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    Red face 8 week cycle Tren and Test Cyp

    Im want to use the products I have for a 8 week cycle
    here is what I have! (Test Cyp), (Tren /Fina), (Winstrol Tabs), (Clomid), (Nolvadex ).

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    weeks 1-8: Test Cyp - 200mg twice a week
    weeks 1-8: Tren - 75mg ED
    weeks 5-10: Winny (how many mg?)
    Where do I need to start the Clomid?
    Do I throw in the Novadex in the cycle or only if I see signs of gyno?

    Thanks for any info bros

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    You should run the test higher than the tren . Start with 50mg of winny. Start then clomid 2 weeks after the last shot of test. I'd do nolva the whole way through at 10-20mgs.

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    I have ran Tren /Fina only and it shut down my nuts big time with the tset cyp this shouldnt be a problem right?

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    Tren is supposed to shut your HPTA down really hard. Testosterone will help with that. I agree with Joevette though, you should run more test than tren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsmihula
    I have ran Tren/Fina only and it shut down my nuts big time with the tset cyp this shouldnt be a problem right?
    Hell nah!! It should make it worse. Test makes the balls shrink as well. THe only reason ppl recommend it w/ Tren is because it provides MUCH better gains and keeps you from getting "Tren DIck."

    You must run HCG with this cycle if you have problems w/ shrinkage!!!

    ANd yes def. do more test then Tren

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    (This is if your set on using tren at 75 otherwise use 50 of Tren and 500mg of Test)

    wk1-12Test-600mgs 2x Week (FRONTLOAD AT 1200mgs FOR THE 1ST WEEK. Do not think this is too high of a dosage. Your just raising your blood lvels faster this way which means faster gains. You know how ppl say it takes a few weeks for them to feel the Test kick in?? Doing this avoids the "kick in" time)
    wk1-8Tren-75mgs ED
    wk6-12Winny-????
    wk1-14HCG-500ius 2x wk

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    i think you should run eithe tren or winny bacuse you get very similar results from it. Tren is a step up from winny also.

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    I'm doing a tren cycle aswell but instead of test I'm running sust at 500mgs with deca at 400mgs. Is this enought sust?

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    Couple things.

    The test needs to be run 2 weeks longer then the tren to help ease your pct. So run the test to week 10.
    Run the winny at 50mg ed weeks 7-12 and start pct the day after the last shot or tab of winny.
    Since you are running tren it would be a good idea to use test prop and combine the two in a singe shot ed. Use 75-100 mg of prop ed. If you do decide to run prop wun it all the way to week 12 with the winny.

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    You should run the test longer because of the long ester you should run it no less than 10 weeks........ Also, instead of Winny I would use Var but winny will do and allow you to run gear up to PCT.

    weeks 1-10: Test Cyp - 150mg E3D
    weeks 1-8: Tren - 75mg ED
    weeks 8-13: Winny 50mg ED
    weeks 1-13: Nolva 10mg ED
    weeks 1-13: L-dex .25mg ED
    weeks 1-13: B6 200mf ED

    Start PCT 1 day after your last winny injection:
    Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6
    Day 2 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6
    Day 31 - 37 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex / 200mg B6
    Last edited by TheMudMan; 04-10-2004 at 05:48 PM.

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    i dont agree with the frontload of 1200mg all youll do is get the sides from it and youll get the same results with 500mg front load.sides wont be as bad.

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    Who said anything about frontloading, unless your looking at my cycle

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    brown bomber was talking about frontloading 1200mg if iwasnt mistakin lets look again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harleyman
    i dont agree with the frontload of 1200mg all youll do is get the sides from it and youll get the same results with 500mg front load.sides wont be as bad.
    Same results from 500mgs of Test compared to 1200mgs!!! Ill have to disagree.

    I have always frontloaded my cycles when using longer acting esters and the only side effect I got was faster results. If you dont want this, then dont do it.

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    i tried it once with 1200 front load compared to 500 ididnt see any difference except my sides were higher but everybody's body is different and reacts differently to differen things so you just have to experiment and find out what works for that person .

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    This is my cycle:Wk 1-12 test prop/sust 500mgs wkly
    Wk 1-11 Deca 400mgs weekly
    Wk 3-10 fina 75 mgs ed
    Wk10-15 winny 50 mgs ed
    Should I stop mixing the test with the sust and start shooting the test every day but keep doing the sust once a week.

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