my DNP journal

[bigbouncinballs]

seeing as how everyone abandons these threads i will make every effort to keep this up. the dnp comes in a day or two and i will be starting then. day 1 and day 2 at 200mg/day and the rest of the 10-12 day cycle at 400mg(keepin it low and safe)
it is probably good to mention that the dnp i am using is the crystal stuff, not the powder. have water, multivitamins and multiminerals, fruit, nannas, v8, and possibly some t3(haven't decided). all systems should be go shortly with pics to follow.

[TheMudMan]

Sounds good........ Good luck.

[Narkissos]

looking foward to the log... AND the pics man

:thumbsup:

[bigbouncinballs]

ok, didn't forget about it, stuff just hasn't come in yet. planned to start on monday, i will post up some pics then.
until then, lemme know if there's anything i forgot or any recommendations as this is my first time.
thnx

[TheMudMan]

Keep us posted.......... sounds like you have it all planned out well.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 1

ingested 200mg dnp at 7:45pm. i had class all day and will be up studyin till 2 or 3 so i figured i'd start now.
also took 2 multi-vitamin/mulit-mineral and filled the gallon.
will head to the gym in a couple hours, weigh in and snap a few starter pics.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 1(continued)

weighin in at 263.5lbs
took some pics but gotta load em... so far nothin, just drinkin a bizzutload of water. goin to sleep, see y'all tomorrah!

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 2
ingested 200mgs dnp at 11:00am.
took my multis

had a few little heat flashes here and there but nothing uncomfortable. plenty of energy.
heading off to the gym in an hour or so to get the weight.

forgot to mention in the previous posts. am currently on week five of 1750mg
sust/week and 700mgs tren/week.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 2(continued)

ingested 200mgs at around 8pm. definitely gettin warmer, still comes in flashes but longer periods of flashes if that makes any sense. feel bloated in all the wrong places. weight is at 259lbs but waist jumped up an inch or more...?
little bit of lethargy.
workout was fine, just a bit of heavier than usual breathing.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 3

first day in classes. consistently on the hotter side.. kind of a clammy feeling, like ur just about to break out in sweat but not just yet.

ingested 200mgs at 11am

drinkin about 3 gallons a day with plenty of multis.

will weigh in later tonight post-workout


is anybody readin this thing??!!????

[big L 17]

i am reading it

[Narkissos]

I am too.. but having never used DNP, i haven't much to add.

' cept Good luck

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 3(continued)

200mgs dnp at 9pm
was in class all day and got a pretty bed headache around five pm. wasn't sure if i was holdin water and the blood pressure was up or if i was dehydrated. got an extra gallon in and the headache went away.

so far, occassional hot periods, especially after a brisk walk to class. still sleep just fine with little sweat.. but i keep it cold and sleep on top of the covers.

didn't workout yesterday so no weigh-in.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 4

200mgs dnp 830am.
if the other eight days go this easy i'm gonna have to say the sides aren't as bad as i was expectin... then again i am taking the crystal and the consensus seems to be that the crystal is much cleaner, less sides.
i feel just fine, healthy and active. slightly more lethargic at times but nothin i can't handle. will update tonights workout and weight.

gotta work tonight at the bar so hopefully no one gets outta hand... don't wanna be huffin and puffin as i'm breakin it down! :)

haven't eaten any fruit or v8 yet... i should get on that.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 4(continued)

200mgs dnp at 1am
weight 257.5lbs
feel bloated, waist is tight in pants. spouts of lethargy, almost like u have to go to sleep right that instant and the head tilts a little as the eyelids close. a little hot and sticky for most of the day but nothing that uncomfortable.
workout went great, went high speed cuz i was running late for work, finished arms in record speed, very little shortness of breath.
still no major sides at 400mgs/day. will continue till day twelve as planned.

[niXon)(]

great log dude! you're explaining all the symptoms perfect. like im there with you LOL.

