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    please, need critiques/advice on proposed cycles...

    ok, im sitting here trying to decide what to order for my next cycle...

    i've already decided that i'm going to try jumpstarting my cycle with m1t to see if all the great results i've heard of are realistic.

    other than that, i want to gain a few pounds of lbm, without bloating too much.

    here's what i've been considering...

    cycle #1

    1-3 20 mgs m1t ed
    1-10 750 mgs test enth ew
    1-10 500 mgs tren enth ew
    1-? 10 mgs nolva ed

    cycle #2

    1-3 20 mgs m1t ed

    1-15 600 mgs eq ew

    1-16 750 mgs test enth ew

    1-8 400 mgs deca ew (simply b/c i have a 20 ml bottle lying around, and it would be good while im waiting for the eq to start kicking in)

    1-? 10 mgs nolva ed


    cycle #3

    1-3 20 mgs m1t ed
    1-10 400 mgs parabolan ew
    1-10 750 mgs test enth ew
    1-? 10 mgs nolva ed


    what do you guys think? i'm leaning toward cycle #1 the most, and i like cycle #2 alot, with some reservations about the deca. and cycle #3 would be much better if i could afford some more parabolan.

    any comments/thoughts/criticisms appreciated.

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    I know I am new to this board but I do know that parabolan is hard and next to impossible to get a hold of. Those who claim they have it are probably holding a fake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArMaGeDoN
    I know I am new to this board but I do know that parabolan is hard and next to impossible to get a hold of. Those who claim they have it are probably holding a fake...

    thanks, but its legit para. UG lab.

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    i like the 2nd one with tren enth and eq, but drop the deca in this one and use the tren enth...i would do this though

    1-15 test e
    1-15 tren enth
    1-15 eq
    15-18 prop
    run .25mg L-dex/10mg nolva throughout for gyno and bloat
    standard clomid pct...might need some hcg if you get shut down to bad.

    i thought up that cycle earlier and i really like it...the tren may be pushing it...if so cut it off at week 10.

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    Bro with 750mg of test enan your going to see some bloat, unless your 1 of the lucky that don't bloat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyB
    Bro with 750mg of test enan your going to see some bloat, unless your 1 of the lucky that don't bloat.

    JohnnyB
    yep definatly nedd some l-dex....25-.5 ed..., btw, .5 kept the bloat to a minimum when i was on test and d-bol if that helps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColdStone
    i like the 2nd one with tren enth and eq, but drop the deca in this one and use the tren enth...i would do this though

    1-15 test e
    1-15 tren enth
    1-15 eq
    15-18 prop
    run .25mg L-dex/10mg nolva throughout for gyno and bloat
    standard clomid pct...might need some hcg if you get shut down to bad.

    i thought up that cycle earlier and i really like it...the tren may be pushing it...if so cut it off at week 10.
    This is perfect. Tren/EQ/test....great combo
    Use the tren E in the 550-650mg/wk neighborhood.
    test could be in the 600-700mg/wk range
    I like the prop to end it
    Good set up
    Bloat should be minimal with Ldex/nolva combo

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    I like prop in the beganning and at the end

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyB
    I like prop in the beganning and at the end

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    yeah i would probly use prop to jumpstart before m1t, but whatever you like cojones

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    I like 'em in just the order you put 'em:
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    ok, so what i'm thinking right now is...

    1-3 M1T 20 mgs ed
    1-10 Tren Enth 500 mgs ew
    1-12 EQ 600 mgs ew
    1-13 Test Enth 750 mgs ew

    nolva 10 mg ed
    ldex .25 ed? mabye .5?

    PCT 2 weeks after last shot of test e...

    JB, i like prop at the end as well, but im paying the extra for tren enth to avoid ed shots for now...

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    I'd use Ldex at 0.25-0.5 and nolva at 10-20mg/day, that'll depend on how much you usually bloat. Keep in mind that fina at 75mg/day is 525mg/wk, and that enanthate is a heavier ester too.

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    yea, if i can afford more tren enth, ill run it at 600 mgs ew...

    the acetate ester yields 87 mg per 100 mg injected right?

    and enanthate is 72 mg per 100 mg?

    please correct me if i'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monstercojones
    yea, if i can afford more tren enth, ill run it at 600 mgs ew...

    the acetate ester yields 87 mg per 100 mg injected right?

    and enanthate is 72 mg per 100 mg?

    please correct me if i'm wrong.
    Those numbers are right

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    thanks for verifying that for me. so at 72 mg per 100 mg... i would need to run 700 mgs of tren enth ew in order to get the rough equalivalent of 75 mgs tren ace ed...

    i've never run tren before, so i'm thinking i might just run it at 500 mgs ew of the Tren Enth to equal 50 mgs of tren ace ed. cause i'm not sure exactly how i'm going to react to it.

    does that sound about right?

    any thoughts are welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monstercojones
    ok, so what i'm thinking right now is...

    1-3 M1T 20 mgs ed
    1-10 Tren Enth 500 mgs ew
    1-12 EQ 600 mgs ew
    1-13 Test Enth 750 mgs ew

    nolva 10 mg ed
    ldex .25 ed

    I like this set up and think youll like the m1t jumpstart. I would add hcg into the mix about midway through and do 500iu 2x/wk till pct, but that is up to you.
    best of luck

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    i've been considering the hcg to keep the boys in good shape. i think the tren may force me into using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monstercojones
    i've been considering the hcg to keep the boys in good shape. i think the tren may force me into using it.
    You can use the HCG or run tribulus all the way through the cycle @3-4 gram ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    You can use the HCG or run tribulus all the way through the cycle @3-4 gram ed.

    which is better in your opinion?

    and i haven't seen trib on any lists, is it legally obtainable?

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