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    Arrow HIV from used syringe

    Is it possible to read ones blood work results and see from any of the numbers (white blood cells, liver values etc) if one may have the HIV virus?

    I know, syringes are cheap and should never ever be reused, and getting a HIV test is probably free and easy.

    Please advice.

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    i dont know what to say here.

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    Not something to fool around with bros. for your sake and others. Just go to your doctor and get some blood work done ASAP!!!

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    Wtf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by razor67
    i dont know what to say here.
    me either......

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    I know, go see a doc, but for certain reasons I can't.

    So does certain blood values indicate HIV infection?

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    You can't, in general, distinguish early HIV infection symptoms from any general viral infection. An HIV test is needed.
    It scares me that this question is even asked.

    There are no values, other than a p24 HIV test, that will indicate HIV infection rather than any viral infection (for clarity)

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    Einstein: All tested out within reference ranges, that is white, red, testo, electrolytes, gt, ast, alt, iron, hemo etc. I did not test cholesterol tho, which I regret.

    So you say early infection does normaly not alter these values?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-liks-var-Alot
    Einstein: All tested out within reference ranges, that is white, red, testo, electrolytes, gt, ast, alt, iron, hemo etc. I did not test cholesterol tho, which I regret.

    So you say early infection does normaly not alter these values?
    WBC may be elevated, but that'll depend on the # of infectious particles (virions) and the time from the point of infection. Go to a pharmacy and buy an HIV test, which you mail in.....anonymous

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    If you're considering sharing needles with another person, don't do it because it's dangerous. YOU SHOULD NEVER SHARE NEEDLES. You can catch many diseases by sharing needles, including HIV.

    Unless you request an HIV test, you can't necessarily tell if a person has HIV. A person who has not taken medication and has advanced HIV (had it in the system for a long time and it has begun to affect things like red blood cell count) or full blown AIDS, then a blood test might show signs that indicate that there MIGHT be a problem such as HIV.

    The only way to relatively certainly determine if someone has HIV is to get an HIV test. Although HIV antibodies may show up on tests early, the time frame in which almost 100% of the population will develop detectable HIV antibodies (which cause a HIV test to be positive) is 6 months from the day of initial infection. Therefore, if you are regularly at risk of contracting HIV, you should get tested every 6 months. Remember: HIV tests may show a false negative reading if you get tested within the first 6 months of becoming infected.

    If you are afraid you have been infected recently:
    1. Wait 6 months from the time you think you were infected, then get tested.
    2. If the first test is negative, wait another 4-6 months and get tested again to make sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-liks-var-Alot
    I know, go see a doc, but for certain reasons I can't.

    So does certain blood values indicate HIV infection?
    what reasons if i might ask? HIV and AIDS is an extremely serious matter that i wouldn't want to take my chances on.

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    First time I have ever heard of this. Dumb move, use your head more in the future

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    there's free HIV tests in most cities and those are free clinics... if not, it's only about $40 to do the test and it's anonymous. Most of them use a swab these days for DNA sample. That's all. Get it done and you'd feel a lot better. Otherwise being sick from HIV will pretty much make you loose what you've gained... which is a major sign of this viral infection, weight loss. Take it serious and get it checked out...

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    Contrary to popular belief, contracting HIV is not as easy as one would think. Your real concern would be contracting Hepatitis. Depending on when you were exposed, may determine when you should get tested. It can take the body up until 6 months to build antibodies against HIV, which the test is attempting to locate. There is a fairly new test known as PCR, which in essence is a test used in the infancy of infection. During nursing school, a fellow student was accidentally stuck with a syringe utlized ona patient who was known to have AIDS. That was three years, and he as since tested negative and been cleared. Bottom line, NEVER share needles.

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    dunno how much help this is... but for what it's worth here it goes.....

    I work in decontamination is a hospital - i pretty much handle bloody instruments (with protective attire ofcoarse) and i clean the instruments and sterilize them. A while back i got pricked iwth a used needle and had to see an infectious disease doctor (hospital policy) just incase anything was ont he needle.

