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NotSmall
08-26-2004, 04:35 PM
I thought I'd post a few current pics, I know I've still got a long way to go, thats why I posted a few from april this year - to make the current ones look better!

I'm posting them now because I am just starting a six month GH run (my first) so I'll post pictures to show my progress every month or so during the cycle.

Any feedback on my progress so far would be welcome - just be gentle!

kc
08-26-2004, 04:45 PM
:hello: hey, that's great progress since april! Lookin good...can't wait to see the better ;)

juicehoe
08-26-2004, 10:31 PM
good progress in time. Keep us updated. Try to hit your chest hard as its seems to be lacking from the rest of your upper body. :)

NotSmall
08-27-2004, 12:32 AM
kc - Why thankyou!

juicehoe - Thanks too bro! Yeah I know my chest is lagging, I think I may have been hitting it too hard in an attempt to catch it up and its backfired & I've ended up overtraining it - DOH!

flexer77
08-27-2004, 05:53 AM
I thought I'd post a few current pics, I know I've still got a long way to go, thats why I posted a few from april this year - to make the current ones look better!

I'm posting them now because I am just starting a six month GH run (my first) so I'll post pictures to show my progress every month or so during the cycle.

Any feedback on my progress so far would be welcome - just be gentle!
6 month of gh?
LOl!
maybe you are ready for a serious diet not for gh!!!

builtthekid
08-27-2004, 06:52 AM
Well man your not fat but you need to get more cardio in
actually alot of cardio you should also definetly work on your
chest and traps.

drdeath613
08-27-2004, 07:12 AM
flexer77 for someone who has 3 post and not enough balls to post a pic u should keep your mouth shut i for one think he did a hell of a job hes looking very good for that short amount of time WAY TO GO NOTSMALL keep it up bro

builtthekid
08-27-2004, 07:23 AM
Hell man he improved alot and I definetly think that he still
has a ways to go before hes ready for competition. But as
of now he is looking good for the amount of time hes been training.

slizzut
08-27-2004, 07:59 AM
Great work bro. Flexer you read the topic wrong.. it says "Progress so far this year, now for GH!" Meaning he wants to use GH now.

NotSmall: Great work man, you worked real hard and it shows, keep it up!

muff-chaser
08-27-2004, 10:27 AM
you look a 100 percent better!keep training hard

NotSmall
08-27-2004, 10:27 AM
flexer77 - How do you think I got from the before to the after without a 'serious diet'? I also acknowledged the fact that I had a long way to go yet in my first post, I put the pictures up as a reference so I could post further pictures every couple of months as I improve. Oh yeah, and just who the **** are you to tell me I'm not ready for GH?

builtthekid - I am doing the cardio and the fat is still coming off, I'll get there! Yeah I know my chest needs improvement and I haven't been able to shrug heavy for a while cos I tweaked my neck so my traps have gone down, I'm not too bothered though cos once my necks better they'll soon pop back up again - my traps grow pretty easy when I train them. I appreciate you saying I've improved alot but as for competition, well I'll take it as a compliment that you thought I might be thinking of competing but I have no plans to compete ever - I just like trying to improve myself.

drdeath613 & slizzut - Thanks for the encouragement guys! Don't worry, I'm not phased by what that little faggot flexer77 said, I know I'm still a little flabby and even though I pointed it out myself there was always gonna be some cheap shots!

NotSmall
08-27-2004, 10:32 AM
muff-chaser - Thanks bro I will! It took alot for me to build up the balls to post some pics cos I have still got a long way to go but the encouragement I've got from you and some of the other bros is a real confidence booster - just wait till you see my next pics, I guarantee even greater improvements!

DEVLDOG
08-27-2004, 11:38 AM
**** BRO,thats a hell of a transformation since april,i can tell from the pix that you are now dedicated...goodluck with the GH and keep us posted...are you running anything with it??....good job bro :dg:

FLEXOR 77 POST YOUR PIX BRO,SO WE CAN SEE WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE AND TO SEE IF YOUR OPINION IS EVEN VALUED

NotSmall
08-27-2004, 12:02 PM
DEVLDOG - Thanks bro, I was sh1tscared of the reaction I would get when I posted these pics so all the compliments mean a hell of a lot to me!

