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ImACrazyJewDaddy
05-28-2005, 09:36 AM
Just wondering on what supplement gave you guys the best strength gains. If it was creatine, which brand? I'm looking to gain as much strength as possible and the only thing that had work for me was VNS Jacked. But im beginning to think it was of a placebo affect.

Justin Sane
05-28-2005, 09:39 AM
Personally, I have seen crazy strenth gains with NOXPLOAD, and NO2... or you could just do tren!

swoll4589
05-28-2005, 09:40 AM
m1t but i hate the sides

nsa
05-28-2005, 10:21 AM
Superdrol and CEE are probably your best bets nowadays...

ImACrazyJewDaddy
05-28-2005, 12:10 PM
yea, i was thinking of doing superdrol and cee. But isnt it just a legal steroid?

ImACrazyJewDaddy
05-28-2005, 12:17 PM
What about Legal Gear's Methyl-1 P. Could you stack that with superdrol and cee to yield more, keepable gains. I read that even though it is methylated, is has no liver toxicity.???

nsa
05-28-2005, 02:26 PM
What?!?!? Who ever told you that is flat-out lying. Don't stack two methyl's together.

Yes, superdrol is simply a legal oral steriod. But i figured you wouldn't have a problem with it. SD is not very hepatoxic though if thats what your worrying about, but i doubt thats your worry because you where going to stack two methyl's together.

ImACrazyJewDaddy
05-28-2005, 03:06 PM
Legal gear must have been lying then.....if you go to discountanabolics.com and search for legal gears Methyl 1-p, they say "We expect no liver issues with M1P AT ALL!"...."M1P is a very mild compound on the liver and should not have any liver toxicity."

ImACrazyJewDaddy
05-28-2005, 03:28 PM
heres a thought, is it worth the price for superdrol for the gains one could recieve. Or could somebody recieve better strength/lean gains from a oral winny cycle at 50 ed. Or tbol. or is it mailny the side effects everyone is looking out for when comparing the legal to illegal substances?

ImACrazyJewDaddy
05-28-2005, 03:30 PM
typo "50 mgs ED" not 50 tabs

nsa
05-28-2005, 06:33 PM
Legal gear must have been lying then.....if you go to discountanabolics.com and search for legal gears Methyl 1-p, they say "We expect no liver issues with M1P AT ALL!"...."M1P is a very mild compound on the liver and should not have any liver toxicity."

It's not as hepatoxic as M1T or anadrol, but it still has some degree of liver toxicity...

nsa
05-28-2005, 06:34 PM
IMO your not gonna gain much strength from a winny only cycle, if your not worried about legality try anavar.

prolangtum
05-29-2005, 01:33 AM
winny will put your HDL in the shitter. If legality is not a concern, Testosterone is fairly safe at moderate dosages (ie 500mgs or so).

ImACrazyJewDaddy
05-29-2005, 12:04 PM
im think if im not going to do superdrol, im gonna do tbol cause i heard its a pretty decent product, even by itself.

S.P.G
05-31-2005, 10:16 AM
o.t.c the reflex creatine is good...