18 yrs old whatcha think?

[Natural1]

This pic is after I broke my arm so i have shrunk down even more than this! What do you think? :unsure:

[R.Gotti]

I cant really tell. any more pics

[Natural1]

no i cant find my digital camera so until i do this is all i have

[Britguy]

well u look like you've decent shape and low bodyfat, keep plugging away and stay lean, u look good to me, keep that leaness thats probably one of your strengths,

[Natural1]

leaness, i was on a cruise in that pic. I was eating like 20 times a day, i look fat in that pic.

[Gaucho77]

Arma look great, only thing I would say is concentrate on your chest.

[1-Cent]

What are your stats?

[anabolicwannabe]

yeah, your arms look good, but your chest can use more work from what i can tell in the pic. but probably you're too fair, so i can't see the "lines" of your chest.

[tony1leg]

i agree, bro you look lean and good but i would suggest that if incline isn't in your routine, do it
no flame just my 2 cents

[SwoleCat]

Need more pics to make an accurate evaluation.

1) LEGS
2) Back
3) Full front
4) Full back

~SC~

[ChiTownTommy]

Don't be afraid of the sun it won't kill you any time soon.

[Natural1]

Don't be afraid of the sun it won't kill you any time soon.

Hey easy now im irish nothin i can do about that. lol What would be a good chest work out to build my upper and middle of my chest i have tried but nothing will build the inside. Im working on new pics trying to find camera, but from this pic alone do i have good enough of a base to start aas, debating on omna?

[Natural1]

What are your stats?

My stats are nothing recent because i have been out for a couple of months recovering from a broken arm but last max was
18yrs old, 6', 185lbs, 12% bf
Bench: 255
Clean:260
squat: 460

[ChiTownTommy]

My stats are nothing recent because i have been out for a couple of months recovering from a broken arm but last max was
18yrs old, 6', 185lbs, 12% bf
Bench: 255
Clean:260
squat: 460
those are all around solid stats for youyr size.
Just giving you a hard time, but serously go outside every now and then, sun is good for you :lol:

[AandF6969]

Hows your diet look?

[Natural1]

Hows your diet look?

Diet, whats that?lol j/p um right now its lookin pretty rough cause im not working out again...yet. but hopefully if my arm feels good i am going to try to get back into it this week. Can u help me with a diet. :scratch:

[AandF6969]

Theres good advice in the diet forum... stickys with sample diets also

[Skinz]

Hey easy now im irish nothin i can do about that. lol What would be a good chest work out to build my upper and middle of my chest i have tried but nothing will build the inside. Im working on new pics trying to find camera, but from this pic alone do i have good enough of a base to start aas, debating on omna?

Wait to start AAS, your still young. You have plenty of time for that. You have a good base but stick to being natural bro. Trust me on that one. Im sure alot of brothers would agree on that :lift:

[SMYL_GR8]

True that. I've been pondering AAS for five years now. Wouldn't even consider it before 25.

[Natural1]

yeah, i never really thought about them too much until about 6 months ago because i was at a plateau on everything. Nothing would go up. Then 2 months ago i broke my arm so its just been on my mind because its going to be near impossibe to get back to where i was....then i have to try to get bigger. Im lookin at atleast a year natural. Does anyone know any legal supps that are pretty effective?

-natural1

[anabolicwannabe]

whey protein.

[DOUGTM1SS]

Natural 1 you think that way you'll never get anywhere, you need to modivate yourself
surround yourself with positive things and people, not ones who question your goals or who put you down, due to their own ignorance.

[DOUGTM1SS]

Natural 1 you think that way you'll never get anywhere, you need to modivate yourself
surround yourself with positive things and people, not ones who question your goals or who put you down, due to their own ignorance.

[DOUGTM1SS]

Natural 1 you think that way you'll never get anywhere, you need to modivate yourself
surround yourself with positive things and people, not ones who question your goals or who put you down, due to their own ignorance.

[Natural1]

Natural 1 you think that way you'll never get anywhere, you need to modivate yourself
surround yourself with positive things and people, not ones who question your goals or who put you down, due to their own ignorance.

yeah i know. Why did u write 3 times? :unsure:

[Natural1]

does any one know what i can do to separate my chest i have tried but cant seem to get an upper and mid chest.

[AustrianOAK14]

try sum test and dbol for your chest bro

[IronAdam]

try sum test and dbol for your chest bro :rolleyes:

What helped my chest was heavy incline bench, heavy flat DB presses, weighted dips and low cable cross overs. Improving your upper chest is the best way improve the appearance of it. Flat DB presses for mid chest, and weighted dips for lower. The low cable cross overs are one of my favorite, the pump is great if nothing else is gained from it.

I know how hard it can be to get back in the game after breaking something...My advice on that is to get back in shape naturally, focus on your diet and spend your time researching AAS so you know your SHlT when it comes time to take them.

Goodluck

[anteriordeltoid]

does any one know what i can do to separate my chest i have tried but cant seem to get an upper and mid chest.

basically, you need to do the opposite of what everyone else is doing...and what everyone else is doing is wrong- which is flat bench exercises all day every workout, and once in a while they decide to just throw in an incline exercise.

when steve michalik told me arnold and him used to do 90% incline exercises for there workouts, i was shocked. but i tried it, doing sets and sets and pounding out reps on incline flyes and presses for weeks and weeks. the results i got were so incredible with that. i still stick to that now and i will always believe that incline exercises are the best chest builders.

how many guys have u seen with huge lower pecs but no upper pecs? i dunno about you, but i've seen a LOT.

