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I wanted to take everyone's advice and do test eth. for 12 weeks, but my source couldn't get it at a decent price, so I'm going with sust. This will be my first cycle I've been lifting for 2 years now.
My cycle will consist of:
Sustanon 250 Weeks 1 - 12 .75ccs e3ds
Nolvadex Weeks 1 - 12 10mgs. ed/20mgs. pct
Clomid Weeks 13-16 300/100/50ed
What do you guys think?
Thanks for everybodies input!!
rember one thing AS is only a part of BB.. sleep, don't drink, eat alot of food.. and you'll do good..
you might as well just do 500mg a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by rlslmshdy
To keep the waste down to a minimum (X amount of gear is lost btw the end of the plunger and the pin) I would get some oil to cut it with and run 125mg EOD.
I believe this would be your best bet on keeping Blood Levels at least somewhat stable.
Also Run Tribulus @ 4gm ED. Proviron may help as well if you can obtain it.
TSW
do not start pct at week 13.....start 3 weeks after last sus shotQuote:
Originally Posted by rlslmshdy
yes i would run it e3ds also, sounds like a good test only cycle,and if u look at half lifes of sust,itll tell u to run your pct 3 weeks after your last inject.good luck bro.
No, by the 3rd day the Propionate in the Sust is all but history, and the Iso isn't all that far behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sepjuice
Though it may be common, running Sust ETD will allow the Prop to take our Blood Levels for a ride.
TSW
so u would go with eod?
Im doing sus at 500mg a week. Started out the first two weeks at 250 but then listened to the bros on this board and upped the dosage. HUGE DIFFERENCE. Maybe go 9 or 10 weeks if you can doing more of it. just my advice
The closer the better for the Sust's sake.Quote:
Originally Posted by sepjuice
I do run Sust now and then just to break the monotany, however I do a strange little thing that usually gets laugh but works quite well.
I'll do a Sust shot ETD or EOD, with a Prop shot on the days in between the Sust shots to keep the Prop happy....Sounds funny, but it works very well.
TSW
very good idea....Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSevnthWarrior
I wouldn't use the Nolvadex until the last few weeks of the cycle, UNLESS you need it sooner and i'd also drop it down to 10mg per day. I think a lot of people put more chemicals into their bodies when it is not necessary. I find running the Nolva too soon, keeps the bloat down, but your increase in strength has a lot to do with that water!
your recommending he run no anti-e the first weeks of his cycle???Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevan
run the nolv all cycle throughout pct at 20mg's if that is your only anti-e
As usual, I agree with both Asym and TSW on their recommendations in this thread.
TSW, I like the idea of running prop on the odd days if you run sust E3D. I would even do that if you ran it EOD....but maybe I just like prop alot.
The first weeks of his cycle.. i'm not a big believer in running the Nolva unless you need it during your cycle !!Quote:
Originally Posted by asymmetrical1
nolv will not hinder gains....it also has many benefits other than estrogen blocking.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevan
A little excess estrogen can be a good thing. 10-20mg of NDex will not eliminate estrogen, he will still have enought to be beneficial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevan
I agree.. if you need it.. first few cycles I didn't, these days I need it to help keep my bp in check. Like you say it has benifites, but if I didn't need it for my bp, I wouldn't use it till the end of the cycle. Again just me.
Thats a very good idea, thanks for the info bro..Quote:
The closer the better for the Sust's sake.
I do run Sust now and then just to break the monotany, however I do a strange little thing that usually gets laugh but works quite well.
I'll do a Sust shot ETD or EOD, with a Prop shot on the days in between the Sust shots to keep the Prop happy....Sounds funny, but it works very well.
TSW
[QUOTE=TheSevnthWarrior]To keep the waste down to a minimum (X amount of gear is lost btw the end of the plunger and the pin) I would get some oil to cut it with and run 125mg EOD.
Could you explain more on cutting the sust with oil. Where would I get the sterile oil, from my source?
thanks bro!
Interesting flip on this thread regarding Sust, About 1 week ago and beyond everyone was doggin the use of it, what brand are you planning on running?rlslm
The brand is Karachi Sus, and Jelfa OmnadrenQuote:
Originally Posted by AnabolicRick