I am completely dedicated now, as you say, to the point that I have been accused of being obsessed, which I probably am, but at least its better than my last obsession - drinking beer!

I started the GH at 2iu ed in wk 8 of my 12 week test, deca & winny cycle and will run it right through PCT, and through the 6 weeks off roids, then up it to 4iu ed for my 12 week test, tren, primo & winny cycle and 6 weeks after that. I'm probably also going to run LR3 IGF-1 through PCT of both cycles and maybe for 4 weeks while I'm on cycle. I'm also constantly cycling between clen & ECA with occasional runs of T4s to keep stripping off the fat.

I'll post pics every 2 months or so, I don't want to post them too regularly so that theres a real difference between each set.

Z-Ro
08-27-2004, 01:25 PM
your looking good man, thats nice progress, i can't wait to see the before/after GH pics!

flexer, the man can take GH whenever he pleases

NotSmall
08-27-2004, 03:32 PM
Z-Ro - Thanks bro, I can't wait to see them either!

Auctoris
08-27-2004, 04:24 PM
U absolutely look much better, keep the good work up :clapping:

NotSmall
08-27-2004, 05:16 PM
Auctoris - Thanks bro!

I thought I'd add a few calf shots, my calves used to be bigger but I haven't trained them in a while because I'm running every other day.

mayhem229
08-27-2004, 06:57 PM
killer progress!!!!....the diet comment ...ummm ok maybe .....GH @ 6 mo....isint that a little long?? (I dunno Ive never done GH) Keep pounding the legs and keep hittin the delts upper chest is coming along good.keep it up

thickmass
08-28-2004, 03:14 AM
flexer77 for someone who has 3 post and not enough balls to post a pic u should keep your mouth shut i for one think he did a hell of a job hes looking very good for that short amount of time WAY TO GO NOTSMALL keep it up bro

Do you condone his use of gh when he hardly looks like he juices?

NotSmall
08-28-2004, 03:20 AM
thickmass - I hardly look like I juice? - Thats a little harsh, I know my chest is seriously lagging but surely I don't look that feeble?

Besides, whats one got to do with the other really? Plenty of people use GH who don't even juice at all.

thickmass
08-28-2004, 07:11 AM
thickmass - I hardly look like I juice? - Thats a little harsh, I know my chest is seriously lagging but surely I don't look that feeble?

Besides, whats one got to do with the other really? Plenty of people use GH who don't even juice at all.

Ok call me a renegade but its all screwed.

If thats your rationale for wasting money on gh when you're not even a competitive bodybuilder then the Government was right banning steroids and gh. Next we'll have fat arsed women doin gH because "everybody does".

This used to be a good board where rational advice was dished out.

Now all you see is guys sucking up to ppl posting pics and encouraging them to juice from day 1 and use HGH from day 3.

steggs
08-28-2004, 07:39 AM
bring the chest up and youll be doing superb bro

BiggerBri2002
08-28-2004, 09:21 AM
Awesome job man....I am very impressed.

NotSmall
08-28-2004, 10:44 AM
thickmass - I had a look at your pictures and now I see what the attitude is all about - I'm just not hairy enough for your taste, sorry bro I'll get a chest wig and post some more pics just for you!

And now your saying that steroids and GH are for competitive bodybuilders only?
If I want to use GH to help shed some more fat, hold onto more of my gains between cycles and maybe even tighten up some loose skin left over from my fatter days I don't see that as a waste of money - sh1t I'm not asking you to pay for it!

steggs & BiggerBri2002 - Thanks guys! I needed that after hairymass's demoralising rant - of course according to him you're "sucking up" to me.

BiggerBri2002
08-28-2004, 01:01 PM
Let me know how the GH works for tightening up skin and fat removal.

Gaucho77
08-28-2004, 01:14 PM
Great job bro, amazing transformation. Looks like you have a lot of power in those arms.

NotSmall
08-28-2004, 01:31 PM
BiggerBri2002 - Yeah will do bro, another little side benefit I'm hoping for is the fading of stretchmarks, I have loads and GH is supposed to be great for skin elasticity and thickness.

I ran a search on stretchmarks and found this post by Ulter (vet) from back in 2001:

"It may be more than you want spend but gh has helped my stretchmarks quite a bit and mine are over 10 years old. One of the properties of gh is that it thickens your skin and one of the first things I noticed when I started was that my stretchmarks had faded. Aside from fat burning and very minor muscle growth all the affects it has had on the way my skin looks have been well worth it to me."

