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Schwarz

09-12-2005, 07:12 AM

OK well started my first cycle on 5/9/05.

Here's some basic info

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=192546&highlight=pin+cushion

I thought I'd start this log coz it was difficult to find one with just test E and EQ...a lot of people throw in some sort of oral at the beggining.

I've done two shots up until now both in the legs. Tommorrow I'm gonna try my first glute shot. Both shots went well. I followed proper procedure and was really ANAL about hygiene. I was a little nervous about sides so the firstr shot took about 30 minutes but by the second I was OK. I guess the way I look at it is I've never cared if I die or not so fvck it....and I want to grow into a beast...or atleast another swolecat.

Nothing to report so far. I have felt a little moody and agressive this week but that isn't out of the norm for me....I hate most people :wg: The proviron seems to be doing a good job of hardening me up a bit.

Will report back once things start kicking in....or going wrong.

Cheers
S

PS Nobody has still welcomed me to the "dark side"....... :?:

testosterona

09-13-2005, 02:26 AM

cool man. was hoping to run test e and eq next time. keep us posted on how things go and when you start seeing gains.
good luck

Schwarz

09-13-2005, 05:27 AM

3rd shot done in the right glute this morning. Went fine. Left but check feels a little numb now probably from the BA or the excessive massaging I did. Did legs yesterday and it went well. No major strength changes but I am 1kg heavier at 100.6kg from last week :wg: .

Cheers
S

Schwarz

09-14-2005, 06:36 AM

My ass hurts like hell today. I'm pretty sure its not infected or anything coz it just feels like bruising. Did chest last night. Only highlight was doing 110lb dumbells on the decline for 9 reps and also managed to finally do flys with the 50lb dumbells (properly with my arms stretched out) for all 4 sets ranging from 15-12 reps.

Apart from that nothing else to note although I did managed to beat my training partner in nealy every set we did. I think it's too early to say it was the AAS...I think it was just an off day for him. I got a massive pump in my chest and several people commented on how pumped I looked.... :wg:

Felling good. Eating well and training has been good so far but I need to up the intensity. I think I've been lagging coz of the hot weather but that seems to be going now. This is why I waited until September to do my cycle. I just can't train well enough in the heat!!!

No sides as yet...fingers crossed its like that all the way through.

S

Schwarz

09-16-2005, 10:44 AM

For all those interested my right butt cheek is fine. It was just soreness and went away a couple of days later.

Done my left cheek today. That's shot number 4. Went well but when I pulled out got a bit of blood and it was really dark. But I feel fine so....

I hate injecting glutes especially the left side. I'm so ****ing bulky that it's really difficult to see what you're doing most of the time and I'm right handed so the left side is always difficult.

No sides as yet although I'm sure my balls have already shrunk a bit. I'm gonna have to keep an eye on them and consider HCG towards the end of my cycle....

Shoulders tonight. Looking forward to it.

S

Joey2ness

09-16-2005, 03:37 PM

Welcome to the dark side!!!!!

Schwarz

09-17-2005, 04:47 PM

Welcome to the dark side!!!!!

THAKNYOU Joey2ness!!!!!!! At ****ing last someone has done it. Now I can sleep at night.

Update. I'm feeling really good today and a my arms session was excellent. I supperseted biceps and triceps and it was awesome. Everything seemed just slightly easier and even though I was supersetting bis and tris I seemed to recover a lot quicker. I also seemed to get a slightly better pump and I was slightly more agressive.

I think it may just be in my head at the moment but I can't help just sitting there in betwwen sets and looking at my veins in my forearms and just imagining that juice travelling down them and turning me into a BEAST :wg: ...

Appetite also seems to be pretty good and I'm eating like a horse (but really CLEAN)....

Schwarz

09-20-2005, 07:00 AM

Shot 5 done in my right leg. Went fine with no problems. Arms on Saturday was awesome but I've been feeling a little under the weather since Sunday. I'm starting to get a sore throat, a cold and sometimes feel very hot. I'm also feeling very tired and agressive. I'm easily keeping the aggression uder control though.

After my 5th shot I tried a bit of the AAS and it was kinds bitter tasting. I'm still slowly inching away from my training partner with regards to strength. I wonder how long it's going to take him to start wondering. Not that I'd tell him.

No other sides apart from what looks like test flu coming on.

Cheers
S

itsdarock

09-20-2005, 10:08 PM

welcome to the dark side muah ha ha ha ha! by the way i the next couple of weeks is when the AAS's really take effect and you start to notice a differance. if anyone wants to coment please chime in.

itsdarock

09-21-2005, 12:56 AM

bump

Schwarz

09-21-2005, 04:23 AM

Cheers itsdarock.

Update: Well even though I felt kinds shitty yesterday I still went to the gym. I know I probably shouldn've have rested up but what can I say I'm addicted to the pump!! :wg:

Its kinda weird though. I'm not sure if this is test flu or not. Sunday, Monday and tuesday I felt slightly feverish, sore throat, coughing slightly and a runny nose. Today I already feel much better. I've had the flu before and this was very, very mild compared to that. The only thing I can think of was that when I went for my pre cycle bloods I was told by the doctor that the two tests (can't remember what they were called) that indicated how well you fight infection were both "extremely high" and it's true in the past I've been able to get rid of a cold in 24 hours when other people have had it for days. Not sure if I should expect something more in the next week or so.

Yesterdays back training was pretty incredible. I blew my training partner out of the water. I was lifting about 15% heavier than him in all the back movements we did and I looked seriously pumped at the end. I think it might just be in my head but the past couple of workouts have felt slightly easy. Before I would tire out about half way to 3 quarters of the way through the workout and the weights I'd use would reduce accordingly. But yesterday I managed to maintain intensity and high weights right the way through the workout.

To top it off the owner of my gym who competed up to Mr. Universe level actually came up to me grabbed my shoulders and said "wow he's coming on ain't he!". This is a guy that your lucky if you get a grunt out of him let alone a compliment like that.

All in all a seriously good day. So far no sides. I think the combo of Proviron and Nolva is doing it's job well and it don't seem to be limiting my pump or strength in any way. Whether it limits my gains is still to be seem.

Right leg is a little sore today but no signs of infection. Weighed in at 101.6kg

I'm off to eat!

Cheers
S

Schwarz

09-25-2005, 12:05 PM

Shot number six completed on Friday. Shot into my left quad. First shot got quite a bit of blood into the syringe. I changed the syringe, swabbed an area about 1/2 an inch further down and injected again. Went fine. Leg feels fine.

Workouts went OK. Arms on Friday was really good and legs yesterday was OK. This concludes week 3 so I'm hoping that I really start feeling the effects by the end of next week.

EQ seems to healping my eating as well.

So far no sides. Fingers crossed it stays that way.

S

Schwarz

09-26-2005, 08:33 AM

One more thing to add: My level of horniness is definetly increasing.....

Presidential Muscle

09-26-2005, 04:28 PM

How much of Test E and Eq are you taking a week i am getting ready to start and just want to know what you are doing.Thanks sorrry to interfere with anything Thanks.

ufcwarrior

09-26-2005, 06:46 PM

cool, im on the same cycle runnin 500mg of test e and 400mg of equipoise right now and am about as far along as you are now. keep us posted on your gains i will keep checkin in.

Schwarz

09-27-2005, 03:42 AM

How much of Test E and Eq are you taking a week i am getting ready to start and just want to know what you are doing.Thanks sorrry to interfere with anything Thanks.

Easy bro.
Here's my cycle.

1-13 Test E 250mg x 2 shots per week
1-12 EQ 200mg x 2 shots per week
1-19 20mg Nolvadex (http://www.anabolicreview-research.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=43) ed
1-13 25mg Proviron ed
1-19 2mg proscar (http://www.anabolicreview-research.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=44) ed
15-19 Clomid (http://www.anabolicreview-research.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=41) with the usual 100mg for first week, then 50...etc, etc

I'm off to do shot number 7 now.

S

Schwarz

09-27-2005, 04:54 AM

Shot seven done in the right glute. All went smootly. I had a little dribble of juice come back out but hardly much.

Update - Everything seems to be OK. I'm weighing in at about 102kg so I'm up about 5-6lbs in 3 weeks which ain't bad considering the juice ain't really gonna kick in until the end of this week/beggning of next. I certainly look better. Muscles seem to be fuller and a little harder then before. Vascularity also seems to be improving. My veins aren't popping out like a pro's or anything but they definetly seem more visible especially after I've trained.

BP has elevated a little. I'm now about 130/80. I was about 126/75 when I started. Gonna keep an eye on that!

Workouts are going well. Did back last night and blew my training partner out of the water again. Managed to finally crack 100kg on the bent over barbell row for 8 reps and 110kg on the close grip row for 10 reps. My training partner is starting to suspect something. I can see it in the way he looks at me when I'm doing my reps. I feel slightly bad, I don't want him to hurt himself trying to "follow me" but at the same time I don't trust anyone enough to tell them that I'm on juice.

S

Schwarz

09-28-2005, 07:26 AM

Had to update after yesterdays shoulders workout. It was awesome. Everything was easier. Highlight of the workout was doing 3 sets of Arnold press with the 80lb dumbells for 10, 8, 8. I feel I had more left in me at the end of the w/o and I could have perhaps pushed myself a little more but I don't want to risk injury. My shoulders are REALLY sore today so I'm happy.

Arms tonight. Lets see if I can keep the momentum going.

Got a couple of compliments on my size from a couple of women. Wouldn't fvck any of them though..not even if I was on 5g of test a week....but it's nice to get the compliments.

S

Schwarz

09-28-2005, 07:28 AM

cool, im on the same cycle runnin 500mg of test e and 400mg of equipoise right now and am about as far along as you are now. keep us posted on your gains i will keep checkin in.

What have your gains/experiences been so far?

ufcwarrior

09-28-2005, 08:05 PM

Its been 3 1/2 weeks and at the begining of my third week my strength has shot up pretty good. I am back up to my previous best in my lifts. My muscles seem to have alot of endurance. Cant wait to see how much more they go up in the next few weeks. Ill keep in touch.

Schwarz

10-01-2005, 04:18 PM

Well shot 8 has been done in the left glute yesterday. Legs yesterday was pretty good.

Started to feel a little itchiness in the left nipple for the past couple of days so I increased my Nolva to 40mg. Chest workout today was absolute crap. I can't explain it it's like all my strength abandonned me today. Perhaps it's the increase in Nolva.

Overall my strength has gone up so I'm marking this one up as being tired. It's weird. In the gym I do feel stronger and muscles do have more endurance and I am looking better but outside the gym I don't really feel any different. I've read a lot of times how people say they feel "invisible" or something like that but I don't really feel any different.

Feeling a bit down to be honest. Gotta keep it going. Gonna rest for the rest of the weekend and regroup on Monday.

Diet is going well and I'm eating plenty!

Cheers

S

Schwarz

10-04-2005, 07:56 AM

Shot 9 in the right quad done this morning. Didn't go as smoothly. As I was trying to inject the pin wouldn't go in. I couldn't even break the skin!!!! I tried in two places (within 1/2 an inch of eachother) and the same thing. It was bloody painful. The needle didn't look blunt but I changed it and tried another spot about 1/2 inch down from the first two and it went in like butter. Perhaps the needle was blunt? I can't believe that I got scar tissue already!!! And even if it was surely I'd be atleast able to break the skin with the needle wouldn't I?

Anyways. Shoulders went well yesterday. Managed to db press the 100lb dumbells for 4 clean reps on my last set. Previous PB was the 87lb db for 6-7 reps (struggling). This time I blew 87's out of the water for a good 10.

Weight is now up to 103kg. That makes about 8lbs gained in 4 weeks. Pretty good progress I think. If I keep on going like this I should have about 25 odd lbs at the end.

Sides: Well the left nipple seems to have calmed down completely. I stayed on 40mg of Nolva over the weekend and reduced back to 20mg on Monday. Keeping an eye on it.

I've also reduced my finesteride to 1mg ed. I think at 2mg I was blocking too much DHT and strength was suffering.

I've also noticed that my skin (esp my face) seems to be producing more oil. So now I'm washing it with a proper face wash 3-4 times a day. I also seem to be producing more phlem (?) which results in some nice greenies :wg: .

Apart from that everything seems to be going well. Got over my slump at the end of last week so I feel I'm back on track.

Cheers
S

Schwarz

10-08-2005, 05:09 PM

Shot 10 done in the left quad. Went in OK but did hurt a lot more going in than any other shot.

W/o have been good and I seem to be getting stronger. BAck today and the highlight was being able to do the 130lb db for bent over db row for 8 good reps. That was my last of 4 sets working my way up. Previous pb was the 120 for 6 reps.

Looking in the mirror lately I can see my body taking on another shape. It's kinda weird. I seem to be thicker, muscle are fuller and harder looking. I'm really enjoying posing at the moment :wg:. If things carry on like this (and providing I can get a bit of a tan as I'm absolutely pale!!) I'll def get some proper photos done. I've also noticed a reduction in bf%. Not a huge amount...probably just 1/2-1%.

Sides: Nothing noticeable. Nipples are fine. Losing a few hairs...probably seeing 3-5 some days when I comb my hair. I think this is a reasonable amount and shouldn't cause my any long term baldness.

Cheers
S

Schwarz

10-12-2005, 06:44 AM

Shot 11 in the right glute done yesterday. Very little soreness now from the injections...probably coz I've calmed down a lot while injecting and I'm not moving the pin around as much. Did have the same problem as the quad shot the other week (ie. the pin not being able to break the skin). I moved it somewhere else and it went in fine but did hurt a lot. I think I may just have a bad batch of pins. I hope that is it...i'd hate to think I've already got scar tissue...

Highlights so far in training. I managed to bb curl the 20kg per side on Monday. BB curl has always been difficult for me. I don't know why as I can db curl quiet a bit more. Yesterday I managed to leg press 795lbs on the leg press for 8 good reps...but I have to admit I did start to feel it in the left knee a little. I also managed to get 1 3/4 plates a side on the front squats for 8 reps with my bum touching grass. PB on leg press was about just under 700lbs and on the front squats was 1 1/4 plates.

Benching tonight so I'm interested to see if I can make some gains there. Bench press is another movement I lack in. I flat press the 120lb db for reps but put me under a bar and I just can't seem to get it right. It seems to always irritate my left shoulder. :icon_piss

Sides: Nothing to really report here apart from the fact that I constantly feel tired this week. I can hardly keep my eyes open and it's starting to annoy me!!!!! Apart from that everything else is OK.

Cheers
S

Liftnainez

10-12-2005, 11:05 AM

Nice progress bro- keep it up.. I have one question: How is the proviron working for you? I am interested to see if I should add it to my Test/Tbol stack?
Thanks

Schwarz

10-12-2005, 11:10 AM

Nice progress bro- keep it up.. I have one question: How is the proviron working for you? I am interested to see if I should add it to my Test/Tbol stack?
Thanks

Easy bro,
Yer the proviron is working well. Definetly keeping the bloat away and it is making me look a little "harder". A lot of people say they get constant erections from proviron but I haven't had that. I think it's also good to use because it stops the likelyhood of estrogen rebound when you end your cycle and start PCT. Also so far 20mg of Nolva and 25mg of Proviron has kept any likelyhood of gyno well at bay!

Cheers
S

beast N°1

10-15-2005, 10:23 AM

what's up with the updateeeeeeeee

Schwarz

10-15-2005, 03:28 PM

what's up with the updateeeeeeeee

Ehhh :scratch:

Schwarz

10-15-2005, 03:39 PM

Shot 12 in the left glute done. No real soreness and the shot went well.

Training towards the end of the week has been really good. The tiredness I was feeling seems to have lifted. It was really pissing me off!!!

Back yesterday was good. I had a bit of a scare. Was doing deadlifts and had just completed 310lbs deadlift for 10 good reps. I replaced the weight and literally as I took 2 steps my left glute and hamsting just seized up. The pain was unbearable!!! I thought I had torn my glute muscle and I couldn't even put my left foot down!!! Luckily after a few minutes it seemed to dissapear. Still a little sore today...must have been cramp. Damn shit ruined my deadlifts!!! Was going for 400lbs that day!!!

Shoulders today was awesome. Finally managed to shoulder press 80kg each side on the bb press (seated ofcourse!). My back is really sore and shoulders are gonna be dead tommorrow.

Eating has been really good this week. I think the EQ hunger is really settling in. Sometimes after just 1 hour I feel hungryu again!

Gonna weigh myself on Monday and see what the weight is. Fingers crossed.

Cheers
S

ScreaM

10-17-2005, 11:57 AM

Congrats on your work so far. Keep on putting in the details, cause this is my next cycle.

LAter

Schwarz

10-18-2005, 10:27 AM

Shot 13 done in the right quad. Still having problems with the needle not penetrating the skin. I'm hoping its just a bad batch...but I can't help thinking it's scar tissue.

Legs yesterday was really good. Strength wise I was awesome. Weighed in at 104.2. If my calculator is correct that makes me 229lbs. So mid way through the cycle I am up 10lbs. I'm happy with that coz it means I'm on target for that 20lbs by the end.

Sides. None to report really. Nipples are fine. Sleeping pattern seems to be settling down as well. I have had a couple of incidences of extreme agression this past weekend but nothing I couldn't control....I just seem to be easily wound up at the moment. Oh i've also been having a little more heart burn lately. But I always get this when I bulk and my weight goes up. Once it stabilizes the heart burn goes away.....just more annoying than anything.

Chest tonight and then back tommorrow. Looking to break some PBs especially tonight!

I did some preliminary measurements over the weekend... just messing about kinda thing u know. Anyway I was astounded to see that I had put on just over 2cm on my legs and nearly 1.5cm on my calves. Amazing!!!

S

Schwarz

10-21-2005, 11:17 AM

Shot 14 done in left quad. Really bad today. Had to poke myself 3 times before the damn thing went in!!! I'm gonna have to start using shoulders....was hoping glutes and quds would be enough but obviously not!!!!

Sides: None to report. Heart burn is still there but manageable. Nipples are fine.

Managed to do the bent over db row with the 130s for 2 sets this time (started at 110) both for 8 reps. Also managed two sets of incline db press with the 110lbs both for 8.

Thanks
S

PS anyone doing this cycle want to chime in with their progress/thoughts so far are very welcome....

302help

10-21-2005, 01:25 PM

I am on the same cycle right now. I am at the end of week 4. I have noticed more hardness and a little stregnth but nothing spectacular. I hope the next few weeks bring in some big gains. I train hard and eat alot. started at 208 now at 222 but I dont really see the gains and have really had no compliments about getting bigger. Oh well I'll post again a little later.

Schwarz

10-22-2005, 03:43 PM

Lift05

10-22-2005, 04:58 PM

That's a big gain

302help

10-23-2005, 11:57 AM

yes Im running nolva and dutasteride. Im running 500 test and 400 eq and also front loaded them the first week 1000 and 800. This is my first cycle so im wasnt sure what to really expect. I do think frontloading may help. From what I have read you realy dont see results until weak 4 or 5 but my strength and muscle hardness were going up from the end of week 2 on.

Schwarz

10-26-2005, 05:14 AM

Shot 15 done in left shoulder. The needle went in smootly this time so I have to conclude that the problems I'm having in my quads and glutes is due to scaring. This is not good!!!

No prblems with the shoulder apart from for some reason I am getting a pain in my left rear delt now. It's better than it was yesterday so I'm not really worrying too much.

Training has been goo so far this week and I'm getting stronger and stronger. My endurance is also up drastically. Weighed in at 105kg on Monday so I'm happy with that.

Cheers
S

Schwarz

10-28-2005, 11:16 AM

Shot 16 done in right shoulder. Went in fine. Again I'm having this sharp pain in my right rear delt area. Can't even raise my arm up into the air.

Training is continuing to be good and strength has gone up. EQ seems to be really kicking in now as I feel really hungry all the time. No sides to report. Getting some good compliments from ppl at work. One person said I was looking really huge so I'm happy :wg:

Thanks
S

ScreaM

10-30-2005, 08:40 PM

those are some good results, really good when ppl start to notice! Did you say your running 10 mg ed of novla? Hows that going with the estrogen side of things? No bad sides hopefully.

Later

ScreAM

Schwarz

10-31-2005, 03:45 AM

those are some good results, really good when ppl start to notice! Did you say your running 10 mg ed of novla? Hows that going with the estrogen side of things? No bad sides hopefully.

Later

ScreAM

Thanks. I've been a bit anal on estrogen coz I've taken 20mg ed of nolva and 25mf ed of proviron. No estrogenic sides at all...but I think my gains have been sacrificed a bit by this but I'm OK with that. Also I know that the proviron will stop the backlash of estrogen when I come off so that's important to. My aim with this cycle is to get to 20lbs of LBM by the end. So far I think Im on target so fingers crossed.

Cheers
S

ScreaM

10-31-2005, 12:11 PM

Did you get the proviron from the AAR store? What are some other names for it. Do you feel like your holding alot of water, or are you staying on the leaner side of things? Good luck''

ScreaM

Schwarz

11-01-2005, 03:33 AM

Did you get the proviron from the AAR store? What are some other names for it. Do you feel like your holding alot of water, or are you staying on the leaner side of things? Good luck''

ScreaM

I got my proviron from my source. It's Schering PRoviron. I feel i'm holding next to nothing in terms of water so I'm pretty confident my gains are all lean.

Cheers
S

Schwarz

11-01-2005, 07:49 AM

Shot 17 in the right glute. No problems shooting this time. Went straight in first time which was good. Little disappointed yesterday as I am still 105kg so no improvement from last week. But I had a bad weekend as I think i eat somthing dodgy and was on the loo most of it. I still think I can get to the 20lbs by the end but I'm gonna have to go all out for the last five weeks now.

Back yesterday was a good session. Managed a pb on tbar rows of 4.5 plates for a good 8 and assisted to 10. Shoulders tonight which I know I'm gonna enjoy.

Thinking of reducing nolva to 10mg this week just to see what happens. Been thinking over the weekend that maybe my estrogen management has been over the top. I think I'll start today and see what happens over the week.

Thanks
S

BigPimpin76

11-02-2005, 05:04 PM

Awesome Bro, Keep us posetd. Good Luck reaching the 20 lbs mark.
And yeah Proviron is great.

beast N°1

11-05-2005, 10:20 AM

Schwarz

11-07-2005, 04:38 AM

Shot 18 done on Friday in left glute. Went in like butter again so I'm starting to think the problems I was having was due to not allowing sufficient time between injection spots. Adding in delts now seems to have sorted that.

Legs on Friday was good managed 3 plates on squats for 2 of the 4 sets both for 10 reps. Chest on saturday was good too. Trained with a mate of mine whose excellent on the bench and he gave me a couple of important pointers which seemed to improve my technique. He pushed me hard and got me to do 2.5 plates per side for a good 3 reps on the last set of 5.

I'm still on a reduced 10 mg a day on the nolva. This hasn't caused any real problems as yet. I got a bit of sensitivity in the nipples on Saturday but nothing major. I think my strength is up a bit because of it and my recovery in between sets seems to be improving every week.

Weigh in tonight so lets hope for atleast 2lbs this weeks!!! That would bring my total to about 15lbs I think.

Thanks
S

Schwarz

11-07-2005, 04:39 AM

this cycle sucked for me , i started at the same day as you but i quit the cycle about 10 days ago, strenght gains were pore and i put on 8-9 lbs in 7 weeks, and that suck, i"m gonna wait a couple of months and do a test/deca/dboll cycle!

Sorry to hear that bro. Did you feel nothing at all then? Why don't u post up your entire cycle, stats and diet and we can take a look.
S

cnepp

11-07-2005, 08:46 PM

ScreaM

11-07-2005, 10:39 PM

Schwarz

11-08-2005, 04:02 AM

Just would like to say that I've been following you for sometime now, and the results sound impressive! I'll be running Test Prop [200 MG EOD] and EQ [200 MG 2x a week]. Just a quick question: Would you recommend rotating injection sites? It sounds like your glutes scarred up quickly. This will be my first cycle, so any advice [especially with the EQ] would be helpful. Glad to see your lifting hard! Good luck on the remaining weeks -- hit it hard.

Cheers for following my progress. Firstly I'd say bump up the prop to 2 x 250mg a week shots. And def rotate injection sites. Have atleast 3 sites in your rotation. YOu have to be mega patient with the EQ coz it takes a long time to kick in. And make sure that you have everything worked out on paper....the cycle itself, PCT, nutrition plan, training program. Once the test kicks in and you feel stronger set yourself little goals (make sure thry are realistic!!) to make sure you push urself every workout. For example yesterday my goals in my shoulder w/o was to press the 100lbs for atleast 2 sets out of my 4 sets and for atleast 6-8 reps each set. And then my secondary goal was to lateral raise the 50lbs db for atleast 3 sets for 8-10 reps.

Trust me nothing in a cycle goes smoothly as I'll explain later after my next shot so try to cover every angle.....that way nothing is a suprise!!!

Good luck bro
S

Schwarz

11-08-2005, 04:08 AM

Glad to hear things are still going well. So you have 3 weeks left(might be bad math, but 18 shots/twice a week=9 weeks out of a ?12? week cycle. How is the visual side of things? lookin lean and mean? Well, good luck...

ScreaM

Cheers bro. Yer I'm on week 10 out of 13 so 4 weeks left. I'm looking pretty good. Muscles are fuller and I def look bigger. Wouldn't lean as I'm eating everything in site but I have felt that my bf% has droped a bit since the EQ kicked in.

Thanks
S

Schwarz

11-08-2005, 06:44 AM

Shot 19 done in right quad. Went in with a little pain but I learnt that if I insert the pin really slowly I can seem to get past the pain.

So why am i majorly pissed!!! Well I'm still on 105kg!!! Now i could look at it this way - since the EQ kicked in (about 10 days ago) I do seem to have dropped some bf. So maybe I'm just exchanging bf for muscle.....Yer you're right BOLLOCKS!!!!! So I've added 500 cals ed to my nutition plan. This ain't gonna be easy as it feels like I'm force feeding some of the time as it is....but like Ronnie say "Everyone wants to be a bodybuilder but noone wants to lift heavy ass weights!!". So I'm going all out for these last 4 weeks...I NEED THAT LAST 7LBS!!!!!!!!

Shoulder training yesterday was good. I'm blowing my training partner clean out the water at each w/o now...:aaGreen22

I'm off to eat!
S

FranKieC

11-08-2005, 08:02 PM

Good luck with the cycle...

bobreece

11-11-2005, 07:58 PM

sorry for posting so many same things the computer got over excited

MeanMachine2000

11-12-2005, 12:27 AM

10 weeks of d-bol??? 5 weeks of EQ???? injecting prop only twice a week????

you may want to some more reaserch and reconsider your cycle

Schwarz

11-12-2005, 03:08 PM

sorry for posting so many same things the computer got over excited

No problem. Can you delete the excess ones please.
Thanks
S

On your cycle. I think that you need to reconsider. Using so many compounds on a first cycle and in that particular order is not advisable.

Schwarz

11-12-2005, 03:15 PM

Shot 20 done in left quad. Went well. Again I had to insert the needle really, really slowly. Like it took me about 2 mins to get it in but I seemed to be able to get through the scar tissue that way.

These past two days of training have been some of the best. Highlight of chest yesterday was being able (using the tips that that mate of mine gave me) 2 plates for a 12, 2 plates + 2.5 for 10 and 2 plates and a 5 for 8 totally unasisted by my spotter. I think I got the bench mastered now and hopefully I'll be able to get some serious poundages on it in the next 4-6 months.

Back today was also awesome. Managed a PB of 4 plates on the deadlift for 6 good reps. Previous PB was 3.5 plates for 6-8 reps. The weight didn't even seems that heavy!

Cheers
S

Schwarz

11-15-2005, 11:36 AM

Shot 21 done in left delt. No problems. Well guess what!!! Yep the weight has gone up again for a staggering 106.2kg! I can believe it 1.2kg in a week and I gotta say in all honesty it don't look like much of that was fat at all! I guess the additional calories helped! So that brings me to 233.6lbs. A total so far of 14.5lbs. Last 3 weeks now so gotta keep on pushing!!

S

tiger909

11-19-2005, 10:49 PM

keept comin bro

Schwarz

11-21-2005, 10:42 AM

Did shot 22 last Friday. Had to do it in right glute instead of right shoulder as it was back and shoulders on Friday and Sat so couldn't risk my shoulder being out of action. It's cool I'll do right shoulder this tuesday when I do legs and then i'll be back on track.

Back was awesome last week and I felt sore for a good few days. I'm continuously being amazed by my recovery between sets. I used to have to take a goo 3-4 mins in between sets when doing compuonds like deads and squats but now I'm ready to go in 60-90 secs.Weighing myself tonight. Lets hope for improvement. It's looking v unlikely that I'm gonna hit that 20lb mark but I'm still pushing for as close as possible to it!!

S

Narkissos

11-21-2005, 06:22 PM

sorry for posting so many same things the computer got over excited

Fixed.

Nice log by the way Schwarz :thumbsup:

Hope to see before and after pics at the end

~Nark

ScreaM

11-22-2005, 12:26 PM

Congrats on blowing through your plateau on you cycle, thats awesome. What are you running for PCT? feel free to pm me with it, cause its my next cycle, and I wanna keep the gains. thanks

ScreaM

Schwarz

11-23-2005, 04:03 AM

Congrats on blowing through your plateau on you cycle, thats awesome. What are you running for PCT? feel free to pm me with it, cause its my next cycle, and I wanna keep the gains. thanks

ScreaM

Cheers. I'm going to be doing 2 weeks of HCG at 1500iu x 2 shots per week. This will be in the 2 weeks before I start PCT. Then clomid for 5 weeks starting with a frontload of about 250 then 200 for 1 week then 100mg ed for 2 weeks then 50mg a day for 2 weeks. I'm also going to be running 1g of trib with that and ofcourse nolva.

I have a feeling it's gonna be a rough ride but there you go....

Update on the weight. Damn electronic scales at the gym have broken so I'm waiting on them to be fixed. I've got those normal scales at home but they're not very accurate.

Legs yesterday was pretty good. Managed a PB for front squats of 2 plates for 10 going all the way down. Previous PB was 1 3/4 plates for about 6 i think.

Schwarz

11-23-2005, 04:05 AM

Fixed.

Nice log by the way Schwarz :thumbsup:

Hope to see before and after pics at the end

~Nark

Thanks bro. I hope i can pluck up the courage to do that. Always been v shy about that. I always train in sweatshirts and stuff....guess I've never been into showing it off...:wg:

zomzom

11-27-2005, 06:41 AM

You forgot the before and after pics? if yes ur post is nothing worst than my words, lool i m kidding haha.

Nice log.

Schwarz

11-28-2005, 04:40 AM

Shot 23 done in right shoulder last Tuesday and 24 in left glute last Friday. Last week was a good weeks training. The weights gone up as well to 107.2kg. That makes me about 236lbs. That makes a total of about 17lbs if my math is correct. Not bad. I said I wanted to hit between 235-245 during this cycle so I'm please with that.

Did my last shot of EQ last Friday and I gotta say I'm missing it already :wg: . Training has been good this week. Managed to hit the 100s on the shoulder press for a 7 and an 8 and repeat my 4 plates on deads for 6 again. Benching tonight so I'm gonna see what happens.

Cheers
S

zomzom

12-04-2005, 04:01 AM

Cheers for following my progress. Firstly I'd say bump up the prop to 2 x 250mg a week shots. And def rotate injection sites. Have atleast 3 sites in your rotation. YOu have to be mega patient with the EQ coz it takes a long time to kick in. And make sure that you have everything worked out on paper....the cycle itself, PCT, nutrition plan, training program. Once the test kicks in and you feel stronger set yourself little goals (make sure thry are realistic!!) to make sure you push urself every workout. For example yesterday my goals in my shoulder w/o was to press the 100lbs for atleast 2 sets out of my 4 sets and for atleast 6-8 reps each set. And then my secondary goal was to lateral raise the 50lbs db for atleast 3 sets for 8-10 reps.

Trust me nothing in a cycle goes smoothly as I'll explain later after my next shot so try to cover every angle.....that way nothing is a suprise!!!

Good luck bro

Schwarz, I would like to know if you are sure about the Test Propionate 2x250mg per week?

Schwarz

12-04-2005, 07:37 AM

Schwarz, I would like to know if you are sure about the Test Propionate 2x250mg per week?
I'd say so. best thing to do is post up your cycle in the steroid forum and let the more experienced members take a look. Good luck

S

Schwarz

12-04-2005, 07:42 AM

Well that's it ppl. Shot 25 and 26 done this week in the right and left quad respectively. Last week so I've only been injecting 250mg of test e...God I miss it already!!! This weeks training has been good. Made a small amount of progress on squats (max of 3 plates and a 2.5 for 6 reps), also managed to do 2.5 plates on bench for 8 reps (really getting to grips with bench pressing now), the 4 plates on deads again for 6 and d/b pressing the 100's for shoulders for 8 reps.

So now I'm looking forward to my PCT. I got 2 weeks of HCG followed by 4-5 weeks (depending on how I feel at the end of week 4) of clomid. Gonna take the final weight on Monday.

PCT here I come.

Cheers
S

RedBear3434

12-05-2005, 09:53 AM

good read man, Def thinking of running the same cycle for my first so this is very helpful.

Schwarz

12-05-2005, 10:17 AM

good read man, Def thinking of running the same cycle for my first so this is very helpful.

Cheers bro. Stick around for the PCT dramas.:aaGreen22

zomzom

12-05-2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by zomzom
Schwarz, I would like to know if you are sure about the Test Propionate 2x250mg per week?

I'd say so. best thing to do is post up your cycle in the steroid forum and let the more experienced members take a look. Good luck

S

I am just wondering if u re sure of it?

ScreaM

12-05-2005, 09:15 PM

Im really interested in PCT! Youve prepared your self to much to crash, i have a feeling youll do a great job coming off. Good luck!

Schwarz

12-06-2005, 04:58 AM

First shot of HCG done in right quad. Wondering what I'm gonna feel from it now....

Latest weight update...I'm at 108kg (237.6lbs). That makes a total gain of 18.6 lbs). Not bad for a first cycle I think.

Will update with any effects of HCG as and when they come in.

Cheers
S

Schwarz

12-06-2005, 05:19 AM

I am just wondering if u re sure of it?

Sorry bro my confusion. Test prop is fast acting so it needs to be administered more frequently. Here is an exerpt from Big Cat's test prop profile

"compared to enanthate and cypionate, propionate is a very short ester and is still released quite fast. As such more frequent injections are needed. Levels will peak after 24-36 hours and begin tapering from there on out, making the longest possible time-span between injections, at least or proper results, about 3 days. Most athletes will opt to inject 50-100 mg every day to every other day. "

As you can see he advises injections of 50-100 mg ed or eod. Here is the full article if you wanna read it http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cattestp.htm

S

Sorry for giving the bad advice before I was a bit all over the place that week.

Schwarz

12-09-2005, 11:37 AM

Second shot of HCG done in left glute. Every shot is getting really painful now and the scar tissue issue is getting really bad. I just hope I have enough space left on my body to do another cycle. It hurts like a fvcking bit*ch to inject nowadays. Oh well only another 2 shots left then I'm on the clomid and nolva.

I recon I lost about 35-40% of my nut size during my cycle. After this first week of HCG I recon I got a good 10-15% back which ain't bad. libido is strong. Strength and weight in the gym are holding up.

Cheers
S

Schwarz

12-12-2005, 11:40 AM

Just thought I'd update. A couple of sides that I'm experiencing from the HCG.

1. I seem to be really irritable since my last shot. Nothing has happened to irritate me but I find myself wanting to constantly hit something and really easily wound up. Don't worry I am keeping it under control and channelling it in the gym.. It's actually quiet good to feel like this. I'm always usually so melow I'm nearly horizontal!!

2. Since I started HCG I've had the runs!!!!! Not full blown but a definite change in bowel habits!!!!

Apart from this it seems to be working. I had an awesome back session on Friday. Deadlifted 4 plates again for 8, bent over db rowed the 130s for 8 and 4 plates on the lat machine (a pb for me) for 10 and all in the same session.

Chest tonight. Gonna see if I can push my benching a little more.

Cheers
S

zomzom

12-14-2005, 08:59 AM

how much hcg are u shooting?

Schwarz

12-14-2005, 09:31 AM

how much hcg are u shooting?

1500iu 2 times a week for 2 weeks

Schwarz

12-19-2005, 09:16 AM

So the last shot of HCG was last Friday. It was my last shot for the entire cycle...I miss it already!!

Nuts are looking good. I'd say I got most 80% of the size back. So Clomid should be able to do the rest (hopefully)! Training has been really good. Can't really say I've lost much strength and I've reduced my days down to 4 now to give my body extra time to recuperate.

The HCG sides also seem to have resolved themselved. irritability has been replaced with a new found confidence and drive in the gym and the runs have subsided. Unfortunetly that week or so of constant trips to the loo have cost me about 3-4lbs which ain't good. Gonna weigh myself tonight and hope I haven't lost anymore. I was seriously pissed off at that but sometimes there's nothing you can do but sit back and ride the storm!

I start Clomid tonight and I'm still debating whether to go with 200 or 250mg for the first day. I want to give my HPTA a really good kick up the arse but I'm worried about the blurred vision and emotional sides.

Will tune in tommorrow and let you know hoe I feel and decide on how much clomid I went with.

Cheers
S

Schwarz

12-21-2005, 10:51 AM

Ok well started clomid on Monday at a dose of 200mg. I've then lowered it to 150mg ed until Sunday. I was suprisingly nervous about this...even more nervous than injectng for the first time. I suppose I had read so much about clomid sides that I was cautious. It was funny on Tuesday morning after my first dose I sat in my bed trying to think of sad things to see if I would burst out crying....

Well been on it for 2 days now and don't really feel anything bad. I take my dose just before bed so that might be helping. Also I've never been very emotional anyway more the opposite really so shouldn't get any emotional problems hopefully.

The only thing I've noticed is that when I wake up in the morning my head feels kinda grogy and I feel a little disorientated for about 5 minutes.

Nuts are looking good and look like they are coming back to size nicely. Strength in the gym and size is holding.

Cheers
S

Schwarz

12-21-2005, 10:53 AM

Schwarz

01-03-2006, 09:58 AM

Sorry I haven't updated in a while. The xmas holidays have been frantic! Anyway I'm currently in week 3 of 5 weeks of clomid therapy. Started at 200mg, then droped to 150mg and am now on 100mg until the end of this week.

Can really say I've felt anything bad. I feel pretty upbeat, the nuts have definetly returned to normal size (actually I think they are bigger than before!!), I'm holding my weight and training is still good (not as intense but still lifting some good poundages). Only sides I have got is the ocassional headache but I expect that to subside when I drop to 50mg a day on Monday.

Apart from that everything is going well.

Thanks
S

ScreaM

01-04-2006, 12:31 PM

Congrats! Im glad your bouncing back good. Is that all your using, clomid, for PCT, and novla during the cycle? Anyways, great job...

ScreaM

Schwarz

01-05-2006, 03:43 AM

Congrats! Im glad your bouncing back good. Is that all your using, clomid, for PCT, and novla during the cycle? Anyways, great job...

ScreaM

Cheers bro. yer I do seem to be bouncing back really good. I'm using clomid and nolva during PCT (and remember I did HCG just before PCT started). I was really dreading PCT. Thought the Clomid would fvck me up and I'd be really depressed and loose all my weight. But none of that seems to have happened. Now I just have to finish up PCT and see what happens when I'm off everything!

Cheers
S

*Alex*

01-06-2006, 05:14 PM

nice post man, i would love to see those pix .before/ after!!!

