cycle

**GINO** · 04-12-2004, 02:44 AM

what do you guys think about this cycle just needed some advise
week 1-8 tren and deca
week 9-15 winstrol and eq
16-21 hgh
and of course my pct
is this a good cycle and can you tell me how to update it

**TA63** · 04-12-2004, 03:02 AM

Need cycle history and stats. Wheres the test? I wouldn't run deca and fina at the same time. Also, 6 weeks of HGH is a waste. run it throughout the entire cycle or save it till you get enough for 3-4 months. You could try something like this.

Test Enanthate 500mg/wk 1-16
Equipoise 400 mg/ wk 1-12
Tren 50-75mg ed 10-16
winstrol 50mg ed 12-16
nolvadex 10 mg/day throughout
HCG 500 ius E3d starting week 10
liquidex throughout to minimize bloat

Some of the more experienced bros here will undoubtedly have some ideas too. Do some more research, and reasses diet and training routines before beginning. Good luck

**DARKSEID** · 04-12-2004, 05:22 AM

Originally Posted by TA63

Need cycle history and stats. Wheres the test? I wouldn't run deca and fina at the same time. Also, 6 weeks of HGH is a waste. run it throughout the entire cycle or save it till you get enough for 3-4 months. You could try something like this.

Test Enanthate 500mg/wk 1-16
Equipoise 400 mg/ wk 1-12
Tren 50-75mg ed 10-16
winstrol 50mg ed 12-16
nolvadex 10 mg/day throughout
HCG 500 ius E3d starting week 10
liquidex throughout to minimize bloat

Some of the more experienced bros here will undoubtedly have some ideas too. Do some more research, and reasses diet and training routines before beginning. Good luck

you pretty much summed it up that cycle is a mess, if it's his first I would def. cut back on the compounds way too much stuff.

**Da Bull** · 04-12-2004, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by TA63

Need cycle history and stats. Wheres the test? I wouldn't run deca and fina at the same time. Also, 6 weeks of HGH is a waste. run it throughout the entire cycle or save it till you get enough for 3-4 months. You could try something like this.

Test Enanthate 500mg/wk 1-16
Equipoise 400 mg/ wk 1-12
Tren 50-75mg ed 10-16
winstrol 50mg ed 12-16
nolvadex 10 mg/day throughout
HCG 500 ius E3d starting week 10
liquidex throughout to minimize bloat

Some of the more experienced bros here will undoubtedly have some ideas too. Do some more research, and reasses diet and training routines before beginning. Good luck

This cycle needs almost as much work as the one he stated above!

**DARKSEID** · 04-12-2004, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

This cycle needs almost as much work as the one he stated above!

The more I read on here, the more I understand how people come up with these outrageous cycles.

**Da Bull** · 04-12-2004, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by DARKSEID

The more I read on here, the more I understand how people come up with these outrageous cycles.

Scary at times isn't it?

**100571** · 04-12-2004, 12:41 PM

GINO

500mg/week Test (any ester) weel 1-10
anti-estrogens (research and take your pick) week 1-end of PCT
Clomid after Test (start time depends on ester used)

If you don't unserstand that, go back to the educational threads.

My first cycle was Winstrol only. It was a waste. Take the advice of people who have been in your shoes. Test is best; forget the rest.

100571

***50%Natural*** · 04-12-2004, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Da Bull

This cycle needs almost as much work as the one he stated above!

Agreed

**GINO** · 04-13-2004, 01:14 AM

I did test and deca for 8 weeks 6 months ago i loved the results i acheived. Im 28 years old 6'1 and 210 i work out 4 days a week and run 3 days a week. My diet consists of high protein low carbs for over 3 years i hate junk food and for the past 4 years i have never eaten fast foods always well prepared meals high in protein low in fat.
I am trying to put togather a 2nd cycle. Friends of mine used tren and he is amazed with the results. I was thinking of using tren and deca for the first 8 weeks and winstrol and test for the following 8 weeks just looking for some good advice. Thank you

***50%Natural*** · 04-13-2004, 01:19 AM

one word: progesterone...check it out bro

**KGBnine** · 04-13-2004, 01:20 AM

only 6 weeks of gh? that doesnt seem like enough. Or do you mean Hcg ?

**Da Bull** · 04-13-2004, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by GINO

I did test and deca for 8 weeks 6 months ago i loved the results i acheived. Im 28 years old 6'1 and 210 i work out 4 days a week and run 3 days a week. My diet consists of high protein low carbs for over 3 years i hate junk food and for the past 4 years i have never eaten fast foods always well prepared meals high in protein low in fat.
I am trying to put togather a 2nd cycle. Friends of mine used tren and he is amazed with the results. I was thinking of using tren and deca for the first 8 weeks and winstrol and test for the following 8 weeks just looking for some good advice. Thank you

If you had test in the cycle it can be fixed.Your running 2 compounds that are known to shut you down the hardest.Also it's a total waste to run HGH for that short of time.HGH needs to be run for a minimum of 3 mos to be effective.Your also running the deca a few weeks short as well.I'd really concider running test/fina/Eq and maybe some winny at the end,but I don't feel you'll need it with the combo i stated.You'll grow like a bean of test/fina/EQ.Something I'd really consider since it's a well proven combo to give awesome results.

**GINO** · 04-13-2004, 01:36 AM

So you guys think i should not use deca and tren in the beginning of the cycle
how many weeks of tren do you guys recommend i was told never go over 8 weeks

Im thinking of
week 1-8 trenbolone
week 1-12 deca and test
week 9-16 winstrol
so you recommend any changes

as always thanks

**Da Bull** · 04-13-2004, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by GINO

So you guys think i should not use deca and tren in the beginning of the cycle
how many weeks of tren do you guys recommend i was told never go over 8 weeks

Im thinking of
week 1-8 trenbolone
week 1-12 deca and test
week 9-16 winstrol
so you recommend any changes

as always thanks

Your correct on the fina...it's a good run at 8 weeks.But I still can't stress enough how poor a cycle this is.I can see no one her can change your mind.Good luck..............

**Da Bull** · 04-13-2004, 01:42 AM

TEST....TEST...TESTOSTERONE .....TESTOSTERONE....th at's what your cycle needs!!!!!!!

***50%Natural*** · 04-13-2004, 01:47 AM

did you search progesterone? tell me you did. You can not run tren and deca together....drop one or the other and your cycle wouldn't be near as bad

**GINO** · 04-13-2004, 01:48 AM

so you suggest test for 16 weeks im always opened to change da bull, I put test for 12 weeks but you recommend 16 weeks take away the deca and add eq

**Da Bull** · 04-13-2004, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by GINO

so you suggest test for 16 weeks im always opened to change da bull, I put test for 12 weeks but you recommend 16 weeks take away the deca and add eq

OK bro,I'll give you a nice sample cycle.

Wk 1-13 500 mgs weekly Test E or cyp
Wk 1-12 400 mgs weekly EQ
Wk 5-12 75 mgs ed fina

Nolv @10 mgs ed through cycle and 20 mgs ed at pct.L-dex @ .25 mgs ed throughout entire cycle.

Clomid will start 2 wks after last test shot Day 1 300mgs,day 2-11 100 mgs ed,day 12-21 50 mgs ed.