[bigbouncinballs]

great log dude! you're explaining all the symptoms perfect. like im there with you LOL.
likin ur avatar... that's milftastic!:7up:

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 5

weighin in at 259.2 dunno what's up with that!
definitely noticeable fatigue that at times is moderately inconvenient.
also notice the heavy breathing, especially after sex... couple days ago i was a stallion in the sack... now we finish and i hop up huffin and puffin for like five minutes straight all while tryin to suck down as much water as possible... i get sooooo thirsty after sex... dunno.
anyway, i think anymore than 400mg/day for me would be inconvenient enough to cease ingestion. the warmness is fine and barely noticeable sometimies but the workouts are gettin harder and harder and the heavy breathin is just ridiculous.
also dunno why i gained weight. my weight pre-dnp usually fluctuated but stayed around 260 so i don't know what's goin on... for any of u that have done this, is there noticeable fat loss while on cycle or do u pretty much look the same?
maybe i'm doin something wrong...

[chest6]

Im readin it to to let you know..interesting stuff. Very good log..keep it up

[Narkissos]

the weight-gain could be sodium/water retention...try to increase your water intake a bit more mang.

[bigbouncinballs]

will do nark!

Day 6

appetite not up like i had expected. neither do i have those carb cravings i've been hearing about. that bein said today was a no diet day. ate a big ole plate o mexican food, a large thin crust pepperoni pizza, two lean cuisine swedish meatball tv dinners, bunch of prot. shakes...
do have a wierd rash thing circling my underarms.. kinda like a bright red halo encirlcling what would be my armpit hair had i not shaved it. don't know what that is.
figured out why people were sayin this stuff turns ur urine flourescent... cuz they weren't drinkin enough water, yesterday i was down on the water and that shite came out glowin!
no workout today so no weigh in... hopefully tomorrow will yield some improvement, although with todays caloric intake i doubt it.

lethargy not so much a problem today until later... coffee that usually keeps me goin after 8pm lasted about an hour!
heat is totally manageable.

see y'all manana!

[dr_skier]

Bro i'm on day 5 and i hear ya... i'm running 200mg/day.... gained 1lb.... not eating crazy but i cant get more than 20--25mins of cardio after lifting without being exhausted, even at my dose.... i am keeping lifting at 12-15rep range 3-4 exercises 4 sets..... so the lifting is taking 40-50mins followed by my cardio.. feels good though, just like acomplished something tired ya know... yeah i'm stupidly thirsty, i'm thristy as i type this.. and as for the sex thing, i went down on my girl last night and that caused me to huff and puff lol.... she was then instructed to take the top... Good luck on your Cycle!! (how much cardio are you doing? and what kind of lifting?)

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 7

two term papers due tomorrow so no liftin or weighin in. do notice the less water i drink the more hot i am. appetite still the same.

dr. skier, i am not doin any cardio. i wanted to see what the dnp could do. i sex it up for about 45mins/day huffin and puffin and my workouts are huffin and puffin for about an hour a day if that counts as cardio.

will weigh in tomorrow and see how things are... five more days and i'm hopin to lose ten total pounds once the water comes off.

possible?

[dr_skier]

possible, for sure (from what i've read anyways) but what starting BF weight and height are you?... outta curiosity, i'm 6'4" 265 ~ 13%.... i think it's eaiser when you have more fat to loose, or the doses are higher for longer... the next time around i'll do 400 for 14 days, this time round was to see how my body reacts.

[bigbouncinballs]

possible, for sure (from what i've read anyways) but what starting BF weight and height are you?... outta curiosity, i'm 6'4" 265 ~ 13%.... i think it's eaiser when you have more fat to loose, or the doses are higher for longer... the next time around i'll do 400 for 14 days, this time round was to see how my body reacts.
agreed, i might run same dose longer next time, just didn't wanna push it the first time.
i am 6'1" and started at 263.5lbs at aproximately 12%bf(about the same as the picture... that is a rough estimate i could be way off)

Day 8

unfortunately i still can't get enough time to workout so no weight... maybe i'll be pleasantly surprised tomorrow. one more paper to finish for tomorrow's class and i can workout! today it was col, like 20, and snowing. all bundled up and hustling to and from classes had me arriving in my seat in a pool of sweat that wouldn't let up for the entire hour fifteen minutes. definitely like the mild temperatures while on this. too cold or too hot is too uncomfortable.
wierd rash under arm is letting up but still very sensitive and red... dunno what it is.
ate like shit today, this is usually not the case as i eat clean for most of the year but no time=no cooking=fast food to get through the week, should clean up about thursday.

thinkin bout adding about three days to make a total of fifteen... whadya all think? the sides are completely bearable so i don't see the harm as long as my supplementary regimen is up to par.

lemme know. will have weight tomorrow!