    The ifectious disease doctor had told me that if blood was on a needle and the blood was infected with HIV.... and it got jammed fully into you - it doesn't necessarily mean you will get HIV. He said believe it or not - the chances are very slim. You actually havea greater chance of getting Hep B or hep C than getting HIV. Hep C is actually worse than HIV.....

    In any case - this shouldn't be taken lightly...... the risk may not be HUGE but there is still a risk..... you need tog et a test just like i did - incase your luck sucks......

    Who's needle was it? did 1 person use it? or multiple? If 1 other person used it. have them get tested for HIV.... they may be further along in the process....... and if i was you - i'd also get tested.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunMuscle
    Contrary to popular belief, contracting HIV is not as easy as one would think. Your real concern would be contracting Hepatitis. Depending on when you were exposed, may determine when you should get tested. It can take the body up until 6 months to build antibodies against HIV, which the test is attempting to locate. There is a fairly new test known as PCR, which in essence is a test used in the infancy of infection. During nursing school, a fellow student was accidentally stuck with a syringe utlized ona patient who was known to have AIDS. That was three years, and he as since tested negative and been cleared. Bottom line, NEVER share needles.
    exactly. See.....

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    I guess I could clarify too........My PhD thesis is pertaining to HIV vaccine research.
    It's too early for PCR......anti-HIV antibodies won't be present in detectable levels for 2 weeks at least.....even if there are anti-HIV antibodies, this simply means you've been exposed...not necessarily infected.
    testing for actual virus is the best way....either by PCR or p24 ELISA.
    Becoming infected with HIV is difficult, actually....it's not very infective....I rarely wear gloves.
    I still can't stress how foolish/irresponsible it is to share needles...that's disappointing to hear it still occurs.
    If you're sharing needles with someone you'd even suspect of being HIV+, then HIV shouldn't be your biggest concern....Hepatitis would be what I'd look for.

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    if im not mistaken you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning then you of getting hiv.

    here are the top 3 best ways to get infected( released by the cdc )
    1-gays 65%
    2-iv users 25%
    3-heterosexuals, blood transfusions etc 10%

    Unless your in the first or second row, you should be fine but for the love of god needles are dirt cheap.

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    einstein rox0rs with his PhD Thesis.......

    question for yah bro..... How long can HIV survive 1) in a fluid on a flat surface - and 2) on a needle.....

    i thought it was only 4hrs when exposed to air..... please clarify

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    its not 4 hours...outside the body its more like 10 mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazard
    einstein rox0rs with his PhD Thesis.......

    question for yah bro..... How long can HIV survive 1) in a fluid on a flat surface - and 2) on a needle.....

    i thought it was only 4hrs when exposed to air..... please clarify
    you'll hear anywhere from 20min to a couple hours, it'll depend on if it's in an aqueous environment (a drop of blood on a countertop for instance).

    ON a needle....same deal....IN a needle, a bit longer


    As for the stats from the CDC.....transmission rates (ability to be infected) are no different for homosexual vs heterosexual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quebecbulk
    its not 4 hours...outside the body its more like 10 mins.
    oh.... i thought if blood had spilt onto a table and it was infected with HIV... i could live longer than that

    well thats good to know.....

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    Howdy,

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunMuscle
    Contrary to popular belief, contracting HIV is not as easy as one would think.
    Bottom line, NEVER share needles.
    Tell that to one of my friends. He caught it from using a dirty needle while he was in prison. He knows when and where it happened.

    Stengun

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    Quote Originally Posted by einstein1905
    As for the stats from the CDC.....transmission rates (ability to be infected) are no different for homosexual vs heterosexual.
    i wouldn't think so...... i mean..... it doesn't matter who the "HIV juice" goes into.... hetero or homo...... it's still in em

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    Quote Originally Posted by stengun
    Howdy,



    Tell that to one of my friends. He caught it from using a dirty needle while he was in prison. He knows when and where it happened.

    Stengun
    sorry for your friend thats just how life works i guess..... luck wasn't on his side

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    Quote Originally Posted by stengun
    Howdy,



    Tell that to one of my friends. He caught it from using a dirty needle while he was in prison. He knows when and where it happened.

