Ottawamuscle
10-06-2005, 03:35 PM
My first cycle results…
39 years old and have paid my dues in the gym naturally but would be considered as a hard gainer. I am in pretty good shape but stuck. Approx 3 years ago before the gym started I was 270…so I have come a long way naturally. When muscle does come on, it is dense and very lean. Weight at start of cycle was 203.5 with approx 13% - I am 6’2” . Cycle started Sept 2, 2005
My cycle?
Cycle was my first and was all oral - Dianabol, Winny and Anavar.
Dianabol lasted for 5 weeks at 30 mgs per day. Dianabol was tapered on and off (although the off was not as gradual as the on). I found best results when taken all at once in the morning. I tried timing it sometimes two to three hours before a work out but that seemed to make little difference. Milk thistle 2 x a day was added for good measure.
At week 4, I added Winny 40 mg per day.
At week 5, I added Anavar at 30 mgs per day.
Week 6 to 7 will be Winny and Anavar
Week 8 will be just Anavar.
Weeks 1 and 2, I had Clen tapered to and from 80 mgs per day.
At week 5, I added clen again tapered to and from 120 mgs per day. This will run for 3 to 4 weeks (at 40-60mgs / day) strictly for the anti-catabolic properties of clen.
Clomid will start Week 6 at 300 for Day 1 and 50 for approx 10 days.
Given that Winny and Anavar don’t interfere with the natural testosterone production, and the effects of a crash mitigated by the continuation of Winny and Anavar past the Dianabol and the Dianabol cycle was relatively short, I will be using natural products to boost testosterone (6-oxo) as well as the Clomid.
Sides?
Had none. I had no acne, a minor increase in back hair. Liver showed no signs of stress (short cycle). I did not experience puffy muscles. I believe that had I been leaner before the cycle I would have been ripped by the end. Veins were popping and muscle striations could be seen in my shoulders. This may be due to the fact that I am a natural lean muscle gainer (albeit a hard gainer) – not sure just guessing. Headaches from the Clen. Back cramps from the higher doses of Clen
Diet?
Ate clean oatmeal, whole wheat, good veggies, fish, chicken shrimp, steak. One cheat night allowed but it was still good food. Target was 4500 to 5000 cal per day over 6 meals. It’s hard to eat that much especially with the Clen. Averaged 350 g protein, 350 to 400 g carbs and 25 to 80 g good fats per day. About 100 to 150 g protein came from supplements as did a portion of the complex carbs. About 1000 cals came from supplements.
Supplements…Animal Paks (vitamins), SAN MyoDrive Gainer (this crap is amazing Carribean Berry), creatine, glutamine and Taurine for the Clen. 4 to 5 litres of water / day. For you Americans 1 gal = 3.75 litres.
Workouts?
5 to 6 days on 1 to 2 off. No cardio. Average length of a work out was 90 minutes. Chest/ Biceps, Legs/Back, Tri/Calves and Shoulders/Abs were typical splits. Usually 3 sets of 6 to 8 reps…tried 5 of 5 for a while…not convinced of that one.
My results. Measurements taken Oct 5, 2005. 227lbs for an increase of 23.5 lbs (highest during cycle was 230). Body fat basically unchanged at 14%!. Added half inch to each calve, 1 ½ inches to each thigh, 1 ½ inches on my butt, hips plus 1 inch, waist down one inch, arms plus 1 inch each, forearms plus ½ inch each., chest up 3 inches, shoulders up 4 inches.
Overall…I’d say I did alright. Wife likes it! People look at you a who lot differently with veins popping out your arms and shoulders!
Next cycle…Tren/Winny/Anavar or Tren/Primobolan/Anavar or OT for 8 weeks…may Tri-Tren if I can afford it. Have a beach to be on in Feb 06!
39 years old and have paid my dues in the gym naturally but would be considered as a hard gainer. I am in pretty good shape but stuck. Approx 3 years ago before the gym started I was 270…so I have come a long way naturally. When muscle does come on, it is dense and very lean. Weight at start of cycle was 203.5 with approx 13% - I am 6’2” . Cycle started Sept 2, 2005
My cycle?
Cycle was my first and was all oral - Dianabol, Winny and Anavar.
Dianabol lasted for 5 weeks at 30 mgs per day. Dianabol was tapered on and off (although the off was not as gradual as the on). I found best results when taken all at once in the morning. I tried timing it sometimes two to three hours before a work out but that seemed to make little difference. Milk thistle 2 x a day was added for good measure.
At week 4, I added Winny 40 mg per day.
At week 5, I added Anavar at 30 mgs per day.
Week 6 to 7 will be Winny and Anavar
Week 8 will be just Anavar.
Weeks 1 and 2, I had Clen tapered to and from 80 mgs per day.
At week 5, I added clen again tapered to and from 120 mgs per day. This will run for 3 to 4 weeks (at 40-60mgs / day) strictly for the anti-catabolic properties of clen.
Clomid will start Week 6 at 300 for Day 1 and 50 for approx 10 days.
Given that Winny and Anavar don’t interfere with the natural testosterone production, and the effects of a crash mitigated by the continuation of Winny and Anavar past the Dianabol and the Dianabol cycle was relatively short, I will be using natural products to boost testosterone (6-oxo) as well as the Clomid.
Sides?
Had none. I had no acne, a minor increase in back hair. Liver showed no signs of stress (short cycle). I did not experience puffy muscles. I believe that had I been leaner before the cycle I would have been ripped by the end. Veins were popping and muscle striations could be seen in my shoulders. This may be due to the fact that I am a natural lean muscle gainer (albeit a hard gainer) – not sure just guessing. Headaches from the Clen. Back cramps from the higher doses of Clen
Diet?
Ate clean oatmeal, whole wheat, good veggies, fish, chicken shrimp, steak. One cheat night allowed but it was still good food. Target was 4500 to 5000 cal per day over 6 meals. It’s hard to eat that much especially with the Clen. Averaged 350 g protein, 350 to 400 g carbs and 25 to 80 g good fats per day. About 100 to 150 g protein came from supplements as did a portion of the complex carbs. About 1000 cals came from supplements.
Supplements…Animal Paks (vitamins), SAN MyoDrive Gainer (this crap is amazing Carribean Berry), creatine, glutamine and Taurine for the Clen. 4 to 5 litres of water / day. For you Americans 1 gal = 3.75 litres.
Workouts?
5 to 6 days on 1 to 2 off. No cardio. Average length of a work out was 90 minutes. Chest/ Biceps, Legs/Back, Tri/Calves and Shoulders/Abs were typical splits. Usually 3 sets of 6 to 8 reps…tried 5 of 5 for a while…not convinced of that one.
My results. Measurements taken Oct 5, 2005. 227lbs for an increase of 23.5 lbs (highest during cycle was 230). Body fat basically unchanged at 14%!. Added half inch to each calve, 1 ½ inches to each thigh, 1 ½ inches on my butt, hips plus 1 inch, waist down one inch, arms plus 1 inch each, forearms plus ½ inch each., chest up 3 inches, shoulders up 4 inches.
Overall…I’d say I did alright. Wife likes it! People look at you a who lot differently with veins popping out your arms and shoulders!
Next cycle…Tren/Winny/Anavar or Tren/Primobolan/Anavar or OT for 8 weeks…may Tri-Tren if I can afford it. Have a beach to be on in Feb 06!