Soon to go to TJ. Some last questions.

**SoCalMuscle** · 04-13-2004, 11:38 AM

OK, after doing hours of research on this site and others, and talking to a few guys, I think I'm ready to make a trip to TJ, and start my first cycle. I felt like I was in school again with all the studying.
Tell me what you guys think.

I'm going to do a typical beginner cycle:

Week 1-12 Test E, 500mg/wk, 2 shots/wk
Week 1-11 EQ, 400mg/wk, 2 shots/wk
Week 1-PCT Nolva 20mg/ed
PCT Clomid 300/100/50

I plan on buying in TJ:
-QV Test E 250 50mL - 1 bottle
-QV Bold 200 10mL - 3 bottles
-Nolva - 200 20mg tabs
-Clomid - 35 50mg tabs

I plan on buying online:
-100 23gauge 1.5" pins. 2 for each injection, one to extract, one to inject.
-50 syringes

Can I mix the Test and EQ in the same syringe? Should I do these injections on different days, or does it matter? Should I be taking an OTC liver protector ie. milk thistle, cranberry extract?

Check my amounts above, that should cover my needs right? I figure I will spend under $300 in gear. TJ guys let me know if that price is about right.

I'm 6'2", 195lbs, low teens in BF%, training for 11 years. If I've got my diet dialed, I think I can put on about 20-30lbs.

Thanks for the help.

**BigM@** · 04-13-2004, 05:10 PM

Looks good to me. You can double up on the pins if you want but I use the same one to extract and inject. Also it is ok to mix the test and eq in the same syringe. I just started my first cycle last week and it is a lot like yours. I split up and shoot the test and eq twice a week, sunday and thursday. I paid $161 for 3 10mL of EQ and 2 10mL of Test cyponate both Quality Vet products. I didn't get any clomid or nolvadex down there because I already had some that I got from a friend. Good luck on your first cycle, I cant wait for mine to kick in

**the dent depot** · 04-13-2004, 05:21 PM

I dont like that for a 1st cycle. How will you know which chem is causing unwanted sides? I'd say to go with a 12 week Test only cycle @ 350 to 500mg/wk.

d

**JARVIZ** · 04-13-2004, 05:33 PM

Im gonna do a test only cycle also for my first 500mg a week, I was gonna tell you that you should buy your pinz here or online that way you dont have to pass with sh--t load of stuff!

**whiteyk** · 04-13-2004, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by the dent depot

I dont like that for a 1st cycle. How will you know which chem is causing unwanted sides? I'd say to go with a 12 week Test only cycle @ 350 to 500mg/wk.

d

EQ is such a mild anabolic , i think thats a pretty good cycle what he has above

**whiteyk** · 04-13-2004, 06:43 PM

also on the syringe's and pins. order 50 20gx1 1/2", and 50 23gx1 1/2" makes drawing faster.

**Kahuna** · 04-13-2004, 06:57 PM

You can also buy your pins and darts down there to. Very cheap.

**D00fy** · 04-13-2004, 07:07 PM

how the hell are do some u guys bring it in? im thinking of hiding it inside my seats or taking out a headrest tv screen and puttin it in their?

**BIGGIE_smalls** · 04-13-2004, 07:09 PM

TJ prices, at "Al Alazanes Vet" on Juarez st. in T.J.
just did my spring/summer shopping spree =)

QV Teston cyp200 10ml $20
QV Tren75 10ml $79
QV Deca300 10ml $37
QV Enanthate250 10ml $24
QV Bold200 10ml $30
QV Stan100 20ml $125
Denkall 100ct anavar (oxandrovet) $75
Denkall 300ct D-bol $125
Tornel Supertest250(sust250) 10ml $20
Organon Sust250 redi-ject 1cc $11
Brovel HCG 10ml 10,000i.u. 1,000i.u./cc $27

right next door is a pharmacy, same owner.

100ct bottle tamoxifeno(tamoxifen citrate) nolvadex 10mg $10
10ct blister pack Serophene(Clomephene citrate) clomid 50mg $4
50ct Oxyflux(clebuterol) $4.25
10ct Proviron $10
100ct T3 Cynomel $7

happy hunting bro

-Biggie

**D00fy** · 04-13-2004, 07:18 PM

wtf !!!!!!!

**the dent depot** · 04-13-2004, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by whiteyk

EQ is such a mild anabolic, i think thats a pretty good cycle what he has above

Oh, so Eq doesnt cause any sides....I didnt know that.

D

Rome wasnt built in a day.

**billy_ba** · 04-13-2004, 07:48 PM

From what I hear the 50 ml bottles are way underdosed, go with the qv cyp.

**palequail** · 04-13-2004, 08:20 PM

I would buy 5 bottles of the Enanthate instead of the 50ml jug...to much BA in it......have fun in Mexico but be careful....they catch you and you are ****ed up big time!!!

**100%NATURAL-theGH** · 04-14-2004, 03:02 AM

I don't understand the BA thing... what is it for one...? and why is it greater in the 50mL bottle??? I bought one so I was just curious. and what is that about underdosed???? I have heard good stuff about QV Enantat....

**SoCalMuscle** · 04-14-2004, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by the dent depot

I dont like that for a 1st cycle. How will you know which chem is causing unwanted sides? I'd say to go with a 12 week Test only cycle @ 350 to 500mg/wk.

d

That was my first thought, but I have a strong lifting background and I'm 29, I figure I need a little more than the next guy.

**SoCalMuscle** · 04-14-2004, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by JARVIZ

Im gonna do a test only cycle also for my first 500mg a week, I was gonna tell you that you should buy your pinz here or online that way you dont have to pass with sh--t load of stuff!

That was the idea, pins and syringes online.

**SoCalMuscle** · 04-14-2004, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by whiteyk

also on the syringe's and pins. order 50 20gx1 1/2", and 50 23gx1 1/2" makes drawing faster.

That was my original idea, does it make that much of a difference? I can get a price break by buying all the same size. Cost isn't an issue...but if it isn't gonna make a difference why not save? Let me know, remember I'm a newbie.

**SoCalMuscle** · 04-14-2004, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by Kahuna

You can also buy your pins and darts down there to. Very cheap.

I know, but online is so cheap anyway, plus Mexico is dirty, I don't trust s**t there. I've been there too many times, and have seen too much shady s**t there to trust anything. Thanks for the advice though bro.

Enjoy the PB summer, I know I will at Laheina's and the rest of Garnett. I love it here!

**SoCalMuscle** · 04-14-2004, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by BigM@

Looks good to me. You can double up on the pins if you want but I use the same one to extract and inject. Also it is ok to mix the test and eq in the same syringe. I just started my first cycle last week and it is a lot like yours. I split up and shoot the test and eq twice a week, sunday and thursday. I paid $161 for 3 10mL of EQ and 2 10mL of Test cyponate both Quality Vet products. I didn't get any clomid or nolvadex down there because I already had some that I got from a friend. Good luck on your first cycle, I cant wait for mine to kick in

Keep us posted how it goes, I think I will start on next Wed. but I would like to compare results as I go along.

**SoCalMuscle** · 04-14-2004, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by palequail

I would buy 5 bottles of the Enanthate instead of the 50ml jug...to much BA in it......have fun in Mexico but be careful....they catch you and you are ****ed up big time!!!

Is the BA really different? It seems like it would be the same.