Thread: NO PCT, NO problem
04-15-2004, 02:10 PM #1
NO PCT, NO problem
I finished a 10 week cycle of 400 mg of test a week and did no PCT because I did not really feel like most do when on test- I felt like **** all the time. I did gain 25 pounds, a little strength. Not all of my weight was muscle because I increases calories by 1500 for the cycle and had a little water retention. But the thing is, is that I have been off three weeks with no PCT and I have gotten a little stronger and have lost 4 pounds in body fat and water. How can this be- it did not even shut me test down.
04-15-2004, 02:14 PM #2
be careful..... my father did 400mg's test a week for 10 weeks and took OTC nolva and clomids - which i told him not to. but he didn't listen since a friend told him it'd be OK...... this friend also owns the store he bought it from
anyways..... it didn't completely shut him down..... but he now admits he should have done the real stuff..... his natural test production - what little of it there is - is finally back to normal
*edit* it's one year later
04-15-2004, 02:15 PM #3
For starters it has only been three weeks. You may get lucky and recover without to many probs although it is to early to tell but you won't keep getting lucky.
04-15-2004, 02:17 PM #4Originally Posted by catabolic kid
04-15-2004, 02:17 PM #5
exactly.... the test you injected is just leaing your system now..... wait another 2-3 weeks.....
04-15-2004, 02:22 PM #6Associate Member
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my brother did a 10 weeker of 500mg test e with no PCT. He gained 20+ lbs and started losing muscle/strength little by little. BY 3 months out from his last test shot, he was only up around 12lbs and he also lost his six pack. his arms got a little bigger but the rest of him looks pretty much the same. IMO, without pct, his cycle was a waste. I wouldn't waste $200 to gain 12lbs and a gut.
04-15-2004, 03:09 PM #7Originally Posted by catabolic kid
why would you brag about this...would you brag that you bought a car w/o wheels???...cause its about the same...w/o clomid and nolva is a half-a$$ed cycle...
04-15-2004, 03:13 PM #8
heres an idea.. when you recover do a FINA only cycle for 15 weeks with no PCT and see how you recover big boy
04-15-2004, 03:17 PM #9Originally Posted by barbarian
04-15-2004, 04:23 PM #10Originally Posted by einstein1905
04-15-2004, 04:32 PM #11
04-15-2004, 04:40 PM #12Originally Posted by catabolic kid
04-15-2004, 04:43 PM #13
quite possibly the coolest person in the world
04-15-2004, 07:15 PM #14Respected Member
Originally Posted by GymDog
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04-15-2004, 07:23 PM #15
I started my pct 2 weeks late (5 wks after the last inject of test) and I believe that even starting late caused me to lose about 20% as much as I would have with proper pct. I can just imagine not even running pct, ouch!!! You will lose 90% of gains and I gurantee you will buy ancillaries next time.
04-15-2004, 08:19 PM #16Originally Posted by billy_ba
04-15-2004, 09:25 PM #17
So, I'm suprised no-one else had actually said this. If you're only three weeks out....
Why don't you try running PCT now.? Kick the boys back in with some HCG and then run some clomid.
You may actually keep some gains.
04-15-2004, 09:27 PM #18Originally Posted by Illusion of size
04-15-2004, 09:29 PM #19Originally Posted by GymDog
funny sh*t Bro
04-15-2004, 09:35 PM #20Originally Posted by billy_ba
Can't he start now???
04-15-2004, 10:09 PM #21
I did something similar - 10 days d-bol followed 2 weeks juice with No clomir nolva. then as soon as it came in I started. Im in middle of wek 4 and making progress.
Is it too late for me too ?
Originally Posted by Illusion of size
04-16-2004, 12:18 AM #22
Test Enanthate @ 500mg p/week weeks 1 - 12
Dianabol @ 35mg p/day weeks 1 - 4
@ 4000 calories per day consisting of 500g of carbs, and 300g of proteins, and the rest of the calories were made up by the fats. I did no PCT and at the end all together went from 200.2lbs to 226.6 lbs and still seemd to stay fairly lean (6'4 @12%). I have been "off" for 3.5 months now and I am 225lbs still, and feeling good. The only thing I lost the most is strength, but however I am still lifting stronger than before I started my cycle, but just am not as strong as when I was peeking while cycling. I also kept my calories high for 1 month after my cycle. I am looking at doing another cycle soon so I will let you know how I go. This time have the PCT gear so I will defenitely give PCT a go next cycle.
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