[LightWeightBaby]

from what i see you look good

[Natural1]

from what i see you look good

thanks, wish i could agree :(

anteriordeltoid- what did you find better incline DB or just incline bench and for flat bench which is better.

australianoak14-yeah might get some in a bit, idont want to start too fast and FVck something up in my arm.


ironadam-yeah thanks thats what alot of people have said and ill probally just hold off on aas but one day........ :lift: hopefully by then i get back to my normal size.

-any advice from anyone on getting alittle more cut

[anteriordeltoid]

anteriordeltoid- what did you find better incline DB or just incline bench and for flat bench which is better.


i workout by myself most of the time so doing incline dumbells would be dangerous and downright stupid, especially cause i go real heavy on them too. so i usually alternate between barbell inclines and smith inclines. but once in a while, i train with someone at the gym and thats when i take advantage of using dumbells.

for hitting the middle and lower pecs, i actually find that i get a better squeeze, contraction and muscle stimulation from doing seated flat chest exercises rather than lying down on a bench. the seated bench press machines allow for a long range of motion and give me a far better pump than doing it lying down.

don't forget about flat dumbell flyes though, as arnold said the flyes were the "single most effective exercise i ever done" in an issue of muscle and fitness in july. get a huge stretch on the flyes, widen the chest, it's always the bottom portion of the flyes that are most important, not the top where people love to be.

[Natural1]

yeah i agree with most of that but i never get anything out of seated bench. :unsure: i feel it strictly in triceps and can never get wide enough to actually feel it in my chest.

[Surferboy]

Need more pics to make an accurate evaluation.

1) LEGS
2) Back
3) Full front
4) Full back

~SC~



Always the first to mention that someone forgot to put some legs in their pictures. That makes me laugh everytime I hear it! I think alot of guys neglect their legs and don't want to take pictures of them. My best friend was huge up top; big chest, 18.5" arms, wide back...but he always worked out in pants because he had a bad case of the chicken legs. I'm surprised they haven't just snapped in half!

[Cuttup]

good base to build from,..stay natural though,..as long as possible

[Natural1]

good base to build from,..stay natural though,..as long as possible

thanks cuttup

surferboy-workin on those pics

[Natural1]

good base to build from,..stay natural though,..as long as possible

thanks cuttup

surferboy-workin on those pics

[Magicz]

since when u started training?

[Natural1]

since when u started training?

What? How long have i been training? Is that what u are asking
:unsure:

[jimmyivory]

when steve michalik told me arnold and him used to do 90% incline exercises for there workouts, i was shocked. but i tried it, doing sets and sets and pounding out reps on incline flyes and presses for weeks and weeks. the results i got were so incredible with that. i still stick to that now and i will always believe that incline exercises are the best chest builders.

how many guys have u seen with huge lower pecs but no upper pecs? i dunno about you, but i've seen a LOT.

how do you feel about decline bench and flys? I'm real new at this (my pecs make his look dope) and figured decline would give me the best bang for the buck since it does work the lower pec. Once I get more confidence in my shoulder joints I'll start doing incline for sure, but once I start doing that should I greatly decrease the time I'm spending on decline? I just want the most noticeable overall change possible.

You look pretty good man, I'm not gonna get super hardcore and you look near what my goal is. If you want to loose that bf it's probably gonna take some cardio.

[Rocket]

Looking Good, Get that arm back in action and train away!

Rocket

[TRLS63]

how do you feel about decline bench and flys? I'm real new at this (my pecs make his look dope) and figured decline would give me the best bang for the buck since it does work the lower pec. Once I get more confidence in my shoulder joints I'll start doing incline for sure, but once I start doing that should I greatly decrease the time I'm spending on decline? I just want the most noticeable overall change possible.

You look pretty good man, I'm not gonna get super hardcore and you look near what my goal is. If you want to loose that bf it's probably gonna take some cardio.

IMO decline is a total waste of time, it hit too much muscle. like anterior said, you should focus your chest day on incline. i dont split it up like arnold, mine looks more like 50% incline/50% flat. before that i was part of the no upper pec crew :blush:

[Dally]

funny that you say that, because my upper chest never really started to grow until after decline was incorporated. I figured it was from my delts taking most of the punishment.

If you lie on a slight incline and and contract high or like you WERE doing a to the neck press you can feel the decline contract the upper chest VERY WELL> at least I did.

but, each and every ones different.. so :unsure:

[Natural1]

Hey im starting to get back to the gym now and i was wondering if someone can get me started on a good bulking workout looking to gain weight and put on alot of size can someone help me out. :lift:

[gibsonlpsd]

check out the diet and workout forum...they have a TON of information to help you out. good luck bro.

[Natural1]

Based on the picture what kind of aas whould be recommended for size and strength.
another question is there any way to know if you are bound to get acne from aas and what can be done to prevent it.

[sgbenz]

nice frame and shoulders to start out with keep it up bro looking good

[Natural1]

nice frame and shoulders to start out with keep it up bro looking good

Thought this thread was dead :lol: jp thanks for the feedback man.

[aadrenaline]

dude is that royal caribbean cruise line...lol

[Natural1]

na it was celebrity