Awnold's pics

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

Hi guys. I'm floating between 225 and 230lbs in these pics. I am going to start my first cycle soon and I'm excited about it to see how well I do.

Cheers.

[lucabratzi]

def. thick ass hell. traps arms and shoulders lookin real good.. but ur chest needs some more work. wheel pics?

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

No leg pics yet. Yeah, my chest has always been a tough go for me. Could be just genetic limitations I don't know.....I've been training quite low volume with it. Perhaps a higher volume routine is in order.

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

I refuse to belive that you are natty, 1426% sure just from your 1st pic cmon bro....


I'm natural. Good genetics I guess. (except for me chest). I'm starting my first cycle soon.

[lucabratzi]

good luck with the cycle. how about ur back, it in proportion with the rest of u

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

good luck with the cycle. how about ur back, it in proportion with the rest of u


Yeah...I have a good back pic somewhere. It's grown in proportion too. My chest is really what needs to be brought up. It's always bugged the hell outta me on how to do this too..lol. My calves need work too. I've been lazy with them in the past.

I've just got into taking pics and really getting serious. I've really gotten on the ball with my diet and training especially now that I'm going to start a cycle. I've been training H.I.T. forever and a day now. Modified versions of it....now I'm using a more genuine H.I.T. routine but I may be switching to max OT style of training....possibly even back to a traditional higher volume routine for my chest.

I can't wait to see myself after the cycle tho.....Regardless of my chest being a little underdeveloped in comparason to the rest of me I think I've done very well for a natural so far.

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

Not natty............................................. ......... :?:


Thank you for your opinion. I'll take it as a compliment.

[Rob]

Why do people always jump on others accusing them of not being natural?

If he says he is, take it for what it is...why would he lie?

There are alot of physiques that are natural, that look terrific, believe it or not.

[Rob]

So..you doubt everyone who posts pics then?

[angelxterminator]

Why does anyone lie?

Ok im 430lbs and can bench 100000000000000kg ill post my pics of ronnie coleman i mean me tomorrow, if i say i am take it for what it is? :scratch:

Congrats, now stop acting like a pre-pubescent little boy and take what the man said at face value.

Why does your input matter anyway? You are blatantly over exaggerating this mans simple statement of being "natural" into a comparison to a ridiculous crock of shlt.

Grow up, I hope your banned just for being a douche.

[AVAGO]

Congrats, now stop acting like a pre-pubescent little boy and take what the man said at face value.

Why does your input matter anyway? You are blatantly over exaggerating this mans simple statement of being "natural" into a comparison to a ridiculous crock of shlt.

Grow up, I hope your banned just for being a douche.


Ok thanks for that i was going to say any way sorry if i come accross sh*tty but IMHO i just dont belive it. There was a thread a few weeks ago some one posted there pics every one BUMPED him for being thick etc 40 posts later hes slating everyone saying its not him and were all nubs for just jumping on the bandwagon.
As for me getting banned for saying i disagree with 1 post (i wasnt rude with my language and tried to be diplomatic in stateing my point)......I dont belive what people tell me from there face value as i have the ability to think for myself.(even tho its a bit hard a 3am)

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

In two months I'll put up my post cycle pics. Anyone have any ideas for help with my chest?

[AVAGO]

Thank you for your opinion. I'll take it as a compliment.


And it wasnt even taken badly. It is a massive compliment if you are natty IMO.

[angelxterminator]

Why does anyone lie?

Ok im 430lbs and can bench 100000000000000kg ill post my pics of ronnie coleman i mean me tomorrow, if i say i am take it for what it is? :scratch:

That wasn't coming across as a sarcastic @sshole?

I believe it truly was. You wont be banned, I just said that. You have a right to your opinion, it was how you expressed it that made me say what I did.

BTW...its ok, your not a douche :lol:

[AVAGO]

That wasn't coming across as a sarcastic @sshole?

I believe it truly was. You wont be banned, I just said that. You have a right to your opinion, it was how you expressed it that made me say what I did.