[mitch911]

agreed, i might run same dose longer next time, just didn't wanna push it the first time.
i am 6'1" and started at 263.5lbs at aproximately 12%bf(about the same as the picture... that is a rough estimate i could be way off)

Day 8

unfortunately i still can't get enough time to workout so no weight... maybe i'll be pleasantly surprised tomorrow. one more paper to finish for tomorrow's class and i can workout! today it was col, like 20, and snowing. all bundled up and hustling to and from classes had me arriving in my seat in a pool of sweat that wouldn't let up for the entire hour fifteen minutes. definitely like the mild temperatures while on this. too cold or too hot is too uncomfortable.
wierd rash under arm is letting up but still very sensitive and red... dunno what it is.
ate like shit today, this is usually not the case as i eat clean for most of the year but no time=no cooking=fast food to get through the week, should clean up about thursday.

thinkin bout adding about three days to make a total of fifteen... whadya all think? the sides are completely bearable so i don't see the harm as long as my supplementary regimen is up to par.

lemme know. will have weight tomorrow!do u loook any leaner tho ?

[bigbouncinballs]

do u loook any leaner tho ?
a bit but nothin drastic... that's what i'm confused about, i know i'm holdin water but i don't know how to gauge the progress... should i be seeing a steady loss of subq fat? are the results even noticeable while still on the cycle? i definitely have that un-full feeling in the muscles... assuming this is the depleted glycogen stores the dnp is doing what it is supposed to. can't wait to fill up again, miss that full feeling.

so to answer ur question, yes, in certain areas i see a little change: arm/shoulder connection, chest and traps... but the problem areas of lower back, some upper back and lower abdominals seems to be thinner but not noticeably leaner...

whatever, we'll see.

[mitch911]

yea id say with the carb depletion seeing as the dnp will burn any carb injested and will not store so ur muscles arent full meaning ur not tight that plus the water will prob make u look bad maybe even worse...ur gunna take some pics week or 2 after u stop right ?

[bigbouncinballs]

yep, took a starting pic, then will take a day twelve pic at last dose and then a 22day pic when all the water should pretty much be off.
crossin my fingers.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 9

lethargy becoming more noticeable... had a hard time gettin to the gym but did.
weight: 257.3lbs
felt a little tighter in the gym today but nothin to write home about. had a new vein in the chest which is good...
all in all i need to lose another four pounds to hit my goal of a ten pound loss... still kickin around the idea of extending it three days to make a total of fifteen.
assessment thus far: dnp is great! sides (at least with the crystal dnp) are minimal at 400mgs/day and heat is absolutely manageable.
we'll see what i look like when the water comes off and i get some carb fullness back to in me.

[Narkissos]

How long were you at 400 mg?

I swore you were using 200

[bigbouncinballs]

How long were you at 400 mg?

I swore you were using 200
i took 200mg my first day to see how i would react, waited 24 hours and then took a total of 200mg twice a day for the rest of the days. today is day 10 so i have been at 400mg for nine days. i definitely didn't want to go higher than 400mg/day and i won't this cycle or probably any other cycle as i see no need in making greater risks while 400mg/day seems to work just fine with manageable sides. will probably continue for another five days but may just stop at day twelve... still haven't decided. :scratch:

[bigbouncinballs]

so its day 10 but this isn't the update. been havin a pretty sore throat lately for pretty much the last two days... didn't worry bout it until i heard my buddy who's takin 200mgs is gettin pretty sick too... problem is he hasn't gotten much sleep lately cuz of work and finals soo i dunno....

anyway, point is the longer on seems to equal more stereotypical sides and more of em.

