Real Norma Deca..!

[[[SAaF]]]

is this real...????
the stopper is grey,and the loggo red!!

[Geriguy]

No. It's fake! The serbian fakers made it like the lot 0311030.
it is fake because:
-grey stopper
-wrong E letter
-bad scrimp
-deca is good for 2 years (so it can't exp in 2007 07)
-wrong lot number (it should be something like this: 0507xxx)

Where are you live??? (in wich country?)

[[[SAaF]]]

a live in sweden

[Seajackal]

Hey Gery I'm affraid this isn't from the Serbian a$$holes, bro one
new look, the Serbian fakes have black rubber stoppers but you're
right about the crimps, lot numbers expiry date, letter "E", yes they
are fake SAaF! Sorry for you, bro get your money back!

[Geriguy]

There is one 0311030 and one 013292 on my desk.
Believe me. It is the same! And both stopper is gray (dark gray, but gray)!


and:
one more similarity:
the red logo is always behind the paper label. On real normas somtimes the label doesn't cover the logo.

[Geriguy]

but I wrote from these red logo fakes at "LEGIT NORMA & SUSTANON??" topic.

http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.php?p=1725326&postcount=45

[dutchbodybuilder]

You overlooked the metal cap, bro's

[Seajackal]

That means it's fake or not?

[dutchbodybuilder]

Its fake.. the cap is just an other deviation that shows that, just like the splitcap on this pic..

[powerbodybuilder]

The right cap is fake?

[dutchbodybuilder]

here a comparisonpicture, that makes it better visible.

[powerbodybuilder]

Thanks for the info DutchBB.

[dutchbodybuilder]

I think geriguy is right look at these in comparison. The septum is different though. And the 0311030 has a blue logo, but the lotnumber is composed correctly, an other fake (0321109) has a simular stupid batchnumber.

[Geriguy]

I don't understand these stupid fakers. Why don't they print a correct lot number? They could made it with the 0311030 and the newer version is a worse fake...

[Money Boss Hustla]

I realize I am sleep depreived right now...but can someone please give me great detail on the fakes. Which ones are fake and which ones are real? I think we need to be more clear when talking about this to help others.

[GATTO]

You Seem To Know A Lot About Fake Steroids. Is Deca 300 Real If So What Does It Do. I Knw Is Compose Of Deca And Sostanon

[Seajackal]

I realize I am sleep depreived right now...but can someone please give me great detail on the fakes. Which ones are fake and which ones are real? I think we need to be more clear when talking about this to help others.
The lot number 0311030 is a know fake that a bunch of guys have shown
in this forum, the lot number is good and the expiry date as well, but it fails
on the crimping and the font of the letter "E" in the label where is said
NANDROLONE DECANOATE, that must be like the lower line in that letter larger
than the middle one and the upper one. Another curious detail is that lot
contains ONLY 1.6-1.8ml of plain oil it never makes 2.00ml of oil, but they are
pretty even in the level.

[Seajackal]

DutchBB, thanks for clarifying my question, bro!

[powerbodybuilder]

I wouild go with the top metal cap. There it can also be easily found if its fake. Most top caps on the Normas are crocked and there are teeth marks on the bottoms.
I will try to post a pic.

[powerbodybuilder]

Its kind of hard to see on the pic but there are teeth marks from some equipment used to put the cap on.

[Seajackal]

That's a bad crimp PowerBB, thanx for the pic!

[powerbodybuilder]

Most FAKES can be seen by that. But all glass amps are harder :(

[Money Boss Hustla]

The lot number 0311030 is a know fake that a bunch of guys have shown
in this forum, the lot number is good and the expiry date as well, but it fails
on the crimping and the font of the letter "E" in the label where is said
NANDROLONE DECANOATE, that must be like the lower line in that letter larger
than the middle one and the upper one. Another curious detail is that lot
contains ONLY 1.6-1.8ml of plain oil it never makes 2.00ml of oil, but they are
pretty even in the level.