BTW...its ok, your not a douche :lol:




good i dont want to be french for shower :lol:



:cheers:

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

Aww feel the love in my thread. Now people, let's help Awnold bring his chest up to par and get freaky. I've got the next two months of training planned out with Max OT routines. Working in four week blocks. From evaluating the pics I can really see my lower chest needs to be brought up......especially the outer areas. Thanks to the guy who pointed it out too....I forget who it was and I'm too lazy to look...lol. I really want to nail this as I don't want this cycle to be a complete waste.

I've been training H.I.T. and my strength is increasing however I'm really wanting to get into bodybuilding competitions so any ideas and opinions are welcome.....

[jollygreenGIANT]

**** bro lookin good...keep us updated on the cycle..what r u goin to be running by the way?? good luck on ur cycle

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

**** bro lookin good...keep us updated on the cycle..what r u goin to be running by the way?? good luck on ur cycle

dbol and deca

I'm starting off with 10mg. a day with the dbol and pyramiding up to 30 or 40. I'm taking it slow as I want to see how my body reacts. I'm working witha good friend of mine who is helping me run this cycle.

Thanks for the props. I think if I put my heart and soul into it I can do really well with bodybuilding.

[Rob]

you need test bro

[BUBBA74]

If you dont mind me asking.
Whats your height?

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

If you dont mind me asking.
Whats your height?



Not at all. I'm 5'10

[lucabratzi]

bro def. get some test c. in there. d-bol will get u mad strong but alot of the gains are water retention and u lose it after the cycle. deca is good but u gotta stack some test. or u wont be gettin laid anytime soon. deca dick. plus gains will be so much better. u got pct. ready.

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

bro def. get some test c. in there. d-bol will get u mad strong but alot of the gains are water retention and u lose it after the cycle. deca is good but u gotta stack some test. or u wont be gettin laid anytime soon. deca dick. plus gains will be so much better. u got pct. ready.

Cash is a little tight but you guys are right.

Clomid is on hand for pct.

Thanks for the help guys.

[jollygreenGIANT]

dbol and deca

I'm starting off with 10mg. a day with the dbol and pyramiding up to 30 or 40. I'm taking it slow as I want to see how my body reacts. I'm working witha good friend of mine who is helping me run this cycle.

Thanks for the props. I think if I put my heart and soul into it I can do really well with bodybuilding.

no prob bro...ur probably gonna hear this a lot on this board but its 100% true...u need test for reasons regarding the sides from deca (deca dick), but ull also benefit greatly in terms of gains with some test IMO

[jollygreenGIANT]

bro def. get some test c. in there. d-bol will get u mad strong but alot of the gains are water retention and u lose it after the cycle. deca is good but u gotta stack some test. or u wont be gettin laid anytime soon. deca dick. plus gains will be so much better. u got pct. ready.

lol disregard...beat me to the punch

[KGBnine]

Ok thanks for that i was going to say any way sorry if i come accross sh*tty but IMHO i just dont belive it. There was a thread a few weeks ago some one posted there pics every one BUMPED him for being thick etc 40 posts later hes slating everyone saying its not him and were all nubs for just jumping on the bandwagon.
As for me getting banned for saying i disagree with 1 post (i wasnt rude with my language and tried to be diplomatic in stateing my point)......I dont belive what people tell me from there face value as i have the ability to think for myself.(even tho its a bit hard a 3am)

Good job with the hijack. :rolleyes:

Back to the issue at hand. You have a good base bro. I think it is believable that you are natural.

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

I was looking at a posted "novice cycle" on the main page with included dbol, deca, and test e. I think I'm still a little confused with the diferent test's. Now maybe I'm just talking out of my ass...lol, but my thinking along the lines of using dbol was keeping it mild. I'm not looking for magic gains overnight. I am only going to use as little as neccessary and with my diet and proper training plus low dosages my thinking is yes, some gains will be lost but the overall net gains will still be there. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm working witha good friend of mine who has used thsi same cycle and was able to keep quite a bit of his gains....he unfortunately just fell out of bodybuilding so to speak.

