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    About to buy my first set of gear!

    OK, after doing hours of research on this site and others, and talking to a few guys, I think I'm ready to make a trip to TJ, and start my first cycle. I felt like I was in school again with all the studying.
    Tell me what you guys think.

    I'm going to do a typical beginner cycle:

    Week 1-12 Test E, 500mg/wk, 2 shots/wk
    Week 1-11 EQ, 400mg/wk, 2 shots/wk
    Week 1-PCT Nolva 20mg/ed
    PCT Clomid 300/100/50

    I plan on buying in TJ:
    -QV Test E 250 50mL - 1 bottle
    -QV Bold 200 10mL - 3 bottles
    -Nolva - 200 20mg tabs
    -Clomid - 35 50mg tabs

    I plan on buying online:
    -100 23gauge 1.5" pins. 2 for each injection, one to extract, one to inject.
    -50 syringes

    Can I mix the Test and EQ in the same syringe? Should I do these injections on different days, or does it matter? Should I be taking an OTC liver protector ie. milk thistle, cranberry extract?

    Check my amounts above, that should cover my needs right? I figure I will spend under $300 in gear. TJ guys let me know if that price is about right.

    I'm 6'2", 195lbs, low teens in BF%, training for 11 years. If I've got my diet dialed, I think I can put on about 20-30lbs.

    Thanks for the help.
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    Looks good to me. You can double up on the pins if you want but I use the same one to extract and inject. Also it is ok to mix the test and eq in the same syringe. I just started my first cycle last week and it is a lot like yours. I split up and shoot the test and eq twice a week, sunday and thursday. I paid $161 for 3 10mL of EQ and 2 10mL of Test cyponate both Quality Vet products. I didn't get any clomid or nolvadex down there because I already had some that I got from a friend. Good luck on your first cycle, I cant wait for mine to kick in

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    I dont like that for a 1st cycle. How will you know which chem is causing unwanted sides? I'd say to go with a 12 week Test only cycle @ 350 to 500mg/wk.

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    Get your pinz here

    Im gonna do a test only cycle also for my first 500mg a week, I was gonna tell you that you should buy your pinz here or online that way you dont have to pass with sh--t load of stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dent depot
    I dont like that for a 1st cycle. How will you know which chem is causing unwanted sides? I'd say to go with a 12 week Test only cycle @ 350 to 500mg/wk.

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    EQ is such a mild anabolic , i think thats a pretty good cycle what he has above

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    also on the syringe's and pins. order 50 20gx1 1/2", and 50 23gx1 1/2" makes drawing faster.

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    You can also buy your pins and darts down there to. Very cheap.

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    how the hell are do some u guys bring it in? im thinking of hiding it inside my seats or taking out a headrest tv screen and puttin it in their?

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    TJ prices, at "Al Alazanes Vet" on Juarez st. in T.J.
    just did my spring/summer shopping spree =)

    QV Teston cyp200 10ml $20
    QV Tren75 10ml $79
    QV Deca300 10ml $37
    QV Enanthate250 10ml $24
    QV Bold200 10ml $30
    QV Stan100 20ml $125
    Denkall 100ct anavar (oxandrovet) $75
    Denkall 300ct D-bol $125
    Tornel Supertest250(sust250) 10ml $20
    Organon Sust250 redi-ject 1cc $11
    Brovel HCG 10ml 10,000i.u. 1,000i.u./cc $27

    right next door is a pharmacy, same owner.

    100ct bottle tamoxifeno(tamoxifen citrate) nolvadex 10mg $10
    10ct blister pack Serophene(Clomephene citrate) clomid 50mg $4
    50ct Oxyflux(clebuterol) $4.25
    10ct Proviron $10
    100ct T3 Cynomel $7

    happy hunting bro

    -Biggie
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    wtf !!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteyk
    EQ is such a mild anabolic, i think thats a pretty good cycle what he has above
    Oh, so Eq doesnt cause any sides....I didnt know that.

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    From what I hear the 50 ml bottles are way underdosed, go with the qv cyp.

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    I would buy 5 bottles of the Enanthate instead of the 50ml jug...to much BA in it......have fun in Mexico but be careful....they catch you and you are ****ed up big time!!!

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    I don't understand the BA thing... what is it for one...? and why is it greater in the 50mL bottle??? I bought one so I was just curious. and what is that about underdosed???? I have heard good stuff about QV Enantat....

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dent depot
    I dont like that for a 1st cycle. How will you know which chem is causing unwanted sides? I'd say to go with a 12 week Test only cycle @ 350 to 500mg/wk.

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    That was my first thought, but I have a strong lifting background and I'm 29, I figure I need a little more than the next guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JARVIZ
    Im gonna do a test only cycle also for my first 500mg a week, I was gonna tell you that you should buy your pinz here or online that way you dont have to pass with sh--t load of stuff!
    That was the idea, pins and syringes online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteyk
    also on the syringe's and pins. order 50 20gx1 1/2", and 50 23gx1 1/2" makes drawing faster.
    That was my original idea, does it make that much of a difference? I can get a price break by buying all the same size. Cost isn't an issue...but if it isn't gonna make a difference why not save? Let me know, remember I'm a newbie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahuna
    You can also buy your pins and darts down there to. Very cheap.
    I know, but online is so cheap anyway, plus Mexico is dirty, I don't trust s**t there. I've been there too many times, and have seen too much shady s**t there to trust anything. Thanks for the advice though bro.

    Enjoy the PB summer, I know I will at Laheina's and the rest of Garnett. I love it here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigM@
    Looks good to me. You can double up on the pins if you want but I use the same one to extract and inject. Also it is ok to mix the test and eq in the same syringe. I just started my first cycle last week and it is a lot like yours. I split up and shoot the test and eq twice a week, sunday and thursday. I paid $161 for 3 10mL of EQ and 2 10mL of Test cyponate both Quality Vet products. I didn't get any clomid or nolvadex down there because I already had some that I got from a friend. Good luck on your first cycle, I cant wait for mine to kick in
    Keep us posted how it goes, I think I will start on next Wed. but I would like to compare results as I go along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palequail
    I would buy 5 bottles of the Enanthate instead of the 50ml jug...to much BA in it......have fun in Mexico but be careful....they catch you and you are ****ed up big time!!!
    Is the BA really different? It seems like it would be the same.
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