Gaucho77 - Thanks bro, I appreciate it!

anteriordeltoid
08-28-2004, 04:33 PM
kc - I think I may have been hitting it too hard in an attempt to catch it up and its backfired & I've ended up overtraining it - DOH!

there's no such thing as overtraining. there's only under-eating.

nsa
08-28-2004, 05:36 PM
there's no such thing as overtraining. there's only under-eating.

Ummm, Its easy to become overzealous in your attempt to get bigger and overtrain...

anteriordeltoid
08-28-2004, 05:48 PM
no. You cannot overtrain a muscle. You can only under-eat, which will not let the muscle grow. Our bodies are still made like our ancestors from millions of years ago. Our body and muscles are made to survive in a jungle...hunting down our food on foot, climbing places, running away from predators....day after day. Our muscles are not made to sit in an sl500, drive to the gym and do 20 sets, then go to a restaurant and tell yourself you "overtrained."

nothing personal at all to you nsa, but i don't think you know the limits of the body and its muscles.

UNDER EATING...NOT OVERTRAINING.

BDTR
08-28-2004, 06:11 PM
I eat 6000 cals a day, 600+ protien and so on. I shoot a lot of gear. From experience, I CAN overtrain. Sure it takes more, but it can be done.

no. You cannot overtrain a muscle. You can only under-eat, which will not let the muscle grow. Our bodies are still made like our ancestors from millions of years ago. Our body and muscles are made to survive in a jungle...hunting down our food on foot, climbing places, running away from predators....day after day. Our muscles are not made to sit in an sl500, drive to the gym and do 20 sets, then go to a restaurant and tell yourself you "overtrained."

nothing personal at all to you nsa, but i don't think you know the limits of the body and its muscles.

UNDER EATING...NOT OVERTRAINING.

angelxterminator
08-29-2004, 12:02 AM
great progress bro. you should be proud of yourself, that is quite the transformation... i think after this GH cycle your early pics comared to after cycle pics will be devistatingly different.

slizzut
08-29-2004, 12:36 AM
What was your diet/training/supplement use like? How old are you and how tall are you?

thickmass
08-29-2004, 01:00 AM
How about clen or T# for fat burning.

or even cardio?

Just because I dont wax every day like a homersexual doesnt make my advice any less useful.

GH... pfft! why not do liposuction - much cheaper and more effective

NotSmall
08-29-2004, 03:18 AM
angelxterminator - Thanks bro, the encouragement means alot to me, it did take alot for me to get the balls to post the pics. And yeah I can't wait to see my progress over the next 6 months, I'll keep you guys posted!

slizzut -
Diet:
300g prot, 150g carbs a day, sunday - friday.
250g prot, 250g carbs on saturday.
Split up over 8 small meals a day, vast majority of carbs breakfast & PWO, no carbs last 2 meals.
I know the prot is low, I will soon be upping it to 400g.

Training:
Monday: Chest, delts, abs
Tuesday: 45min run before breakfast
Wednesday: Back, abs.
Thursday: 45min run before breakfast
Friday: Arms, delts, abs.
Saturday: 45min run before breakfast
Sunday: Rest.
As you've probably noticed - no legs. If I train legs they struggle to recover with all that running which is a priority right now. Also, although you can't tell from the pics my legs are pretty chunky, I'll soon catch them up once I'm happy with my bf%.

Supplements:
All the usual multi vits, b vits, fish oils, chondoitrin + glucosimine + MSM (I don't want to phuck my knees up with all the running), evening primrose oil (heigtens sensitivity to ECA), whey, creatine, whey & micellar casein zero carb mix for bedtime, I'm constantly cycling between clen & ECA with occasional runs of T4.

I'm just towards the end of a test, deca & winstrol cycle.

In november I start this cycle,
GH increased to 4iu ed
Wks 1-3 250mg Test prop eod
Wks 1-10 250mg Test enan eod
Wks 1-8 75mg Tren eod
Wks 1-11 100mg Primo eod
Wks 8-12 50mg Winstrol eod
Wks 1-15 20mg Nolva ed
Wks 10-13 500iu HCG ew
Wks 13-14 100mg Clomid ed
Wk 15 50mg Clomid ed
Wks 13-16 LR3 IGF-1 50mcg PWO bilaterally in muscle worked.