[KGBnine]

I think a good low/moderate dose cycle would be 25mg dbol weeks 1-4 along with a single ester test such as cypionate @ 500 mg per week(1-13). THat would be excellent for a first cycle. You could also add deca @ 400mg per week (1-12) if you wanted to. Good luck.

[SMYL_GR8]

That third pic looks like the opening scene to some gay porn. . . I should know. :lol:

[Rob]

That third pic looks like the opening scene to some gay porn. . . I should know. :lol:

lol, and how is that?

[lucabratzi]

imo. if cash is tight u should wait and save up, if its ur first cycle ur gonna wanna do it right and get the most gains out of it. what axe laid out for a cycle is exactly what u should do. but keep us posted and def. give some pics of when ur on.

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

I think a good low/moderate dose cycle would be 25mg dbol weeks 1-4 along with a single ester test such as cypionate @ 500 mg per week(1-13). THat would be excellent for a first cycle. You could also add deca @ 400mg per week (1-12) if you wanted to. Good luck.

I'm going to look into that....this cycle was really just aimed at seeing how my body reacts to a low dosage and shorter cycle. We were planning on running 8 weeks to start. Thanks for the advice though....definately things to consider. I'm still thinking that if I keep my doses low enough, Ill be able to come off much easier and keep a higher percentage of my gains. Again, I apologize if I am speaking out of my ass...

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

imo. if cash is tight u should wait and save up, if its ur first cycle ur gonna wanna do it right and get the most gains out of it. what axe laid out for a cycle is exactly what u should do. but keep us posted and def. give some pics of when ur on.


well...it's actually not THAT tight....I suppose, being that it's my first time, I'm still somewhat nervous about it. Excited but nervous. I'm going to talk to my buddy about it some more too.

[SwoleCat]

I believe that you are natural. Why your look seems unachievable naturally to some, I've no idea. Perhaps some of their own limitations surface or something like that and the stones are then hurled.

Anyhow, good base for sure! :)

~SC~

[Juddman]

I don't know what that trash was earlier about you not being natural...you look good bro. Some people prob wouldn't believe I was natural either by my pics pre-cycle, I've been accused many times before I even thought about gear. Take it as a compliment.
Good luck bro.

[XxElitexX]

Avago- how is that physique not doable to obtain naturally?



you are very thick...bring up the chest and lose the hair on the chest, get a tan and you should look awesome. good work bro.

[roidpuple]

look good I agree chest looks good but needs a little more...
you are a harry bastard though...

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

I get rid of the hair once in awhile....I'm just lazy with that tho.

[Juddman]

I get rid of the hair once in awhile....I'm just lazy with that tho.

Worry about that later bro...get the chest built up and you'll be ready to go.

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

Going to a mx-OT routine. Flat bench...3X4-6, Incline Bench 2X 4-6, Decline bench 3 X 4-6.

[Juddman]

For me, moderate reps work well for size. Max reps for density. I would do what you have there, but with slightly higher reps like 6-8, and add a flye movement. But thats just me.

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

I'll be switching every 4 weeks or so. I may go to a bit higher rep range. It's been a while since I've used higher reps so that might be a good thing.

[Joey2ness]

So..you doubt everyone who posts pics then?
its obvious someone who post pics on steroid.coms forum
has done steroids or is planning on it
after all its a steroid site
its says forums.sterid.com

[SMYL_GR8]

For me, moderate reps work well for size. Max reps for density. I would do what you have there, but with slightly higher reps like 6-8, and add a flye movement. But thats just me.

Correct. You must fatigue those pecs and shock them. Drop sets, Giant sets, pre-exhaust to really shock the pecs into growth.

[Britguy]

thick as a mofo bro! lookin good, traps from hell!

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

Thanks a lot guys for all your props and advice. I'm most likely going to just run the dbol and deca and I'm sure a few of you will be shaking your heads at that but I do appreciate the advice.

