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goalkeeper
05-15-2005, 03:27 PM
OK guys...I found out that using Clen while doing PCT, you can save some muscle and even lose fat at the same time. Has anyone else heard of this, and if so, when do you start using the Clen, how much, etc., etc. ?

I did stop my cycle because of gyno, and I am taking 300mgs of clomid today and starting PCT, so I would like to figure out how to use this Clen to give me the best results possible.

Thanks,
GK
Aboot
05-15-2005, 03:38 PM
I've never bothered with clen during PCT. I think it's more important to maintain your calorie level so that you can hold on to as much muscle as possible. In my opinion the anti-catabolic properties of clen are overstated.
goalkeeper
05-15-2005, 04:05 PM
that may be true...but it could just be an added benefit. I am truthfully looking to clen for fat buring first and foremost...if it helps me keep my gains, then even better!!
Aboot
05-15-2005, 04:15 PM
What was your cycle?
goalkeeper
05-15-2005, 04:43 PM
150mgs prop and 75mgs fina eod
wolfyEVH
05-15-2005, 06:07 PM
150mgs prop and 75mgs fina eod


wouldnt bother with the clen....

btw, is your avatar someone giving a chick a dirty sanchez?? lol
goalkeeper
05-15-2005, 06:24 PM
why not bother with clen??

yes....it is a dirty sanchez
Aboot
05-15-2005, 07:48 PM
why not bother with clen??


It's just a bit contradictory in terms of what you want to do during PCT, i.e. maintain as much muscle as possible while getting your hormone production back up and running. Doing this in a calorie deficit is much harder than doing it while getting plenty of calories and protein.
milwood
05-15-2005, 07:59 PM
I am going to run clen in PCT. I know there is controversy, but I'm down. I don't know if the anti-catabolic effects are that pronounced, especially at low doses, but some seem to think they are. It does not appear that catabolism is a problem, and I'd like to keep fat gain at bay while maintaining high calories to keep muscle/gains while T levels are low and recovering. I am going to run IGF, nolva, and a few other things as well.
pyschomab
05-15-2005, 09:18 PM
i just finished my cycle and ill start clomid in a day or 2 and in a week ill throw up some clen as well to keep my muscle mass and right when i finish with clen im going on creatine !! for non stop liver damage muah ah ah ha ha ha aha ! then its on to my next cycle !