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    Prop and Var for 1st real cycle. Hints and tips...

    Ok guys, im 21, 185. my diet is on point as well as the cardio. Ive been liftin for about 5 years I did a deca only cycle a year and a half ago. i was not well informed about gear and i my diet was no where close to how it is now.I also saw How my body is succeptable to water retention. My other previous cycle was a winny cycle that ended in October. It was a good cycle since i lost a good amount of fat and got nicely defined in areas i needed.Ive been planning this one for a while. I want to shred more but i know i need to put on some lean mass. After researchin I belive A test cycle would be the best way to go about it. I also need to cut towards the end. My funds to spend on gear are pretty good. heres how it looks. I plan on taking the prop EOD.

    weeks 1-12 test Prop
    weeks 6-12 Var
    weeks 14-17 clomid.
    * is this the proper week for PCt? or should i start it at week 13?

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    pct starts 3 days after your last prop shot.how many mgs of var r u running?

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    im thinkin abut 20mgs. My source is in the process of getting it. He might be able to get liquid but i have to wait to see. Im not starting this cycle until i have it. is 20mgs enough for everyday or every other day use?

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    like mr sparkle said, dont make 2 threads with the same question at the same time, kinda pointless, but to answer, many ppl agree at LEAST 30mg's ed.i go with 40ed.

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    sorry bout that. i get nervous when im not sure about something. and especiallly this. I wont do it again.

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    i like the cycle, looks good, and just follow the advise above about PCT

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