As for my chest routine, the first phase will be flat, incline, and decline presses. I may do flat, decline, superset with flys, and then incline.....in that order. I've never used any real advanced training techniques for my chest before. Guess it's time to really let go of the ego. Lately, using H.I.T. I'm only doing 2 sets for chest....pec deck flys superset with incline press and I dropped my incline presses back to 225lbs. I was pushing up to 300lbs for reps before that but that pre-exhaust was killer. BUT each workout was getting stronger. My first workout I could hit 6 reps on the incline with that weight...second workout.....8 reps.....third workout, 8 reps with 250lbs....

Actually everything was going up however I am moving back towards a more traditional style of routine. Anyways.....thank you again guys. I'm sure I'll have some questions here and there to pick your brains with. Nice to come to a board where everyone is supportive and is able to offer constructive critisism. In comparison to your "average" person, my chest is huge but in comparison to the rest of me it's lagging. and I'm gonna be busting my ass off to bring it up. I'm gonna start a photo training journal too, I think and post a link to it aas well.

Cheers

[Juddman]

Do what you gotta do bro. Good luck!

[Juddman]

If you get negative sides from the "testless" cycle, don't hesitate to throw some in there.

[Awnoldschwarzenegger]

If you get negative sides from the "testless" cycle, don't hesitate to throw some in there.

Thanks bro. I'm going to takl to my friend again and see what we can do.

[*Narkissos*]

Not natty............................................. ......... :?:

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IMO i don't believe that posts such as these reflect positively on the image we portray on AR... AND...as they were directed towards a new user, i believe that they even more discouraging to those perusing the sit...thinking about joining

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[*Narkissos*]

I'll echo the sentiment expressed by the Bros who preceded me:

Solid for sure bro. More pics would be necessary for a better analysis... but from what i can see you look good..especially tru the shoulder girdle (i.e. solid traps and squared delt heads)

Keep at it...and inform us of the cycle's progress

[AVAGO]

I believe that you are natural. Why your look seems unachievable naturally to some, I've no idea. Perhaps some of their own limitations surface or something like that and the stones are then hurled.

Anyhow, good base for sure! :)

~SC~



I think that is probably the point




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wow :eek:

[Jase]

Solid build, chest lags big time mate, great arms and delts, every heard of a razor, well use it!!

U will look a lot better, spend a little time in the sun bed, all in all you look great.
Well done keep it up

[BDTR]

Avago, i've deleted your posts. I hope to not see further behavior like that from you in the future. If he says he is natural, then i believe him. He's a big guy, no doubt, but ive seen natural people hit that size and bigger, my training partner being one of them.

[creepS]

Why do people always jump on others accusing them of not being natural?

If he says he is, take it for what it is...why would he lie?

There are alot of physiques that are natural, that look terrific, believe it or not.


my brother is even more thick than this bro is,and he NEVER ,EVER used any aas. hes been boxing/wrestling all his life and im sure he could take any of us juice monekys down :D
i dont this he is lying,no need.

[Monsoon says]

I have basically the same build as you natural as well, I have wider shoulders which makes my chest look smaller, so right now I'm focusing on chest to even out, and my legs are a decent size making my calves look smaller so im trying to catch those up with my legs just like you. You remind me of me but not quite, your a big boy Just try to even everything out and youll be prestine.

[workdude]

Looking good...Good luck on your cycle...

[Latimus]

nice arms....work on the chest

[***xxx***]

good work bro, u seem to have good genetics.

[GetinBig]

Avago, i've deleted your posts. I hope to not see further behavior like that from you in the future. If he says he is natural, then i believe him. He's a big guy, no doubt, but ive seen natural people hit that size and bigger, my training partner being one of them.



Yeah BDTR your training partner is border line.. Your prolly sweating out Test and some is getting on him.. So he is prolly getting about 700mg a week.. Just from being close to you...... :lol: :elephant: :wg: :lol:

[S.P.G]

look bad as hell man, keep going......