Thread: new oral cycle
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04-09-2004, 04:27 PM #1Associate Member
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04-09-2004, 04:34 PM #2
bye bye liver.
You need test, anaver no more then 4 weeks + equal time off of orals
winny no more then 6 weeks + equal time off orals
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04-09-2004, 04:36 PM #3Associate Member
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whats the most effictive oral cycle t hen for me? what would u recommend?
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04-09-2004, 04:39 PM #4
There are no good oral only cycles, you need to have test in your cycle which is only made in injectable form.
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04-09-2004, 04:41 PM #5Associate Member
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so if u didnt wanna use needles waht would you do? forget about lookin at AAS?
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04-09-2004, 04:47 PM #6
Needles arent as bad as you think. You'll be nervous about the first few and you'll get used to them. I won't be the first to tell you that. If your serious about getting big/cut, look into injectables.
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04-09-2004, 04:59 PM #7
AAS is an injectable thing so yes if you cant make the plunge into needles your better off sticking to suplements.
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04-09-2004, 05:01 PM #8Associate Member
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Ok But What Do You Think About The Cycle I Posted?
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04-09-2004, 05:05 PM #9
Your liver will sustain a great deal of damage from the proposed cycle. The anavar is a great starter in a normal cycle to help get strenght gains and lean mass. The winny is great for the end to help solidify your muscles. The winny however will dry out your joints and most likely create pain associated with arthritis.
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04-09-2004, 05:06 PM #10Associate Member
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how would you alter it so it will do no damage to your liver
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04-09-2004, 05:08 PM #11Originally Posted by rjf190
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04-09-2004, 05:11 PM #12Associate Member
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yo da bull- talk to me about orals.......if you had to use only orals what would you use?
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04-09-2004, 05:13 PM #13
get over the oral cycles and inject. winny will barely put any mass on you by itself and if you care to do a little homework you will realize why no one on this board and most likelly any other board like oral only cycles.
How old are you by the way
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04-09-2004, 05:16 PM #14Associate Member
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im 21 and a newbie, i have been lifting hard for 3 years and startin to get frustrated.
stats 5'9 190 bf arounf 19%
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04-09-2004, 05:18 PM #15
You should really drop your body fat to around 15% before you start anyways. 19% isn't bad but not good either. I know injecting sounds dirty at first and you might be afraid of needles but you need to get over that or you really shouldn't do AS.
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04-09-2004, 05:19 PM #16
no test no cycle...simply stated again
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04-09-2004, 05:23 PM #17Originally Posted by rjf190
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04-09-2004, 05:24 PM #18Associate Member
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what do you mean you know better? orals are that bad?
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04-09-2004, 05:26 PM #19
That makes no sense at all.. Both var and winny will give keepable gains, although not huge by any means. Injectables are the way to go, but saying var and winny together wont give anything is bull****. By the way, thats a total of 85mg of orals a day... it's not going to kill his liver.
Originally Posted by Da Bull
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04-09-2004, 05:28 PM #20Originally Posted by bdtr
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04-09-2004, 05:38 PM #21
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04-09-2004, 05:47 PM #22
Injectables are much "healthier" and certainly better, in general, for most all intents and purposes. At 19%bf, you won't even really be able to appreciate what little gains you'd get from that cycle. Needles are only scary until you've injected yourself.
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04-09-2004, 06:17 PM #23
Like me?
Originally Posted by TRE
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04-09-2004, 06:22 PM #24
well your a whole nother story BDTR I have always thought you were a little on the whacky site, just kidding. The people i know do it all of a sudden when they see me and some of our other friends so big and want a quick get big solution. I actually miss seeing your post all the time BDTR they always were full on info that a lot of other people dont know about.
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04-09-2004, 06:38 PM #25Originally Posted by rjf190
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04-09-2004, 08:37 PM #26Banned
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Look you Mary...just suck it up and go with an injectable test only first cycle. If you don't have the balls to stick yourself, stay natural.
In honesty we were all nervous the first time. But by the second or 3rd shot...your looking forward to it. Besides nothing beats the rush of succeeding at sticking yourself the 1st time.
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04-09-2004, 08:39 PM #27Originally Posted by rjf190
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04-09-2004, 08:45 PM #28Originally Posted by rjf190
Alprazolam @ 2.0mg
Carisoprodol @ 700mg
Diazapham @ 20mg
Hydrocodone @ 100mg
This Cycle right here, with or with out everclear, WILL make you 10 ft. tall and bullet proof....
TSW
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04-09-2004, 09:15 PM #29
I ran that cycle when i got divorced a couple years ago.
Originally Posted by TheSevnthWarrior
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04-10-2004, 02:34 AM #30Junior Member
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Great orals(loritab,percocet,oxycontin) haha. No, really bro if you're serious about lifting and want to do it right quit being a puss and do a 12 wk test cycle.
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04-10-2004, 03:10 AM #31Associate Member
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Needles are great. Most of us are addicted to needles now , lol...I remember that one thread about the guy who just loves every day injections and how he does a dance after he shoots himself......
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04-10-2004, 03:30 AM #32Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by BuffGuy
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04-10-2004, 08:06 PM #33Originally Posted by TheSevnthWarrior
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04-10-2004, 08:10 PM #34Originally Posted by TRE
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04-10-2004, 08:43 PM #35
only 3 years natural training and you cant gain anything? Also your afraid of injectables? 21 is kind of young for AS usage. Maybe your not training hard enough or your diet and nutrition is way off? I would look at my diet and traing habits and if necessary revamp them because you sound like your just not ready. And if your hell bent on using AS anyway, take everyones advise and use an injectable testosterone , it doesnt hurt unless your just a complete puss. Its not nasty or unsanitary either, just wipe the injection spot with an alchohol swap. im sure you will find everything you need under the spot injection section of the main Anabolic Review web site.
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04-10-2004, 09:04 PM #36
add in alcohol and accutane and you got quite a liver killer cycle. why is anyone so scared of injection???? it is so easy up the ass???
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04-10-2004, 09:06 PM #37Associate Member
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the thought of injecting man......i dont know
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04-10-2004, 09:08 PM #38
hey after the first you will fall in love with injecting yourself. it becomes a art. you will think how you lived without it.
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04-10-2004, 09:09 PM #39Associate Member
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**** i guess you are right................which Test is the longest acting
i might start a test only 1st cycle.........which test is injected the least
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04-10-2004, 09:11 PM #40
test enantate and liquadex and you will look sick with winny and anavar . don't ever go over 6 weeks with orals! you can damage your liver badly!
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