Advice for an 18-yr old

[BiLLMuscle]

I am a newbie to this forum and to as and would like to have a few questions answered.

I have been lifting since age 12 and am very knowledgable about the sport. Ive looked deeply into as and would like to hear a few opinions about roids and teens...I know teens may be more susceptible to using AS irresponsibly, ect. ect. but how bad would it be for me to use a moderate amount in my cycle and eat well? As far as growth is concerned im 6'2" , 175 lbs (usually weigh about 195 but did alot of cardio the last few months and havent been lifting hard), so stunting my growth isnt really worrying me. I was planning on maybe taking deca and sus250 or EQ, any suggestions on dosage amounts per week?
I plan on lifting hard this month and starting an 8on 8 off cycle in november.....

Please respond with your opinions,
Greatly appreciated...
Bill

[toolman]

First, congrats on all your hard work Bill. Keep it up!

You will not find many on here that will condone as use at 18. As you say you are not concerned with closing growth plates or stunted growth, that is just one of the dangers. The biggest issue is the fact that your endocrine system is still developing. There is alot of natural growth(not height only) still going on and introducing gear at that age will only screw it all up.

Be patient and wait a few years. You sound like you have a good head on your shoulderrs and not like most of the other teens that come in here and ignore the advice. Good luck and keep growing!

[BiLLMuscle]

First, congrats on all your hard work Bill. Keep it up!

You will not find many on here that will condone as use at 18. As you say you are not concerned with closing growth plates or stunted growth, that is just one of the dangers. The biggest issue is the fact that your endocrine system is still developing. There is alot of natural growth(not height only) still going on and introducing gear at that age will only screw it all up.

Be patient and wait a few years. You sound like you have a good head on your shoulderrs and not like most of the other teens that come in here and ignore the advice. Good luck and keep growing!

Yeah, that is understandable, do you think I could maybe use a test for maybe like 4-8 weeks just as a "boost" and then be done with it?

[Dude-Man]

Yeah, that is understandable, do you think I could maybe use a test for maybe like 4-8 weeks just as a "boost" and then be done with it?

They say that no one ever does just one cycle. I would suggest getting your diet in order first, see if you can get results. I did this and i had AS like results, 15 lbs in 2 months. Shoot for 200 + grams a day of protien.

[toolman]

Yeah, that is understandable, do you think I could maybe use a test for maybe like 4-8 weeks just as a "boost" and then be done with it?

I wouldn't because it will shut your hpta down. You do not want any of that shut down while you are still developing. Also, there are alot of us who said we would just run 1 cycle, which cant be done. You still have hormones raging in your body at 18 and you don't need the extra test like some of us old guys. Just lift, rest and eat and enjoy it naturally while you still can. There will be plenty of time later.

[jersey juice]

I agree with the bro's, wait and believe me you'll be happy you did!

[wimp]

just focus and eating right, resting and lifting hard. try different things to learn about your body. then in a few years you will be ready for as.

[BiLLMuscle]

just focus and eating right, resting and lifting hard. try different things to learn about your body. then in a few years you will be ready for as.

Thats my point exactly, Ive studied bodybuilding extensively for years and ive learned my body very well and can probably adjust through phases great(bulking, cutting)....My dad was also at one time a big bodybuilder and have been schooled by him for many years. Im not some kid whos not that strong looking for a miracle, I bench 300+lbs and squat in the 600s im just looking for something extra....If everyone is gonna say dont use roids how about Super one + (1testosterone gel formula). I got good results from that and would like to go to the next step......

[FrkyBgStok]

bro...unfortunately everyone who posted is right. The benefits are worth the damage. Imagine screwing yourself up for life. Low test when off, no sex drive, not being able to have a family, etc. You don't need a jump start on anyone so wait. Its just not worth it.

[Da Bull]

Eat-train & grow

[punk_bbuilder]

Its not what you want to hear bro but please reconsider use for a few more years. Trust me Keep building a solid base and allow the systems of your body to fully develop. Then you should consider AS use. you seem like a smart dude who knows a little something, just keep eating and if you want take some supplements but as mentioned before...a good diet can mimic AS gains in a young adult.