[xtinaunasty]

a bit but nothin drastic... that's what i'm confused about, i know i'm holdin water but i don't know how to gauge the progress... should i be seeing a steady loss of subq fat? are the results even noticeable while still on the cycle? i definitely have that un-full feeling in the muscles... assuming this is the depleted glycogen stores the dnp is doing what it is supposed to. can't wait to fill up again, miss that full feeling.

so to answer ur question, yes, in certain areas i see a little change: arm/shoulder connection, chest and traps... but the problem areas of lower back, some upper back and lower abdominals seems to be thinner but not noticeably leaner...

whatever, we'll see.

wassup bbb? now's a perfect time to run dnp...the weather here is just frigid! I opened my porch door for a few seconds and i could see my breath while watchin tv. brrrr!

anyway dont worry about not seein results right now. during cycle you are all flat because, like you mentioned, your glycogen stores are depleted. Plus, you retain a shit load of water. Expect to peak around days 5-7 after you take your last dose. You wont be dissapointed, especially with crystal. This is all just "what I hear" though ;)

Did you decide to take some T3 while on? Any other supps like potassium or NAC? You may want to experiment with more supplimentation next cycle...but don't get too out of hand, a lot of people go overboard with the supps.

Where are your pics man?

[Narkissos]

the sore throat may be an alergic reaction..watch that..and keep your antihistamines nearby.

[bigbouncinballs]

wassup bbb? now's a perfect time to run dnp...the weather here is just frigid! I opened my porch door for a few seconds and i could see my breath while watchin tv. brrrr!

anyway dont worry about not seein results right now. during cycle you are all flat because, like you mentioned, your glycogen stores are depleted. Plus, you retain a shit load of water. Expect to peak around days 5-7 after you take your last dose. You wont be dissapointed, especially with crystal. This is all just "what I hear" though ;)

Did you decide to take some T3 while on? Any other supps like potassium or NAC? You may want to experiment with more supplimentation next cycle...but don't get too out of hand, a lot of people go overboard with the supps.

Where are your pics man?
tell me about it! the high yesterday was 6... that's it... 6... it's freakin freezin here.
i expected the flat look and different parts of my body to bloat and to even look worse for a little bit... but i did expect to see a little improvement while on and i don't know if i'm not doin it right or this is the norm.
as far as supps i'm only takin multivitamin/minerals. i've got enough t3 layin around to kill a horse but i figured i'm puttin enough stuff into the ole body right now, why add more.
and yes, i have pics.. although i'd really like to see a leaner me before i post em comparison style:wg:

hey tina, u go to the npc show saturday?

[bigbouncinballs]

the sore throat may be an alergic reaction..watch that..and keep your antihistamines nearby.
u reckon i should start takin some benadryl to be on the safe side?

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 10

weighed in at 256.6lbs so down almost a pound from yesterday.
diet was shit again today... i wouldn't exactly call it carb cravings, more like i need food and i don't care... again, this is not the norm, finals fvck everything up and i haven't had time to go to the grocery store.
so another large thin crust pizza and a hot fudge sunday from mcdonalds made me feel nice and fat.
unless i lose three pounds in two days i'm gonna stay on for fifteen days to try and reach that 10pound loss goal while on and see what comes as the water leaves.
still haven't done any cardio besides sex and liftin... not that i'm proud of not doing cardio, just letting y'all know.
still don't feel i'm gettin enough water,
still have a bit of a sore throat,
still lethargic but not to the point of doin nothin
still hate bein hot when its really cold out.
still the same ole g but i'm low key
werd

[xtinaunasty]

tell me about it! the high yesterday was 6... that's it... 6... it's freakin freezin here.
i expected the flat look and different parts of my body to bloat and to even look worse for a little bit... but i did expect to see a little improvement while on and i don't know if i'm not doin it right or this is the norm.
as far as supps i'm only takin multivitamin/minerals. i've got enough t3 layin around to kill a horse but i figured i'm puttin enough stuff into the ole body right now, why add more.
and yes, i have pics.. although i'd really like to see a leaner me before i post em comparison style:wg:

hey tina, u go to the npc show saturday?