I am 26, 6'2", 245lb.

thickmass -
How about clen or T# for fat burning.
As I said above (post no.14) yes I am using clen & T4s

or even cardio?
I run for 45 mins 3 days a week

Just because I dont wax every day like a homersexual doesnt make my advice any less useful.
Relax, I was only playing, besides whats a homersexual? - Someone with a Simpsons fetish? Oh, and what advice? All you did was run me down and compare me to a "fat arsed woman" - very helpful!

GH... pfft! why not do liposuction - much cheaper and more effective
Don't think I didn't toy with the idea but, 1. I don't think its cheaper, 2. Call me a ***** but I don't fancy surgery, maybe a tummy tuck further down the line when all else fails, 3. You don't get all the other benefits that GH brings.

AandF6969
09-07-2004, 12:20 PM
Just because I dont wax every day like a homersexual doesnt make my advice any less useful.


What's "homersexual" about hair removal? If youre referring to giving a $hit about your appearance at all being "homersexual" then I guess we're all "homersexuals" because isn't bodybuilding all about how you look?


Friday: Arms, delts, abs.


I really hope you don't do arms before you do delts on this day...

Yeah probably. (although I'm gay myself I would never tell a guy to shave off all his bodyhair just because I thought I could see his muscles better).

WTF??? You come on here calling people "homersexuals" because they wax and shave, I'd say fvcking guys in the @ss makes you a little more of one bro! :lol:

Heres the link to where I got that quote http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113248

LeanMeOut
09-07-2004, 01:47 PM
What's "homersexual" about hair removal? If youre referring to giving a $hit about your appearance at all being "homersexual" then I guess we're all "homersexuals" because isn't bodybuilding all about how you look?



I really hope you don't do arms before you do delts on this day...



WTF??? You come on here calling people "homersexuals" because they wax and shave, I'd say fvcking guys in the @ss makes you a little more of one bro! :lol:

Heres the link to where I got that quote http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113248



:eek: :eek:

Spoon
09-07-2004, 08:18 PM
I thought I'd post a few current pics, I know I've still got a long way to go, thats why I posted a few from april this year - to make the current ones look better!

I'm posting them now because I am just starting a six month GH run (my first) so I'll post pictures to show my progress every month or so during the cycle.

Any feedback on my progress so far would be welcome - just be gentle!


nice job!

NotSmall
09-08-2004, 01:04 AM
Spoon - Thanks bro!

anabolicwannabe
09-08-2004, 09:49 AM
just a question, is GH injected or swallowed.. i know nolva is available in tabs, but HCG and GH have this IU thing.. do we dissolve them under tongue, swallow, or inject?

and notsmall, you might not have the best body around, but you sure made **** good progress.

Rocket
09-08-2004, 05:47 PM
Nice work! Keep training and keep us posted.

Rocket

johnsomebody
09-08-2004, 10:29 PM
Here's just a suggestion -you need to get the pix taken from more like chest or higher level, and take them all consistently from that angle in the future to accurately gauge progress.

Anybody would have narrow shoulders and wide midsection with the camera at crotch level and looking up like you have it since it distorts so badly. You've obviously put on a lot of muscle, it's just the camera angle is making you look bad.

NotSmall
09-09-2004, 02:47 AM
anabolicwannabe - er, thanks I think...

Rocket - Thanks!

johnsomebody - Thanks bro, I like that theory! - I don't really think the pictures do me justice but I didn't want to say that as it sounds like excuses.

RidinHard
09-09-2004, 08:50 AM
wow..thats some **** progress..keep it up..

muff-chaser
09-09-2004, 10:56 AM
keep up the work

GetinBig
09-10-2004, 02:57 PM
That is some killer progress bro. Keep it up.

NotSmall
09-10-2004, 04:24 PM
RidinHard, muff-chaser & getinbig - Thanks guys, wait till you see the next set of pics!

brian11
09-10-2004, 04:59 PM
What's "homersexual" about hair removal? If youre referring to giving a $hit about your appearance at all being "homersexual" then I guess we're all "homersexuals" because isn't bodybuilding all about how you look?



I really hope you don't do arms before you do delts on this day...



