Anabolics
Search More Than 6,000,000 Posts
Results 1 to 20 of 20
  1. #1
    en1222's Avatar
    en1222 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    918

    Running Proviron.........

    Is there anyone who ran proviron with test and still got gyno?

    Will proviron help reduce bloat?

    the test i will be running will be test Prop 100mg/ed

    I am prone to gyno that is why i am asking.

  2. #2
    lxorl's Avatar
    lxorl is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    FLORIDA
    Posts
    290
    get a better anti E than proviron . nolva. arimidex , letrozol.

  3. #3
    TRE's Avatar
    TRE
    TRE is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    OC
    Posts
    2,523
    Proviron is a very strong and good anti-e but its on the expensive site. Most now use liquidex for the price.

  4. #4
    en1222's Avatar
    en1222 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    918
    I got access to all three. I hear ldex raises your bad cholesterol levels.
    I was going to run novla as soon as I stop the Test and Proviron .

    no good?

  5. #5
    en1222's Avatar
    en1222 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    918
    Quote Originally Posted by TRE
    Proviron is a very strong and good anti-e but its on the expensive site. Most now use liquidex for the price.

    Do u recommend running proviron and Noval together?

  6. #6
    TRE's Avatar
    TRE
    TRE is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    OC
    Posts
    2,523
    Its a great combo and I myself have never shown signs of gyno. I would suggest it.

  7. #7
    en1222's Avatar
    en1222 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    918
    I hear ldex raises your bad cholesterol levels.


    Does anyone know if this is true?

  8. #8
    NorCaLifter's Avatar
    NorCaLifter is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Central Valley, California
    Posts
    186
    Bro i like proviron ... i ran it with test prop and had great mass gains and still remained lean and vascular. Proviron will help gyno from setting in... goodluck

  9. #9
    panabolic's Avatar
    panabolic is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    in the jungle
    Posts
    251
    Not to mention, test + proviron = horndog!

  10. #10
    Kevan's Avatar
    Kevan is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Posts
    220
    yes be prepared to be extremely horny, but Proviron is better than Nolvadex and the other stuff. I read an artical somewhere that says proviron does not just 'mask' like the others, but stops estrogen! I use it all the time, makes you hard, keeps bloat down and makes you hornier than you ever imagined.

  11. #11
    ty1681's Avatar
    ty1681 is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    TEXAS
    Posts
    185
    proviron is great to combine with nolva...
    just becarefull when the wind blows cuz
    your D#%^ will follow the air./..... ----------->

  12. #12
    Froggy's Avatar
    Froggy is offline Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    In the Fog with birddog
    Posts
    725
    If you are prone to gyno, and taking Test, you better have a good supply of nolvadex on hand and it would be a very good idea to use arimidex also. Letrozol is strong stuff that could be used instead of arimidex BUT, letrozol needs to be started before your cycle AND I've read that nolvadex @ 20mg ED will reduce your letrozol levels by up to 30%. That will put you in a bad situation if your chest blows up and one anti-e, now at 80mg ED is reducing the effectiveness of another anti-e.

  13. #13
    Froggy's Avatar
    Froggy is offline Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    In the Fog with birddog
    Posts
    725
    Sorry Bro, you asked about proviron . Yes, proviron is worth using & it will help with bloat. If gyno prone, and using test, IMO don't use it as your only anti-e. Provirons anti-e abilities are more like a positive side effect. Its possible proviron acts by increasing test affinity for the AR while decreasing test conversion to estrogen. AND that helps your other anti-e's work better, ya like less work with a pay increase. IMO, nolva & arimidex would be best for test, but nolva & proviron ain't bad.

  14. #14
    HollywoodM3's Avatar
    HollywoodM3 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    in the GYM
    Posts
    882
    Bro,
    I am using test eth tren and prop, I am using 25mg provion and 20mg nolva, I had to bump the nolva to 40mg b/c of gyno, I only used the provion at 25mg b/c with the prop my sex drive was going crazy...if I go up to 50mg I cant leave the house..lol..I would do anything that walked in front of me...but yes its a great combo

    good luck
    HM

  15. #15
    en1222's Avatar
    en1222 is offline Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    918
    I think i am going to run 20mg Novl & 50mg proviron ED and see how that works.

    Thanks for the replies

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    3,145
    Quote Originally Posted by en1222
    I hear ldex raises your bad cholesterol levels.


    Does anyone know if this is true?
    It has the potential to lower good cholesterol, but using nolva along with it can restore those levels.

  17. #17
    MilitiaGuy's Avatar
    MilitiaGuy is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Middle-East Lebanon
    Posts
    4,328
    well i run nolva @10mg ed and proviron 50mg ed and i am fine

  18. #18
    mista_liar's Avatar
    mista_liar is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Neverneverland
    Posts
    193
    Quote Originally Posted by Froggy
    Sorry Bro, you asked about proviron. Yes, proviron is worth using & it will help with bloat. If gyno prone, and using test, IMO don't use it as your only anti-e. Provirons anti-e abilities are more like a positive side effect. Its possible proviron acts by increasing test affinity for the AR while decreasing test conversion to estrogen. AND that helps your other anti-e's work better, ya like less work with a pay increase. IMO, nolva & arimidex would be best for test, but nolva & proviron ain't bad.

    Would running nolva10mg, prov25mg and arim be a waste or overkill?

  19. #19
    TheMudMan's Avatar
    TheMudMan is offline Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Posts
    10,724
    Quote Originally Posted by mista_liar
    Would running nolva10mg, prov25mg and arim be a waste or overkill?
    You should start your own threads.

    Edit******* didn't see the arimidex .

    I would run either the Proviron or L-dex along with 10mg of Nolva.

  20. #20
    mista_liar's Avatar
    mista_liar is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Neverneverland
    Posts
    193
    Thks. I'm fairly new at this but I would agree from what I've researched. From everything I've read, much of this debate seems to be centered on this: Whether or not you need *some estrogen in your body as a male during a cycle.

    Pls correct me if I mis-summarize:

    Nolva
    Pros: prevents estrogen from binding due to it's targeting of the estrogen sites itself
    Cons: Estrogen levels now become really high, which could cause an episode with gyno once Nolva adminstration discontiues. Nolva would then need to be run PCT, making it more expensive during a cycle.

    Proviron
    Pros: prevents test conversion in the first place due to its affinity with the aromatase enzyme testosterone needs to actually convert to estrogen
    Cons: its can be suppresive in nature to natural testosterone production since it does do much of what 'normal' levels of test do for our body; decreased libido upon discontinuation during recovery

    So based on above, if we believe *some amount of estrogen is needed, why would you need to run Nolva unless you are running a really heavy gyno-prone cycle or are especially sensitive to gyno?

    Proviron seems like the logical choice with a small dosage of armi or ldex for water retention and so forth.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •