Thread: Proposed cycle...
04-14-2004, 12:39 PM #1
Hey bros, I won't be running this cycle til December 2004 (I'm running the cycle in my sig in a few weeks), but I thought I'd go ahead and post it up here to see what you guys thought. I love Fina- it's the greatest thing on Earth. However, research leads me to believe that my issue "below the belt" is solely due to Fina. No, I don't have "fina dick" or anything. I've got a problem with "lasting too long". It's nearly impossible to finish, and my girlfriend thinks it's her fault, even though I've reassured her that it's the juice. Because of this, I'm (sad to say) gonna lay off Fina for the next 2-3 cycles. I still like short esters, so here's my proposed cycle:
1-12 T.Prop 250mg/ED
1-8 Anavar 50mg/ED
9-12 Winstrol 75mg/ED
1-12 Masteron 50mg/ED
1-18 Nolvadex 20mg/ED
1-18 Liquidex .50mg/ED
10-16 Clomid 100mg/ED
7-8, 11-12 Clenbuterol 180mcg/ED
1-12 Humalin-R 15iu's/3 days on 1 day off
1-12 T-3 25mcg/ED
I was thinking of going ahead and bumping the prop to 300mg/ED, but I decided with everything else, 250mg/ED would be sufficient. I may extend the Prop, Winny, Humalin-R and Masteron to 14 weeks. Comments/suggestions are welcome...
edit: Forgot to add the Clomid!
Last edited by GymDog; 04-14-2004 at 02:13 PM.
04-14-2004, 12:43 PM #2
If you are comfortable with 1.75 grams of test a week, then do it up. That is a good cycle, but I personally wouldn't use so much test, but you are probably more advanced than me.
04-14-2004, 12:46 PM #3
Wow, thats a pretty clean looking cycle. You should grow very lean. Whats your cycle experience? Whats your goals
04-14-2004, 12:47 PM #4
I would cut out the winny or the var, or shorten the var to 4 weeks to give your liver a break of a couple weeks from the AA17
04-14-2004, 12:48 PM #5
it looks good, but jesus thats alot of test...
04-14-2004, 01:45 PM #6Originally Posted by cpt steele
04-14-2004, 01:46 PM #7
04-15-2004, 03:01 PM #8
Just curious, as the steroid profiles can only tell you so much about a drug, does anyone have any advice or experiences on what to expect out of Masteron ? This will be the first time I've tried this drug. I'm running Anavar as a substitute for Fina, and I decided to throw the Masteron in because I liked what it said. As I said, from what I read, Masteron is good for keeping/increasing leanness, and it has anti-estrogenic properties similar to Proviron . Is there anything else to expect from Masteron (sides, gains, etc)?
04-15-2004, 03:33 PM #9Anabolic Member
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You've only done four cycles and you're planning to use 250mg of prop every day on your sixth cycle? That's 1,750mg of prop per week (close to two grams).
What were your gains on your first 4 cycles?
Most people gain 10-20 lbs per cycle using much less than this. Why are you using so much when you can get the same gains on much less?
Last edited by BASK8KACE; 04-15-2004 at 03:43 PM.
04-15-2004, 03:44 PM #10Originally Posted by GymDog
04-15-2004, 07:40 PM #11
I've always upped my test dosage a little at a time with each cycle. First was 500, second was 525, third was 700, fourth was 1050, my fifth this May will be 1400. So, I usually bump it 200-300 each time. Some people would suggest to keep the doses low, but it's how I've always ran my cycles, and it's how I like to run my cycles. I just make sure to keep my anti-e's high enough to ensure no negative sides...
BTW, I'm nearing the peak of my dosing. I really don't plan on shooting more than 2g of test, even 5-10 years down the road...
04-15-2004, 07:43 PM #12
what hapens when you get your test up so high you blow your heart out?? there is a limit to this you know....
04-15-2004, 08:19 PM #13Anabolic Member
Originally Posted by barbarian
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I'm glad you asked that question. What happens after your blow your heart out is...you die.
Originally Posted by GymDog
You may feel comfortable about your choice to run that much prop--(whose equivalent in cypionate or enanthate is even more), but the truth is you don't need that much testosterone to grow--especially on your 4th, 5th and 6th cycles.
I won't preach to you because you've obviously made up your mind. I hope you stay as healthy as possible.
For the safety of new users who may read this and be misled by your comments, I want to point out a few things:
1. GymDog said that he keeps his anti-e's high to try to avoid side effects (highlighted in red above). Anti-e's will only help prevent side effects related to aromatization/estrogen. Anti-e's will not keep anyone safe from the numerous other side effects and damage to health that can occur when using steroids--especially at incredibly high doses.
2. No one needs to increase doses each consecutive cycle to keep growing. A person can grow at the same doses for several cycles, especially if you use the time on = time off rule, which allows your body to return to a normal, pre-cycle state.
3. For those considering using steroids, your goals should be to use as little steroids as possible while making fantastic gains 10-20lbs per cycle (remember, gains on a cycle include water weight, body fat AND lean muscle mass).
4. When you stop growing or are not growing, the issue is more often a result of poor nutrition (usually undereating as a result of not taking time to systematically count calories) rather than the doses of the cycle or the number of steroids you stack. Whenever you hit a plateau, the first things that you should look to adjust (in order of importance) are: (1) nutrition, (2) rest periods/sleep/recovery, (3) workout intensity.
Last edited by BASK8KACE; 04-15-2004 at 08:28 PM.
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