WTF??? You come on here calling people "homersexuals" because they wax and shave, I'd say fvcking guys in the @ss makes you a little more of one bro! :lol:

Heres the link to where I got that quote http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=113248

:banana: has a whole different meaning for this guy...

Pics look great notsmall

Gaucho77
09-11-2004, 11:06 PM
I agree with the camera angle theory

Angelis
11-17-2004, 06:20 PM
Hey Bro.... great job youve inspired me. I was begining to lose hope I tried Diet and cardio and it hasnt been working right but now Ive got a better diet and im gonna be doing more cardio... anything I can do.

Tallon484
11-17-2004, 06:24 PM
I'm proud of you NotSmall.

Duck of Death
11-17-2004, 06:36 PM
....Hey, Notsmall - your progress is something to be proud of. Keep up the good fight!
As for HGH, I have been using it since early February and made some great progress using ONLY HGH. I then embarked on a Test cycle to go along with the HGH and did even better, but don't let anyone dissuade you from trying HGH alone - it is a great adjunct to training and a good diet!! (check out my thread "My HGH experience so far" on the "over 30" forum).

clockworks
11-17-2004, 08:39 PM
D@amn doode, awesome progress. Don't mind the haters, some people think that if you do a cycle or two and don't look like a pro bodybuilder that you suck and did something wrong...that couldn't be further from the truth. You did great and that kind of progress is something to be very proud of.

NotSmall
11-21-2004, 07:53 AM
Thanks for all the support from all you guys! :thumbsup:
I have been on the GH since then and have made more progress but I'm refraining from posting new pics till I finish my test, tren & primo cycle that I just started.
Duck of Death - Your thread was instrumental in my decision to use GH! :)
clockworks - Thanks bro! If by haters you mean that fag thickmass, don't worry he doesn't phase me, he's nothin' but a perv, click on his title and select "Find all posts by..." he's never out of the pics forum! Obviously he just didn't fancy me, never mind. :lol:

BajanBastard
11-21-2004, 08:10 AM
SO this is the man NOTSMALL! :D Fack the haters bro, that's some good progress, use the GH,alot of idiots on this board seem to beleive that GH is some super drug that only the pros should use.....anyway keep up the good work hit that chest and those traps, arms look killer.......try to find a way to hit your abs HARD.

NotSmall
11-21-2004, 08:51 AM
SO this is the man NOTSMALL! :D Fack the haters bro, that's some good progress, use the GH,alot of idiots on this board seem to beleive that GH is some super drug that only the pros should use.....anyway keep up the good work hit that chest and those traps, arms look killer.......try to find a way to hit your abs HARD.
Thanks bro! :)
I know what you mean about the GH, some people seem to think it's something you only 'graduate' to after a minimum of 10 AAS cycles.
My main focus at the moment is chest, traps are popping up nicely and for the first time in a long while my abs are just poking through!

*Narkissos*
11-21-2004, 12:12 PM
http://forums.anabolicreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38588&stc=1&thumb=1
Your progress isn't bad... but IMO it could've been done naturally.It really doesn't appear that you had a solid base prior to juicing...

Next we'll have fat arsed women doin gH because "everybody does".
This used to be a good board where rational advice was dished out.

Now all you see is guys sucking up to ppl posting pics and encouraging them to juice from day 1 and use HGH from day 3.

I can't flame you in response thickmass...cus i agree 100%

As you've probably noticed - no legs. If I train legs they struggle to recover with all that running which is a priority right now. Also, although you can't tell from the pics my legs are pretty chunky, I'll soon catch them up once I'm happy with my bf%.

From what you've listed above..it appears that you're running only 3 times a week... You're running gear.. not undergoing extreme caloric deprivation...really you have no excuse for not training legs.If running prevents recovery in your opinion..switch to another form of cardio that'll aide you in meeting your weight-loss goals... and suck it up and train legs...Not training legs is one of the biggest mistakes anyone trying to lose bodyfat can make.Besides...you're training delts twice and abs 3 times a week... and can't train legs ONCE? :?:

This reply isn't meant to discourage you or flame (en totale)..I'm just tired of the post-whoring "you look great" comments that flood the board.Truth is..you need work.You've made progress..but... IMO u could benefit from some direction.A negative-constructive comment (such as what thickmass was infering rather poorly) is more productive to you than all of these "o you're looking so good" comments.