[juicedfreak]

Thats my point exactly, Ive studied bodybuilding extensively for years and ive learned my body very well and can probably adjust through phases great(bulking, cutting)....My dad was also at one time a big bodybuilder and have been schooled by him for many years. Im not some kid whos not that strong looking for a miracle, I bench 300+lbs and squat in the 600s im just looking for something extra....If everyone is gonna say dont use roids how about Super one + (1testosterone gel formula). I got good results from that and would like to go to the next step......

bullshit. at 6'2" and 195pounds you would be too lanky to handle those weights. fuck, 600pound squat with your height to weight? c'mon. bench 300+lbs? i'll bet you couldn't even do 1 rep without the spotter getting a good bicep workout.

this is the truth and you know it. no flame intended, just be honest with us when you post numbers.

[JohnnyB]

Bro 6'-2" 195lbs isn't very big. You can put on 40-50+lbs over the next 5-6 years.

JohnnyB

[50%Natural]

Are you kidding me? Under 200lbs and being 6'3. My roomate hears my shit all the time from me. Though you may have studied bodybuilding extensively this does not include steroids . We can all read the Arnold dictionary and learn a lot about lifting but this doesn't make us ready to juice. Being under 200lbs and squatting what you say is ridiculous so I guess extensively researching bodybuilding you have a huge chest and legs and no shoulders, back, arms, traps, or abs? Come on. Even though we are not face to face you can be for real. Just train naturally and gain it the way it was suppose to be gained and then decide if juice is what you need to do for your personal goals. Or just juice now. Whatever you want to do. We merely offer advice to a question you ask.

[DBfitness]

Being under 200lbs and squatting what you say is ridiculous so I guess extensively researching bodybuilding you have a huge chest and legs and no shoulders, back, arms, traps, or abs? Come on. Even though we are not face to face you can be for real. Just train naturally and gain it the way it was suppose to be gained and then decide if juice is what you need to do for your personal goals. Or just juice now. Whatever you want to do. We merely offer advice to a question you ask.

Hey it could happen. Im 6'8 150 Ibs and I bench 450 and squat 785 pretty easy

[JohnnyB]

Hey it could happen. Im 6'8 150 Ibs and I bench 450 and squat 785 pretty easy

Damn Bro your a bean post

JohnnyB

[Dude-Man]

No way those weights at 6'2 and 175. I'm not even close to that at 5'9 and 160.. which is proportionately more weight for my frame.

[BiLLMuscle]

No way those weights at 6'2 and 175. I'm not even close to that at 5'9 and 160.. which is proportionately more weight for my frame.

Sorry about they typo, i meant in the 500's not 600's...but that was my only type..Those were my one rep maxes and my body weight when i hit those was approx 180.,obviously some of you need to quit reading so much about lifting and start doin more lifting....My SOPHMORE year of high school I threw up 290 once....and that was at approx. 170lbs .....And i know numbers of top wrestlers in my state that are stronger than me at lower weight classes. Just because your lighter than me and u cant hit the weights im doin means shit, either hit the weights harder or start doin alot more injections because im 18 all natural and hittin that shit easy, ill let you know what im doin around winter if u feel that my stats are that amazing

[TheDfromGC]

Sorry about they typo, i meant in the 500's not 600's...but that was my only type..Those were my one rep maxes and my body weight when i hit those was approx 180.,obviously some of you need to quit reading so much about lifting and start doin more lifting....My SOPHMORE year of high school I threw up 290 once....and that was at approx. 170lbs .....And i know numbers of top wrestlers in my state that are stronger than me at lower weight classes. Just because your lighter than me and u cant hit the weights im doin means shit, either hit the weights harder or start doin alot more injections because im 18 all natural and hittin that shit easy, ill let you know what im doin around winter if u feel that my stats are that amazing

does anybody else get tired of these members with about 3 posts who have been on this site for an hour that come and talk shit to members/senior members who have been here for months and months or even years????

