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    mass mass mass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    hi need to gain as much mass as i can in the next 4 months .... it is my first cycle ...stats - 21 yo 205 lbs 6'2 been training hard for 2 yrs ....

    i have decided to go with a ten week cycle of test E at 500mg/week with proviron (and nolva on hand) clomid, nolva and clenbuterol for pct (4 weeks)

    what i want to find out is what is the best steriod to use with the test, that will give me MAXIMUM MASS ....please tell me what has worked the best for you and if possible your results from the cycle ..... i seriousily need your advice.
    p.s. my diet will look like this
    5000 cals
    400g/protein
    300g/carbs
    keep fat as low as possible
    add weight gainers for additional calories.

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    For mass cycles Deca is great with Test.......as for your diet goes if you are in search of mass then don't be afraid to eat fats. You gotta eat huge to grow...

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    Eat Big to Grow Big Bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifter
    Eat Big to Grow Big Bro
    AMEN, words to live by always.

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    in your opinion is deca with test better than d-bol with test ... also will the deca give me a decreased or increase sex drive? aka ive heard of "deca dick" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bestbod85
    in your opinion is deca with test better than d-bol with test ... also will the deca give me a decreased or increase sex drive? aka ive heard of "deca dick" ?

    Deca shuts down you HPTA pretty hard but if you are in search of mass it is my favorite mass builder with Test....Test and Dbol is good too but I personally don't like like running two androgens......test is very androgenic and anabolic and deca is purely anabolic.......expect some bloat but that is normal. But in all honesty DIET is the key to getting huge.

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    make sure you have proper Post Cycle Therapy in place......

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    thanks bros i'll take the diet advice and read up some more on the deca ... so i know my optimal dosages and when to incorporate it into the cycle .....thanks guys big help!

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    As long as you have an androgen present, and you have test and proviron , so that is covered, the deca shouldnt give you lower than normal libido. Everyone reacts differently with deca, so you'll just have to try it out.

    Deca and test together is the best two compound mass stack out there.

    Test e 1-12
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