~Nark

p.s.
I really hope you don't do arms before you do delts on this day...

Actually... logic would suggest that If he did Triceps first..followed by biceps.. followed by his lateral movements and did his shoulder presses last... training arms first wouldn't affect the quality of his shoulder workout.JMO BTW.It'd just be more physically and mentally fatiguing (i.e. harder)

there's no such thing as overtraining. there's only under-eating.
I actually believe that statement... certain conditions must be present tho IMO[b]

Our bodies are still made like our ancestors from millions of years ago. Our body and muscles are made to survive in a jungle...hunting down our food on foot, climbing places, running away from predators....day after day. Our muscles are not made to sit in an sl500, drive to the gym and do 20 sets, then go to a restaurant and tell yourself you "overtrained."

Good logic.. but flawed.The quality of nutrients differs between cave-man time and now.Our foods are leached.Our air is poisoned..as is our environment.Not meaning to hijack the topic tho..i think this should be another topic in itself..care to start it [b]anteriordeltoid?

AnabolicAlien
11-21-2004, 01:03 PM
you can flame me all you want but...

i don't think you're anywhere near ready for hgh and that you could've looked the way you do now naturally. yes, you've made some major gains but that doesn't now justify a hardcore and sophisticated cycle.

take a look at some others pics in this forum including myself. compare your body to ours and our cycles. maybe that'll change your mind.

i have an impressive amount of experience in bodybuilding, nutrition, and AAS.

i hope you make the smart decision.

A.A.

NotSmall
11-21-2004, 01:44 PM
It really doesn't appear that you had a solid base prior to juicing...
You're absolutely correct, I didn't. I received some very bad advice prior to finding this board. (From a 'friend' who just happened to be the guy selling me the juice.) But that is in the past now and I must carry on from where I am now - you live and learn.




[b]From what you've listed above..it appears that you're running only 3 times a week... You're running gear.. not undergoing extreme caloric deprivation...really you have no excuse for not training legs.If running prevents recovery in your opinion..switch to another form of cardio that'll aide you in meeting your weight-loss goals... and suck it up and train legs...Not training legs is one of the biggest mistakes anyone trying to lose bodyfat can make.Besides...you're training delts twice and abs 3 times a week... and can't train legs ONCE? :?:
Relax bro, I train legs now. As far as training delts twice a week - I wasn't hitting all 3 heads both times.




This reply isn't meant to discourage you or flame (en totale)..I'm just tired of the post-whoring "you look great" comments that flood the board.Truth is..you need work.You've made progress..but... IMO u could benefit from some direction.A negative-constructive comment (such as what thickmass was infering rather poorly) is more productive to you than all of these "o you're looking so good" comments.
I refer you to the title of the thread "Progress so far ....." I am well aware that I need work, I didn't title the thread "Check me out I look great!" did I?

NotSmall

johnsomebody
11-21-2004, 01:51 PM
Who here DOESN'T "need work"??

NotSmall
11-21-2004, 01:52 PM
you can flame me all you want but...

i don't think you're anywhere near ready for hgh and that you could've looked the way you do now naturally. yes, you've made some major gains but that doesn't now justify a hardcore and sophisticated cycle.

take a look at some others pics in this forum including myself. compare your body to ours and our cycles. maybe that'll change your mind.

i have an impressive amount of experience in bodybuilding, nutrition, and AAS.

i hope you make the smart decision.

A.A.
Ahhh, AnabolicAlien - the voice of reason! Aren't you the guy that did 3.5g of test a week - tell me that was necessary.

And just what is the criteria for deciding when someone is ready for GH?

NotSmall.

youknowme
11-21-2004, 01:54 PM
Some more pics soon ey'...lets see the progress you've made bro :)

NotSmall
11-21-2004, 01:58 PM
Some more pics soon ey'...lets see the progress you've made bro :)
Will post some more in the New Year bro when I've finished my current cycle.

AnabolicAlien
11-21-2004, 05:15 PM
NOTSMALL....

go ahead and do whatever you want. you obviously won't listen to "the voice of reason" anyway. i'd try to explain why i did so much test but frankly it would be so far over your head there would be no point.

the proof is in the pudding man. like i said before, check out others pics and their cycles. you'll find many who are in a lot better shape than you who are no where near trying GH yet.

i'm just trying to help you out. if you want to give me a shot about my cycle history fine - just take a look at my pics at the same time. best wishes.