[Dude-Man]

Sorry about they typo, i meant in the 500's not 600's...but that was my only type..Those were my one rep maxes and my body weight when i hit those was approx 180.,obviously some of you need to quit reading so much about lifting and start doin more lifting....My SOPHMORE year of high school I threw up 290 once....and that was at approx. 170lbs .....And i know numbers of top wrestlers in my state that are stronger than me at lower weight classes. Just because your lighter than me and u cant hit the weights im doin means shit, either hit the weights harder or start doin alot more injections because im 18 all natural and hittin that shit easy, ill let you know what im doin around winter if u feel that my stats are that amazing

i'm not even going to bother. you show me one guy at 6'2 and 180 that can squat "in the 500's" cleanly meet legal and i'll swim in the charles river. ok, sue me, i bothered. thanks khull. what's his deal? compensating for something?

[HardcoreGymWARRIOR04]

Ill back up bill muscleman. i am 18 myself, been 18 for 1 week. i am 5'9 200 bench 315 and squat 450.

[HardcoreGymWARRIOR04]

hey khull khan guy, if thats u in that avatar, you have no right to critisize bill man's stats, you are tiny. shut up and lift!!!!!!!!

[joevette]

Oh, I believe he squats 500, half way down! And benches 300 with a nice bounce off his little chest.

[I'm in a Hurry!]

From an 18 to an other one... Today I was going to get some Finaplix Gold but hopefully people made up my mind... You do not need that already... Personnally I'm pretty sure you could get back to ur 195 and than consider all the chemical... and still will see then. For the rest you look like you already know what you're looking for so, I wont give advice on it

[Dude-Man]

Ill back up bill muscleman. i am 18 myself, been 18 for 1 week. i am 5'9 200 bench 315 and squat 450.

5'9 and 200 is much much bigger than 6'3 and 170, which this guy claimed to be.

[I'm in a Hurry!]

Hey it could happen. Im 6'8 150 Ibs and I bench 450 and squat 785 pretty easy

well dont know where you took your weight from but we aren't talking about machine and leg press or even SM! I doubt they're is one man in the world that even with all the better stuff could do 75% of what you're saying you do at ur weight. I'm 18 5'8'' weight 195 use to be 205 and there's no way I was close to 450 Becnh and 785 Squat! How much plate is there on that?!? If you're doing sort of machine or leg press as ur so called squat (you tell me you're going as low as you're suppose to) it may be possible... I do 1700pounds on the 45degres Leg Press but we aren't talking about the same thing!
Guys correct me if I'm wrong but how can someone 150pounds squat 523% of his own weight!

[BIGCDAWG]

whoa i was just ready through this and someone said a downside is not being able to have a family. that is crazy man, i knew it was possiblity but it will never be likely right? you need to juice for days before that right?

[Jackman]

y on earth did you guys bump up a 4 month thread.

[50%Natural]

no ****, why the old ass threads...this is getting quite annoying

[50%Natural]

well dont know where you took your weight from but we aren't talking about machine and leg press or even SM! I doubt they're is one man in the world that even with all the better stuff could do 75% of what you're saying you do at ur weight. I'm 18 5'8'' weight 195 use to be 205 and there's no way I was close to 450 Becnh and 785 Squat! How much plate is there on that?!? If you're doing sort of machine or leg press as ur so called squat (you tell me you're going as low as you're suppose to) it may be possible... I do 1700pounds on the 45degres Leg Press but we aren't talking about the same thing!
Guys correct me if I'm wrong but how can someone 150pounds squat 523% of his own weight!

wow, how can or why did you even take that literally? either that is one hell of an april's fools joke or you don't have a sense of humor at all

[Jackman]

hey khull khan guy, if thats u in that avatar, you have no right to critisize bill man's stats, you are tiny. shut up and lift!!!!!!!!

He didnt not even say a word about his stats...................... silly nubies

[BigBull13]

I agree with the bro's, wait and believe me you'll be happy you did!

I agree!

[Jackman]

the guy posted this 4 months ago! stop bumping it up hes not going to read it!

[TheDfromGC]

hey khull khan guy, if thats u in that avatar, you have no right to critisize bill man's stats, you are tiny. shut up and lift!!!!!!!!

case u didnt notice, i didnt say a thing about his stats, go back and read u dumbfúck. wish there was a we could filter out dumbass kids like this one.....btw hardcore im done on this thread, dont waste ur time responding back, just shut up and lift!!!!!

[Kingkasino]

I nominate Khull as the overall arcade grand master.

KK

[jag2345]

Man listen to these guys they aree here to help..Give it a few more years