what do you all think of this new cycle? Im lookin to get a litttle more lean
Anavar 35mg ED - 8 weeks
Winstrol 50mg ED - 8 weeks
Nolvadex 10mg ED - 8 weeks
PCT:
Nolvadex 40mg ED - 3 weeks
Clomid 50mg ED - 3 weeks
5'10
AGE 21
190
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what do you all think of this new cycle? Im lookin to get a litttle more lean
Anavar 35mg ED - 8 weeks
Winstrol 50mg ED - 8 weeks
Nolvadex 10mg ED - 8 weeks
PCT:
Nolvadex 40mg ED - 3 weeks
Clomid 50mg ED - 3 weeks
5'10
AGE 21
190
bye bye liver.
You need test, anaver no more then 4 weeks + equal time off of orals
winny no more then 6 weeks + equal time off orals
whats the most effictive oral cycle t hen for me? what would u recommend?
There are no good oral only cycles, you need to have test in your cycle which is only made in injectable form.
so if u didnt wanna use needles waht would you do? forget about lookin at AAS?
Needles arent as bad as you think. You'll be nervous about the first few and you'll get used to them. I won't be the first to tell you that. If your serious about getting big/cut, look into injectables.
AAS is an injectable thing so yes if you cant make the plunge into needles your better off sticking to suplements.
Ok But What Do You Think About The Cycle I Posted?
Your liver will sustain a great deal of damage from the proposed cycle. The anavar is a great starter in a normal cycle to help get strenght gains and lean mass. The winny is great for the end to help solidify your muscles. The winny however will dry out your joints and most likely create pain associated with arthritis.
how would you alter it so it will do no damage to your liver
Look...I don't like that cycle one bit!!But I know a member of this board that runs winny only cycles often.He runs them for 6 wks and like them alot. I don't agree with it,but it works for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjf190
yo da bull- talk to me about orals.......if you had to use only orals what would you use?
get over the oral cycles and inject. winny will barely put any mass on you by itself and if you care to do a little homework you will realize why no one on this board and most likelly any other board like oral only cycles.
How old are you by the way
im 21 and a newbie, i have been lifting hard for 3 years and startin to get frustrated.
stats 5'9 190 bf arounf 19%
You should really drop your body fat to around 15% before you start anyways. 19% isn't bad but not good either. I know injecting sounds dirty at first and you might be afraid of needles but you need to get over that or you really shouldn't do AS.
no test no cycle...simply stated again
Well,if they took every injectable off the face of the earth and left only orals.I would go natural,just because I know better!Quote:
Originally Posted by rjf190
what do you mean you know better? orals are that bad?
That makes no sense at all.. Both var and winny will give keepable gains, although not huge by any means. Injectables are the way to go, but saying var and winny together wont give anything is bull****. By the way, thats a total of 85mg of orals a day... it's not going to kill his liver.
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Originally Posted by Da Bull
That would be my choice to go natural........never said a word about keepable gains or anything else for that matter!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bdtr
8 weeks of 85mg ed wouldn't be vary nice to do too yourself either though. Hell I know idiots that do 100mg of dbol and there not dead, I know people that drink like a fish 6 days a week on deca, dbol, and winny. All I'm saying is thats not the right place to go for the long hall.
Injectables are much "healthier" and certainly better, in general, for most all intents and purposes. At 19%bf, you won't even really be able to appreciate what little gains you'd get from that cycle. Needles are only scary until you've injected yourself.
Like me?
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Originally Posted by TRE
well your a whole nother story BDTR I have always thought you were a little on the whacky site, just kidding. The people i know do it all of a sudden when they see me and some of our other friends so big and want a quick get big solution. I actually miss seeing your post all the time BDTR they always were full on info that a lot of other people dont know about.
I love watching the needle go in every time I shoot. :dg:Quote:
Originally Posted by rjf190
Look you Mary...just suck it up and go with an injectable test only first cycle. If you don't have the balls to stick yourself, stay natural.
In honesty we were all nervous the first time. But by the second or 3rd shot...your looking forward to it. Besides nothing beats the rush of succeeding at sticking yourself the 1st time.
BAD! Bad juicer....go lay down!Quote:
Originally Posted by rjf190
Here's a good stack, I always feel better when I do one;Quote:
Originally Posted by rjf190
Alprazolam @ 2.0mg
Carisoprodol @ 700mg
Diazapham @ 20mg
Hydrocodone @ 100mg
This Cycle right here, with or with out everclear, WILL make you 10 ft. tall and bullet proof.... ;)
TSW
I ran that cycle when i got divorced a couple years ago.
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Originally Posted by TheSevnthWarrior
Great orals(loritab,percocet,oxycontin) haha. No, really bro if you're serious about lifting and want to do it right quit being a puss and do a 12 wk test cycle.
Needles are great. Most of us are addicted to needles now , lol...I remember that one thread about the guy who just loves every day injections and how he does a dance after he shoots himself......
i probably wouldnt go to that extent,but everyone i ever met that tried injectables didnt mind it too much after there first one...Quote:
Originally Posted by BuffGuy
i'd say up the diazepham a bit and replace the hydrocodone with some demerol...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSevnthWarrior
I totally disagree. IMO you can run var for at least 8 weeks. Sh*t I may do 10 on this cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by TRE
only 3 years natural training and you cant gain anything? Also your afraid of injectables? 21 is kind of young for AS usage. Maybe your not training hard enough or your diet and nutrition is way off? I would look at my diet and traing habits and if necessary revamp them because you sound like your just not ready. And if your hell bent on using AS anyway, take everyones advise and use an injectable testosterone, it doesnt hurt unless your just a complete puss. Its not nasty or unsanitary either, just wipe the injection spot with an alchohol swap. im sure you will find everything you need under the spot injection section of the main Anabolic Review web site.
add in alcohol and accutane and you got quite a liver killer cycle. why is anyone so scared of injection???? it is so easy up the ass???
the thought of injecting man......i dont know
hey after the first you will fall in love with injecting yourself. it becomes a art. you will think how you lived without it.
**** i guess you are right................which Test is the longest acting
i might start a test only 1st cycle.........which test is injected the least
test enantate and liquadex and you will look sick with winny and anavar. don't ever go over 6 weeks with orals! you can damage your liver badly!