Crimps I am okay with. The "e" thing is still confusing. Can you do a picture with real and fakes for us?

[Geriguy]

Today I will make a picture from the fake.
I don't have real one amps now.

[Seajackal]

The one in the left is the real deal, Money Boss, please notice
the lenght of the lower line in the letter "E" that is slightly larger
than the 2 others that's the real deal font, but in the real deals
box the font doesn't apply to this detail as all the lines have the
same size.

[Seajackal]

Let's see Geriguy's fakes pictures and you'll be OK with that
detail, MBH!

[Geriguy]

so, the pictures
I zoomed the letter "E" at Nandrolone Decanoate.
All of the lines are the same length.

At real Norma's the last line is a bit longer!

[Seajackal]

Thanks for the pic Geri, BTW this s the famous 0311030?

[Geriguy]

I stole the E letter from Seajackal's picture, and made one new picture.
See the diff:

[Seajackal]

Cool, bro! Nice job!

[Geriguy]

Yes this is 0311030. I also have the new red-logo fake. The fakers used the same label, only the lot and the exp is different.

BUT: 4 or 5 of my friends use these fakes, and 2 of them make a deca-only (or something that's contain) cycle. And they grow!!! So it should contain something...
(low dose of test or NPP)

What do you think, is it possible that fakers made 2 kind of fakes? One with plain oil and one with some steroidical compound?

[Seajackal]

Basically fakers start putting some active substance in the "supposed"
steroid vial, but kinda 50% of the vial content, then start selling it, people
use it and notice some small growth, then suddenly they put nothing
but plain oil, IMO your buddies got the ones that made some small portion
of test, I don't believe they would put NPP on it but something cheaper.

[Money Boss Hustla]

Woohoo. Had some sleep and I now see it. lol

[Seajackal]

Amennnnnn!

[powerbodybuilder]

Just found out my friend in Europe got those Fake Normas tested from Croatia.
The test showed 15mg Test Propionate per 100mg. That ****ing shows why people get a little gain. I will try to get the test results.

[Seajackal]

I told ya before bro, that ain't nadrolone decanoate inside those
vials...and you insisted that it had deca...but finally we have something
for certain, but for me it gave nothing but pimples and some crazy
dots in my shoulders when I took.

[powerbodybuilder]

Most of the fakes are not the full 2ml, more like 1.7-1.8ml.

[powerbodybuilder]

Until a test is done, no one knows what the **** is inside. Like I always tell people if your not sure dont ****ing take it.

[Seajackal]

I second what you said about taking, bro!

[sevenmann]

hmmm, Seajackal, i did a cycle of your so called "fake" Normas and got "Deca Dick"
it was a few years ago when i didn't know better then to take deca alone
If it was fake, how come i got DD ? ?
Just curious

[sevenmann]

Oh, and one more thing, I purchased mine at a pharmacy in Greece !!!!
So are you telling me that in Greece, Greek pharmacists are getting sold fake Norma's ?
Crap, if i'm getting fake stuff from pharmacists, may be time to go back on the creatine !!!

[Seajackal]

hmmm, Seajackal, i did a cycle of your so called "fake" Normas and got "Deca Dick"
it was a few years ago when i didn't know better then to take deca alone
If it was fake, how come i got DD ? ?
Just curious
Man, do you have a pic of your deca? That's curious bro, are you sure yours
looked like the ones we commented here? Cuz the deca dick can only come
from real Nandrolone Decanoate from the progestin induced by this compound
or maybe something you messed up (not trying to doubt your skills even in
the past) about the PCT timing cuz the low endogenous test production will
cause you loss of libido as well. I really doubt that yours would be like these
ones we commented here, Sevenmann, cuz you said you got them straightly
from the Greek Pharmacy, you can ask Judge Dread about it, they don't sell
fakes in their pharmacies, for sure. Just make sure that the ones you were
talking about look like the fakes we posted over this thread, bro.