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monsterback
04-19-2002, 01:14 PM
Hi All,

Need advice on second cycle.

Coming up on the big 50 in June. My first cycle ended March 15. Here are a few stats:

Ht. 6'0"
Wt. 207
Age: 49+
BF: 10%
Training for Decades naturally until January.

With my first cycle I went from 197 lbs. to 212 LBS. After 4 weeks I am down to 207 and more ripped when I ended the cycle. I am fairly satisfied with the results. Here was the first cycle:

WK 1 200 deca
WK 2 200 Deca 250 Sust
Wk 3-6 300 Deca 250 Sust
Wk 7 225 Deca 250 Sust.
Wk 8 150 Deca 100 Sten (Ran out of Sust)

Only sides were slight break out on my shoulders.
Did not need novadex but had it on hand.

Suggestions for a second cycle would be appreciated would like to put on 15-20 LBS. this time. I know I will have increase food intake to do this.

monsterback:cool:

bizznach
04-19-2002, 11:11 PM
no advice cuz i dont know much but thats awsome that ur 50 and in such goog shape. i wish i was 212 at 10%bf

monsterback
04-20-2002, 07:10 AM
Bizznach

Thanks, been working at it for years. I have a 22 year old son I have to keep pace with.

I am trying to figure out if I should stay with the same AS I used in the first cycle and just use higher doses, or if I shoudl change to different AS.

Also my supplier has switched from TToyku to ** and I am a little concerned about **.

I want to compete in an some local competitions in the over 50 class next year and figure I need about 20 more pounds.

Anyone with thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Monsterback:lift:

Ajax
04-20-2002, 11:19 PM
What you were doing sounds pretty good--you seemed to get good results!

Some thoughts:

Switch to Test. Cypionate or Enathate instead of Sustanon. Single-ester test. gives you much more even blood levels.

Do Deca at 300 or 400mg throught the whole cycle.

Add some d-bol at the beginning of the cycle for 4 weeks, it's very good 'bang-for-the-buck.'

If you are worried about your supplier's quality, look for a new one. There are a lot of them out there providing quality products!

monsterback
04-22-2002, 06:58 AM
Thanks Ajax,

I was considering the the single ester test. Are there any negatives to them?

How much D-bol the first four wks?

Monsterback:lift:

bortort
04-22-2002, 01:50 PM
from my use between the three test. I didn't have any bad sides from either of them. The sust. I'm leaving out next time I felt like I got getter gains from cyp. Between cyp and enathate, cyp gives me more water retention then the enath. But for a bulk cycle I don't mind to much water.

D-bol:
take for the first four weeks anywhere from 30 - 50mg a day.
Remember its only your second time doing AS. so you don't need to go on the higher side. 35mg/ed wouldn't be a bad go.

monsterback
04-23-2002, 09:57 PM
Thanks

I guess I will do a little more homework on Winny, Dbol and Cyp and ethanate. I appreciate all your input. I will keep you posted on how it goes.

Monsterback:lift: