Ok, so i gotta question that a newb might ask

**BWhitaker** · 04-02-2004, 07:42 PM

Enanthate and cyp take about 4 weeks to start having an effect. Now if one was to take 500mg a week for the first 4 weeks vs. taking 300mg a week for the first 4 weeks would it take longer for the 300mg to kick in???

ps--im not thinking about using that low of dosages, just curious to what the factor is that makes it take so long to kick in and if it is dose dependent

**Senior_FKG** · 04-02-2004, 07:48 PM

probably...because if u think about it, thats 800 more mg in four weeks...thats 2 and a half more injections with the 300 mg per week...so it will probably kick in maybe a week or so earlier.......but that is just me doin a little thinking

**barbarian** · 04-02-2004, 07:51 PM

i disagree, with that ester on there it takes a certian amount of time for it to build up enof for it to kick with any doesage IMO anyone else?

**blowout247** · 04-02-2004, 07:52 PM

Enan and Cyp start working right away, but they are absorbed over a two week period. What you are talking about is front loading; Say you want to run 500mg of test a week and don't want to wait a couple of weeks. so you would take the dose of a two week period (1000mg) and this will jump start you. after the first week, go back down to the 500mg

**Senior_FKG** · 04-02-2004, 08:00 PM

hey barbarian....PLEASE don't talk about easters or carbonyl groups or anything else involved with organic chemistry...i just had a sick organic chem test today...i can't take that **** anymore...lol

**Senior_FKG** · 04-02-2004, 08:01 PM

esters*

**BUYLONGTERM** · 04-02-2004, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by blowout247

Enan and Cyp start working right away, but they are absorbed over a two week period. What you are talking about is front loading; Say you want to run 500mg of test a week and don't want to wait a couple of weeks. so you would take the dose of a two week period (1000mg) and this will jump start you. after the first week, go back down to the 500mg

Actually they do not start working right away. For someone to start feeling Test Cyp or Enan, your looking at 4 weeks for it to kick in. Test Prop, on the other hand will kick in a lot quicker.

**einstein1905** · 04-02-2004, 09:17 PM

Both cyp and enanthate will begin to be released/deesterified right away.....the half lives just simply indicate the point at which 1/2 of the compound has been deesterified then degraded or bound. Test doesn't really "kick in". It simply builds up/ramps up to a plasma level at which the effects are more noticeably felt. Using a smaller dose will take longer to reach that same plasma threshold level.

**spywizard** · 04-02-2004, 09:17 PM

Thats' why you see guys with cycles like this

week 1-4 test prop
week 1-12 500mgtest enan or cyp

notice that you are injecting 2 types of test...

cool............... huh........

Originally Posted by buylongterm

Actually they do not start working right away. For someone to start feeling Test Cyp or Enan, your looking at 4 weeks for it to kick in. Test Prop, on the other hand will kick in a lot quicker.

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 04-04-2004, 12:54 AM

so... is injecting MORE test from the get go a good way to do it... ??? I want to see some mods opinions on it... if im running test E 500mg a week for 13 weeks... would I want to run 1000 a week for weeks 1-2 or even 3??? is this a safe practice? I would like to see quicker gains myself and not waste my weight gainer the first few weeks with minimal results... how about doing the same thing with Deca ? Thanks guys..

**einstein1905** · 04-04-2004, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by 100%NATURAL-theGH

so... is injecting MORE test from the get go a good way to do it... ??? I want to see some mods opinions on it... if im running test E 500mg a week for 13 weeks... would I want to run 1000 a week for weeks 1-2 or even 3??? is this a safe practice? I would like to see quicker gains myself and not waste my weight gainer the first few weeks with minimal results... how about doing the same thing with Deca? Thanks guys..

That's frontloading. It works to reach the target plasma levels quicker, but using prop the first few weeks of a cycle in addition to a longer estered test works even better. That's another reason an oral like Dbol will be run at the beginning of a cycle too.

**palequail** · 04-04-2004, 01:41 AM

I believe enanthate is 7 day ester and cyp is 8 day correct??

**Illusion of size** · 04-04-2004, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by einstein1905

That's frontloading. It works to reach the target plasma levels quicker, but using prop the first few weeks of a cycle in addition to a longer estered test works even better. That's another reason an oral like Dbol will be run at the beginning of a cycle too.

Agreed.
I don't know if loading Deca would do much good though. The half life is so long.