/Hams/Calves
Fri: Bi's/Tri's/Traps/Forearms
Sat: off
Sun: off
Cardio done on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. If needed, will add after that.


Any ideas, suggestions, tips, etc.....will be very usefaul and much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
stan66

Edited out my stupidity. lol
aka EQ stop point and clen dosings......

Drop the EQ back to wk 14,then your pct will match up.

yea drop the eq back, but other than that i would say thats a nice cycle. uh this is 1st huh? i like the dosage.

Thats right, forgot the 3 weeks lapse for it, had it in my head that is was 2 weeks :unsure: . Thanks, will do.



stan66

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Originally Posted by stan66

Another First Cycle Proposal??...any help appreciated!!

Stats:
25yo
6'
221 lbs
15% bf
Training for 5 years naturally.

Looking for quality lean mass gains. Will be cutting/leaning out towards end of this cycle.....

Weeks 1-15 Test E 500mgs
Weeks 1-15 Eq 400mgs
Weeks 9-17 Var 40mg day
Weeks 13-15, 17-19 clen
Weeks 15-17 Thermorexin
Clomid starting day after last dose of Var, which will be 2 weeks after last test/eq shot. (Day 1-300, 2to7-150, 8to14-100, 14to21-50),

Nolva and L-dex on hand.

Milk Thistle and NAC for liver, Taurine for clen cramps, Creatine and Glutamine as usual throughout.....

Using 4 day split:
Mon: Chest/Front Delts
Tues: Back/Side Delts/Rear Delts
Wed: off
Thurs: Quads/Hams/Calves
Fri: Bi's/Tri's/Traps/Forearms
Sat: off
Sun: off
Cardio done on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. If needed, will add after that.


Any ideas, suggestions, tips, etc.....will be very usefaul and much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
stan66

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well if you can workout after a quad ham day stop the ass and up the training go to failure do a warmup then 85 percent max
and go up in weight then go to warmup plus 25 percent and do reps burn go past

Yes, first one. I figure go big or go home. If I went too light on the doseages, I would end up kicking my own ass.....so I think they are pretty reasonable.

The var was actually an add in, wasn't really planning it, but found some cheap so in it goes!! lol

I can always change it to just Test/Eq and save the var if I really feel like it, we will see.


stan66

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Originally Posted by kmannnnnnn

well if you can workout after a quad ham day stop the ass and up the training go to failure do a warmup then 85 percent max
and go up in weight then go to warmup plus 25 percent and do reps burn go past

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If I can workout 4 small muscle groups that have no effect on my lower body, I should not be using and I should up my training???

That is ingenious, I think I will give that a try. Thanks for the tip. :rolleyes:
Oh, and punctuation is your friend!!! ;)


stan66

up the training

for legs legs should kill you
if not ask yourself why AINT i growing

Another thing, clen needs to be run 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. You wrote "Weeks 13-15, 17-19 clen", to me this says that you'll be on 3 weeks (13,14,15) off 1 (16) and back on for 3 more (17, 18, 19).

I'd run it:
weeks 13-14, 17-18

whats bodyweight and squat max 6 reps where you almost **** yourself
be real no ass will help if you dont push yourself!
what you think a medalist athlete said give me roids ill be the best no train and diet thats why its callled ass to help not to transform

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Originally Posted by kmannnnnnn

for legs legs should kill you
if not ask yourself why AINT i growing

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Dude, I am trying hard not to flame here, so please go find someone else to spout off this tripe to.....I have trained legs on my last training day of the week and also the split I have above and I have found it does not effect my upper body training if I stick to smaller muscle groups......so until you train with me and see how I workout and how much I "grow", keep the useless comments to yourself. Thanks!
:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by SV-1

Another thing, clen needs to be run 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. You wrote "Weeks 13-15, 17-19 clen", to me this says that you'll be on 3 weeks (13,14,15) off 1 (16) and back on for 3 more (17, 18, 19).

I'd run it:
weeks 13-14, 17-18

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That is what I meant, sorry. Just got home from work and everything is coming out of my head faster than I type. I know of the 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off and that was what I meant to write down. Thanks for pointing it out!!

stan66

sounds to me like 90 percent need to learn how to train , and the after 2 years takes time to build a base then go......................................but learn how to ****in train

you do legs on thurs and train again fri lmao come with me

im just trying to help

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Originally Posted by stan66

That is what I meant, sorry. Just got home from work and everything is coming out of my head faster than I type. I know of the 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off and that was what I meant to write down. Thanks for pointing it out!!

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Hey that's what I'm here for, just wish it wasn't a typo and I'd actually helped. :lol:

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Originally Posted by kmannnnnnn

sounds to me like 90 percent need to learn how to train , and the after 2 years takes time to build a base then go......................................but learn how to ****in train

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Last time I give in to temptation and attempt to address you like an adult....

I have trained naturally for 5 years and gone from 165 lbs at @ 12-13% bf to my current weight of 221 @ 15%.

Go away.
And please learn the art of communication via the internet.
Typing classes would work wonders for you to "attempt" to get your points across, rather than typing the equivalent of what a 3rd grader would.......

stan66

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Originally Posted by SV-1

Hey that's what I'm here for, just wish it wasn't a typo and I'd actually helped. :lol:

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No problemo. Hey at least you caught it before anyone else did....

/pats SV on the back...lol/

stan66

after legs you need to rest ...............dont you think at least that

hey im a two fingert typist whoaaaaaaaaaaaaa shoot me

so never shoot me down that way some of us can read what others say without making fun of them

and stan i was trying to help

Wait.........wait..........wait for it......

BAM, ignore list baby!!!

Amazing what technology can put at our fingertips, ain't it?? lol

This will be all I see from now on.....thank the lord.

"Remove user from ignore listkmannnnnnn
This message is hidden because kmannnnnnn is on your ignore list."

Thanks for playing. Anyone else, please feel free to critique and advise..... ;)


stan66



BTW, not trying to pick on you man. But different people train different ways. I have found something that works for me, whether you like it or not. I may not be able to do my cardio day on friday, but I will have no problem doing my smaller groups that day.
Leave it be for christs sake..... Thanks.

but you are too ****ing stunned to realise that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by kmannnnnnn

but you are too ****ing stunned to realise that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Look into "hooked on phonics"..I think it can help you.

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Originally Posted by kmannnnnnn

but you are too ****ing stunned to realise that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dam n bro you really like to hear yourself talk huh? Stan politely asked you to not post in his thread and you just keep on jabbering. Try acting like an adult and conduct yourself with a little bit of dignity.

hey i was angry before think of me now

Iam glad to see that iam not the only one this guy ticks off :hello:

Kmannnnnnn: Bro, I'm sure you are a very knowledgable person when it comes to training and utilizing aas; however, I think it is fairly well recognized that different methods work for different people. I think everyone should be open to switching up their routine but if not then who cares let them do what they feel is best it is after all theri body. Also you could make suggestions in a more friendly, helpful manner and it would likely not upset anyone. Bottom line bro, if you're not gonna help out with some good advice or ideas then lay off, and Stan has asked you to leave the thread so that would be the respectable thing to do. Peace bro, no hard feelings. JMO

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Originally Posted by Da Bull

Look into "hooked on phonics"..I think it can help you.

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:crash: :roflol: :gurupc: Now thats funny...

little heavy for a 1st cycle, resembles the cycle im currently on. love the choice of var though (and the mg dosage);)