A.A.

NotSmall
11-22-2004, 12:46 AM
NOTSMALL....

go ahead and do whatever you want. you obviously won't listen to "the voice of reason" anyway. i'd try to explain why i did so much test but frankly it would be so far over your head there would be no point.

the proof is in the pudding man. like i said before, check out others pics and their cycles. you'll find many who are in a lot better shape than you who are no where near trying GH yet.

i'm just trying to help you out. if you want to give me a shot about my cycle history fine - just take a look at my pics at the same time. best wishes.

A.A.
A.A.

Bro, I have seen your pics, they are very impressive. :)

As far as the reason for doing your high dose of test - I couldn't care less what your reason was, my point was that it wasn't exactly in line with popular opinion was it?

And as for the GH, yes there are lots of people who are in better shape than me who haven't tried it yet - so? One of my main reasons for GH is for its benefits to my skin, I have extensive stretch marks (and I mean extensive) and alot of loose skin,to my knowledge GH is the only thing that can help these things besides surgery. (I spoke to a vet - ulter, who told me GH faded his stretch marks to the point that they are barely visible) After 2 1/2 months on it my stretch marks are fading nicely and the loose skin is slowly tightening up. Obviously the fat loss and muscle gain were also very persuasive, what do you feel are the downsides of me doing it?

You still have not explained to me what your criteria is for deciding who is and who isn't ready for GH.

NotSmall.

AnabolicAlien
11-22-2004, 03:54 PM
i don't have time to type much but it makes more sense now. i'm considering it too mainly for my skin.

good luck.

A.A.

NotSmall
11-22-2004, 04:01 PM
i don't have time to type much but it makes more sense now. i'm considering it too mainly for my skin.

good luck.

A.A.
Thanks bro, :) it's not something I rushed into.

BajanBastard
11-22-2004, 05:17 PM
awwwww! A.A and notsmall how sweet......lol.....post more pics after your GH run bro.

stocky121
11-22-2004, 05:36 PM
nice tattoo notsmall and a big improvment since april i'll give you a look at my tat when i get some pic's sorted :D

AnabolicAlien
11-22-2004, 08:29 PM
just wanted to add that i could give you a list of what GH is indicated for but you and i both know that neither of us fit the criteria.

as good as u look, i think you could still make some great gains without any substances. i know i can as well.

i was thinking that for me, i'm going to train hard and eat right for a year. if i don't make some good gains after that and my acne doesn't clear then i'm going to jump on GH. i also want to wait a year so i can spend the money comfortably. from the research i've done so far i'd want to run 4 iu's/day with insulin.

what i said in an earlier post was kind of harsh but i'm glad you took it well.... and it was hypocritical now that i think about it. i just want you to do what's best for your body.

keep me posted, use PM's if you want.

A.A.

ArkansasAlex
11-22-2004, 08:38 PM
looking good bro, great improvment, gives me soemthign to think about, I am still way overweight, and trying to lean down, keep it up bro

Peace
alex

dr.shred
11-22-2004, 08:43 PM
great improvements bro keep it up!

-SHRED

NotSmall
11-23-2004, 03:03 AM
big k.l.g. - Don't get jealous, I got plenty of love for you too baby! :p
I will post more pics in the new year, if you need some in the mean time to keep you going PM me and I'll sort you out! :lol:

stocky121 - Thanks bro :) , I'm thinking of getting the same design on the opposite upper arm/shoulder. Post pics of your ink dude.

AnabolicAlien - Don't sweat it bro, I'm pretty thick skinned (must be the GH! :lol: )
I know what you're saying about making natural gains but I bet in reality maybe 2% of the members of this board actually hit their natural potential before juicing.
Let us know how your photo shoot goes!

ArkansasAlex - Thanks bro! :thumbsup: Stick at it, you'll get there. I know what it's like when you first start out, your goal just seems so far away but if you stay consistant and keep making little changes, tightening up your diet a little bit each week, you will make progress.

dr.shred - Thanks man, I appreciate it!

JoeyJuice
12-01-2004, 02:19 PM
probally on of the best real transformations ive seen on this board, nice work! gh will help alot