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    Best way to come off and star PCT????

    Hello
    what would be the proper way to come off
    from a 200-300 mg a week deca cycle for 6 weeks I did my last injection thurs .
    Do I need to run hcg and what about clomid or nolva wich one is best choice ??

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    If you want you could run hcg at 500iu everyday for the last 5-10 days
    before you start clomid, which would be 3 weeks after your last injection
    of deca then 300first day 150 second and 100-50mg a day clomid for thirty
    more days and run B6 at 400mg everyday to be safe nolva are optional
    in my opinion but I take them at 20mg a day all pct

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    ok I did the last injection last past thurs so I have to wait aprox 2 weeks and start the hcg 5-10 days and then start with the clomid and nolva ? is that correct

    thanks bro

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    If it was me 11 days after last injection I would run 500iu hch (just because
    thats what Ive had luck with personally everybodys different)and deca shuts
    you down hard, the day after your last injection run 300mg clomid then 150
    then 50mg's for 30 days you might want to have some nolva on hand during the hcg therapy because its could cause gyno run it at 20mg

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    Quote Originally Posted by animal-inside
    a deca only cycle sucks...... your recovery is going to be hard. no HCG or NOLVA needed.... just use clomid 300/100/50.......

    HCG is only really good for long cycles.. and not part of PCT unless done right.. otherwise it will only hurt your PCT

    nolva won't really help because deca dose not cause gyno that nolva can prevent. deca dose not arimatize
    I agree test is a must in any cycle but hcg will help with any recovery
    be it test,deca,ect make my balls drop and thats worth it to me right there

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    basic knowledge:
    1-test should be the base of all cycles.
    2-dbol only cycles r useless
    3-pct is a must
    4-yes u can drink winny
    5-EQ should be run at least 12 weeks.
    6-enth over sust
    7-deca only cycles suck
    8-there is a search option
    9-www.spotinjections.com
    10-time on=time off.

    ive read many posts and these seem to come up the most.....any questions

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    Don't need HCG on that short a cycle. Just do the usual clomid routine. 300/100/50. On a longer cycle, start the HCG the same day as your last shot of gear. Continue until the gear clears out, then stop HCG and start clomid. Don't do them at the same time. This way, your balls will be producing Test again when you start clomid and PCT will be much easier on you both physically and emotionally.

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    can you check on this one
    king pin
    11 days after last deca injection run the hcg 500 ui for 5 days and then start clomid
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    any advice

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    Thanks frank I did the last injection on thursday how many days week need to hold to start the clomid ?

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    That sounds like a good plan. I was on for two years straight. I took HCG at 5000.i.u.'s every five days starting on my last Sust inject. After the Sust cleared I stoppped the HCG and started Clomid. Recovery went really well. For such a short cycle, 500 i.u.'s a day for the last five days is good. Then drop the HCG and start clomid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANK WHITE
    That sounds like a good plan. I was on for two years straight. I took HCG at 5000.i.u.'s every five days starting on my last Sust inject. After the Sust cleared I stoppped the HCG and started Clomid. Recovery went really well. For such a short cycle, 500 i.u.'s a day for the last five days is good. Then drop the HCG and start clomid.
    what he said

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    Ok last question should I start now the hcg five days then drop off and do the clomid or should I wait for another week to start like I mentioned last injection was past thursday

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    So its been three days since your last inject and Deca stays in your system for two weeks. You've got eleven days until all the Deca is gone. If it was me, I'd run 500i.u.'s of HCG every other day for eleven days, wait a couple days to let the HCG clear, then start the clomid. You'll be fine bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANK WHITE
    So its been three days since your last inject and Deca stays in your system for two weeks. You've got eleven days until all the Deca is gone. If it was me, I'd run 500i.u.'s of HCG every other day for eleven days, wait a couple days to let the HCG clear, then start the clomid. You'll be fine bro.
    So thats the question should I run it now then the hcg

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANK WHITE
    So its been three days since your last inject and Deca stays in your system for two weeks. You've got eleven days until all the Deca is gone. If it was me, I'd run 500i.u.'s of HCG every other day for eleven days, wait a couple days to let the HCG clear, then start the clomid. You'll be fine bro.
    I beleive deca stays in you for three weeks

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    so just wait another week and then run 500iu eod let it clear like frank said
    and start clomid

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    So should I just wait and start clomid ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by solrac6262
    So should I just wait and start clomid ?
    just use clomid bro the hcg is for more longer cycles I just like my balls
    swinging quicker and deca does shut you down but it probably wont make that big of a difference in a cycle like this

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    thanks bro for all the help

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