Please read this about Proteins!
Due to a couple of responses from Bros on this Board I decided to make this post and put it in the Steroid section since this is most read by novices (for who this post is intended)
People tend to forget that the easier it is to keep diet, the better because then you can make it a long time commitment...
This exactly is the reason why Crash Dieting doesn't work...
This is why during steroidcycles especially the anabolic kinds Proteinsupplementation is required in order not to keep a hard to maintain Diet (with for instance 600 grams of meat per day), not only that but to keep proteinintake suffecient so it doesn't form a bottleneck you will have to be very careful with what you eat since most High-Protein foods are also High Fat (eg Cheese)...
Not only to avoid "gain-bottlenecks" but studies with the Australian Army showed that if anabolic agents are used and protein intake is too low, the body will Synthesize proteins NO MATTER WHAT --> Meaning it will first use the Immune System as source followed by the Heart!!
But when is the best Time to take proteins and what kind is best...
Types:
Fast Acting Proteins:
e.g. Whey
--> if you are above 30 years old your body will benefit most from these types of protein
Slow Acting Proteins
Calcium Caseinate or Milkprotein
--> if you are under 30 years old your body will benefit most from these types of protein
(Especially very young individuals benefit from these proteins)
Time:
Studies have shown the three best times to take Proteins
First Thing in the morning:
A recent study showed that Fast acting proteins like Whey on an empty stomach cause Anabolic processes to occur!
1 hour After Work-Out:
The most common mistake is to take protein right after workout but this will cause at max 30% of the protein to be used properly the rest will be simply burned or worse stored as fat
Right after Workout the body can be 3 times as anabolic if supplied 0.8 times your weight in KG of Carbs...
When the GLUT404-bodies in your cell shut down (about 1 hour after training) your body will be craving for proteins and this is the best time of the day to supply them...
Before Sleep:
During sleep your body peaks at HGH-production you can stimulate and improve that proces by taking some slow acting Proteins like Milkprotein right before Bed...
The Best Formula (My friend a very specialized Ergonaut) studied these two blends to be most effective (without resorting to more designer, expensive and taste-like-crap stuff like bovine serum and the like)
For people above 30 years old)
70% Whey Protein Isolate Ion-exchange
5% Calcium Caseinate
15% Milk Protein Isolate
4% Soy Protein Isolate
6% Glutamine Peptides
Aminogen (+optional Vitamine mix)
these two options are available if you are ordering from Trueprotein or proteinfactory
For young individuals)
20% Whey Protein Isolate Ion-exchange
10% Calcium Caseinate
60% Milk Protein Isolate
4% Soy Protein Isolate
6% Glutamine Peptides
Aminogen (+optional Vitamine mix)
these two options are available if you are ordering from Trueprotein or proteinfactory
Sources:
1. Van Loon LJ, Kruijshoop M, Verhagen H, Saris WH, Wagenmakers AJ. Ingestion of Protein Hydrolysate and Amino Acid-Carbohydrate Mixtures Increases Postexercise Plasma Insulin Responses in Men. J Nutr 2000 Oct;130(10):2508-13.
2. Van Loon LJ, Saris WH, Kruijshoop M, Wagenmakers AJ. Maximizing postexercise muscle glycogen synthesis: carbohydrate supplementation and the application of amino acid or protein hydrolysate mixtures. Am J Clin Nutr 2000 Jul;72(1):106-11.
3. Pitkanen HT, Nykanen T, Knuutinen J, Lahti K, Keinanen O, Alen M, Komi PV, Mero AA. Free amino acid pool and muscle protein balance after resistance exercise. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2003 May;35(5):784-92.
4. Dangin M, Boirie Y, Guillet C, Beaufrere B. Influence of the protein digestion rate on protein turnover in young and elderly subjects. J Nutr 2002 Oct;132(10):3228S-33S.
5. Boirie Y, Dangin M, Gachon P, Vasson MP, Maubois JL, Beaufrere B. Slow and fast dietary proteins differently modulate postprandial protein accretion. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A 1997 Dec 23;94(26):14930-5.
6. Dangin M, Boirie Y, Garcia-Rodenas C, Gachon P, Fauquant J, Callier P, Ballevre O, Beaufrere B. The digestion rate of protein is an independent regulating factor of postprandial protein retention. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 2001 Feb;280(2):E340-8.
Finally some Criticism -> I love Science
It is what is most common but with most things in life people do it untiel they find something better or discover its dangerous, as is with for instance Benzene which for many years people thought was the best Cleaning fluid until they discovered it was very carcinogous...
As to the credibility of my story --> as a scientist should, I put all sources on the page (most can be looked up through PUBMED) and almost all these studies are with humans and all variables are left out so the only factor is the impact of proteins (times, dosages, kinds) on the Human Body....
So Just trying to help you Bros out there...
Kingofmasters
And having absolutely no teeth left!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Powrlftr
Hmmm .... let's see .... I'm 105 KG ... mult that by 0.8 ..... so I should eat 84 KG of carbs after my workout?
That's going to be tough ...... even 84g of carbs would be hard ;)
LMAO
I mean in grams of course, so you shoulk consume 84 grams, thats not very hard to do so about 800 ml of softdrink (4 glasses) at places like Fitness First and Cannons drinks are free so why not!
greets
Kingofmasters