    Stengun
    Needles are the most efficient way to transmit HIV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quebecbulk
    if im not mistaken you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning then you of getting hiv.

    here are the top 3 best ways to get infected( released by the cdc )
    1-gays 65%
    2-iv users 25%
    3-heterosexuals, blood transfusions etc 10%

    Unless your in the first or second row, you should be fine but for the love of god needles are dirt cheap.
    Yea I was reading somewhere that even amoung gays, something like only 10% are infected so gays should continue to play safe because a good majority of them dont have HIV. IV drug users have almost 70% infected rate so if you are an IV drug user, the chances are worst for you then if you were a gay. I think also the San Francisco health dept says there has never been a known transmission of AIDS amoung gays via oral sex and all the gay aids cases come from "up the butt" sex. Gays that use oral sex only have AIDS rates as low as lesbians. Knowing this, makes you wonder how Magic Johnson got his??

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    If you can't use a clean needle and use one every time you inject anything you have no reason to inject yourself with anything.

    To sum it up:
    NO CLEAN NEEDLE NO INJECTION!

    nuff said!

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    Get a test and don't ever EVER share a needle or after I ban you I will come kick you in the ASS. PM me and I will send you a box of syringes if your only option is to share one.

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    Please ppl, I'm in jail...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-liks-var-Alot
    .Is it possible to read ones blood work results and see from any of the numbers (white blood cells, liver values etc) if one may have the HIV virus?

    I know, syringes are cheap and should never ever be reused, and getting a HIV test is probably free and easy

    Please advice.
    My allergy meds are making me see things, seriously, I could of swore I just read a thread that said:
    "Is it possible to read ones blood work results and see from any of the numbers (white blood cells, liver values etc) if one may have the HIV virus?

    I know, syringes are cheap and should never ever be reused, and getting a HIV test is probably free and easy"

    I'm definately going to ask the Doc for something different, I can't go around halucinating like this.
    TSW

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSevnthWarrior
    My allergy meds are making me see things, seriously, I could of swore I just read a thread that said:
    "Is it possible to read ones blood work results and see from any of the numbers (white blood cells, liver values etc) if one may have the HIV virus?

    I know, syringes are cheap and should never ever be reused, and getting a HIV test is probably free and easy"

    I'm definately going to ask the Doc for something different, I can't go around halucinating like this.
    TSW
    hahahaha! very nice! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-liks-var-Alot
    Please ppl, I'm in jail...
    Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-liks-var-Alot
    Please ppl, I'm in jail...
    Well, that certainly explains why you can't find clean needles. If you're not in for life and you don't have a supply of clean needles, I suggest that you find something else to do besides steroids becasue you'll end up contracting HIV and several other diseases if you share a needle.

    How important is staying healthy to you? How important is using steroids to you? I hope your better judgment wins.

    How many years/months do you have before parole/release--or are you in for life?
    Last edited by BASK8KACE; 04-14-2004 at 01:19 PM.

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    How important is staying healthy to you? How important is using steroids to you? I hope your better judgment wins.
    Here here!
    Serious food for thought.
    TSW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-liks-var-Alot
    Please ppl, I'm in jail...
    seriously? wow, this is the first time ever hearing about aas usage actually in a prison. i can't imagine doing a cycle there

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    This is probably the most irresponsible post I have ever come across. Not only are you sharing needles, but sharing it with guys in jail? For the LOVE of GOD bro, Steroids or drugs isn't worth it. Seriously. Please, please, please be safe.

    I have friends in the porn business. They have all women/men do a DNA test which will show if someone has HIV within 5-7 days. If your nervous and think you might have it, a DNA test is the way to go.

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    people in prison have internet access?

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    if you really are in the joint and you HAVE to cycle, get orals dude. Don't share needles, we've been taught that since like elementary school

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    Quote Originally Posted by Act of God
    Don't share needles, we've been taught that since like elementary school
    My elementary school tried to dissuade us from using injectables in the first place, but it was kind of a conservative school.

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