ScreaM

01-12-2006, 12:47 PM

Would you mind Pm'in me a rough out line of your PCT?
Thanks bro,

ScreaM

Narkissos

01-12-2006, 10:16 PM

nice post man, i would love to see those pix .before/ after!!!

Ditto on this man..ditto

Schwarz

01-13-2006, 03:47 AM

Ditto on this man..ditto

I know bros...I'm just very shy! I'm gonna get them processed this weekend and decide whether they are good enough to put up....

As an update. Everything is going fine. I'm on my last week of PCT (now doing 50mg) and I feel fine. Weight is holding, no acne or other sides, balls are nice and plump again, I'm in a pretty good mood most of the time and training is going good. Hopefully by next week I'll be done. Clomid still not giving me any problems...I got a few headaches when I was on 200mg and 150mg but that's it. I had one night last week (when I was on 100mg) when I was getting the flashing lights thing.

Cheers
S

Schwarz

01-13-2006, 03:54 AM

Would you mind Pm'in me a rough out line of your PCT?
Thanks bro,

ScreaM

Ok PM on it's way bro.

S

*Alex*

01-14-2006, 04:15 PM

I know bros...I'm just very shy! I'm gonna get them processed this weekend and decide whether they are good enough to put up....

As an update. Everything is going fine. I'm on my last week of PCT (now doing 50mg) and I feel fine. Weight is holding, no acne or other sides, balls are nice and plump again, I'm in a pretty good mood most of the time and training is going good. Hopefully by next week I'll be done. Clomid still not giving me any problems...I got a few headaches when I was on 200mg and 150mg but that's it. I had one night last week (when I was on 100mg) when I was getting the flashing lights thing.

Cheers
S
ahhhhhhhhhh. dont be shy, we won't bite!

Narkissos

01-14-2006, 10:50 PM

ahhhhhhhhhh. dont be shy, we won't bite!

not on purpose at least.. lol

Schwarz

02-03-2006, 10:52 AM

Well I feel it's time to conclude this thread. I'ts been almost a month since my PCT and my journey ended. It's been a very interesting journey and has helped me to discover many things about myself and my bodybuilding aperations. I'd like to summarise for you some of these conclusions/discoveries:

Final update:
First let's start with a final update. Well since finishing PCT I've managed to hold onto my weight and actually add 0.4kg which ain't bad. I carried on with 20mg ed of nolvadex for one week after the end of clomid to be on the safe side. No sides to report and I feel fine.

I have to be honest and say I don't think I look as good as I did when I was on. My muscles had a fuller feeling and look. I'd even say that I look smaller now although neither the scales or tape measure agree with this conclusion. My strength took a bit of a dip (not much) about week 3 of my PCT but it seems to have bounced back these past 2 weeks and I am lifting just as heavy as I was while on AAS now in 90% of my lifts. The intensity of my workouts is still good but nowhere near where it was while on cycle.

Overall I am happy though. This cycle has given my physique a "kick up the backside" and really got me to the next level of development. I had definetly hit a plateau after 3.5 yrs of training and going from 120lbs to 219lbs.

Thoughts on the cycle generally:
I think the cycle went well overall. I am very proud of the way I went about it. I made sure I did my research, starting out investigating AAS very widely and trying to understand what each AAS did and how it worked and the potential risk vs rewards each one could give me. This then allowed me to choose the best AAS for me..ie the ones that would give me what I wanted in terms of fullfilling my goals but at the same time only exposing me to a level of risk I was prepared to take.

I was also pleased with the way I tried to cover every angle and possible side effect. I looked at prostate problems, hair loss, blood pressure, abscesses, gyno etc and formulated a plan to deal with each one eg finding out how abscesses occur, what they look like and how to treat them including knowing which medications are best and where I could reliably get them if needed. I don't think many ppl on this board think about these things and as a consequence panick when something does happen or aren't prepared for it. This is especially true when it comes to something as simple as using an anti e. I don't understand how ppl can use AAS without anti e (except those that don't convert to estrogen ofcourse) or atleast have it on hand and know how to run it if gyno or bloat should occur. I don't mean to rant here but I just think ppl are putting themselves at risk for no good reason.

One thing I would have done better though is to have choosen a better period for my cycle. As it worked out week 2 or 3 (I forget now) of my PCT feel right on the xmas holiday period and the gym was shut so I missed about 4 days of training. This could have been avoided.

Side effects:
I've divided these into 3 categories:

1. Physical - No real superficial sides here. A very little hair loss (like 5-10 hairs a week) but only in the first 3-4 weeks so I wan't sweating it. No real acne. I had maybe 10-12 spots on various parts of my body throughout the cycle.
I'm gonna get bloods done in about a months time to make sure everything is OK internally.

2. Phsychological - I was very concerned here because I have suffered from heavy depression in the past. I've never sought medical help for it or taken any medication. I have been very suprised though that both the AAS and even the PCT drugs made me feel really good and positive throughout. Even now I feel really very good mentally.

3. Emotional - Well to start with the PCT drugs didn't affect my emotional state whatsoever. I was really dreading clomid but it worked fine with no sides. This cycle has made me think long and hard about what I specifically want to get out of bodybuilding and reassess my long term bodybuilding goals. I've had to come to terms with a lot of emotional crap (I won't go into) while doing this. But I think now I've got it figured out.

Final thoughts
It's taken me several days to try and objectively answer this question. The AAS has definetly taken me to the next level and am already looking forward to my next cycle. I would definetly do it again and I know that as long as I'm responsible nothing bad should happen and even if it does I am prepared to take the consequences.

As a final note I'd like to thank all the mods and vets that have put this site together and continue to provide an environment where information is based on truth and experience as opposed to hysteria. Also a thankyou to all that have answered all my threads and provided me with useful information to guide me through my AAS use.

See you in August/September for cycle # 2.

Keep pumping iron!!!!

S