Don't worry about seeing results. You'll see em. But when 'my friend' does a cycle he looks worse for the 1-2 weeks he is on. Its like he gains 10lbs for a short time then a week after he loses that 10lbs plus the weight he lost from the cycle. So its a drastic improvement. Everyone is like 'what diet are you on?" 'how'd you do it?' :D

Benadryl might help with the ring around your armpits. But nark is right, you need antioxidants. Blueberries and other fruit are excellent. Your cycle is almost over though so it prolly wont make a difference this time. I would include some vit c and fruit next time. Maybe it will prevent the sore throat.

[bigbouncinballs]

Don't worry about seeing results. You'll see em. But when 'my friend' does a cycle he looks worse for the 1-2 weeks he is on. Its like he gains 10lbs for a short time then a week after he loses that 10lbs plus the weight he lost from the cycle. So its a drastic improvement. Everyone is like 'what diet are you on?" 'how'd you do it?' :D

Benadryl might help with the ring around your armpits. But nark is right, you need antioxidants. Blueberries and other fruit are excellent. Your cycle is almost over though so it prolly wont make a difference this time. I would include some vit c and fruit next time. Maybe it will prevent the sore throat.
good to know... i feel all disproportionate. my waist is puffier and bigger and my shoulders are smaller... the wrong things are happening in all the wrong places.
and the wierd armpit halo is gone... that's what i get for switchin from regular man-soap to i'm-a-girl bodywash. switched back and everything's fine.
will update tonight after weigh-in

[Narkissos]

But nark is right, you need antioxidants. Blueberries and other fruit are excellent. Your cycle is almost over though so it prolly wont make a difference this time. I would include some vit c and fruit next time. Maybe it will prevent the sore throat.

Shit..you read my mind :D

I think it does matter at this point..as DNP serum levels will be high for a couple days after his cycle ends.

BB up your anti-O amounts.

I'm thinking along the lines of C- 5 grams; E-1000 IUs.

Holla

[xtinaunasty]

I think it does matter at this point..as DNP serum levels will be high for a couple days after his cycle ends.


True.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 11

no workout=no weigh in
can hardly tell i'm on it anymore which is good, but bad cuz i forget to keep up the water intake.
got me some benadryl that i just took before i go to sleep so i'll hit that for a few. these caps have an anti-ox blend in them that includes quercitin, brocolli extract and a few other things, u probably know who there from. will def go and purchase some extra E and C though so thanks for the headsup.
four more days for three more pounds

[Narkissos]

You can do it man... :thumbsup:

Don't skimp on the water nor anti-Os.

You're on the home-straight now.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 12

too much school work, no weighin.. and this one was gonna decide whether i continue another three days or not.
so to err on the unwise side i'll assume i didn't hit the ten pounds and continue for a total of fifteen days. throat has stayed the same. got some C and E and takin the benadryl at night... that shite is no joke. last night it made me so tired i couldn't sleep...what's up with that!
three more days to get to 253.5lbs
wish me luck and thanks for the kind words nark!

[goose]

One of the best antioxidants is Green tea,great thread.So really dude, how bad are the sides? Do you think it`s worth it?

goose4............

[xtinaunasty]

i bet you will be on the lower end of 240's a week after you're done. but i think 15 days is still safe...I wouldnt go much further though. Are the night sweats keeping you up?

[bigbouncinballs]

MISSION ABORTED

woke up today, day 13 with a horrible headache that didn't go away with lotsa water, was probably just some severe caffiene withdrawal as i drank some yesterday and rarely do. nevertheless, the mix of tren sleeplessness, dnp nightsweats and heat flashes, benadryl tiredness and pissin every half an hour was enough to have me throwin in the towel.
just felt i wasn't in control of the situation anymore. the throat and head congestion has gotten fairly annoying, haven't been able to go to the gym as much.... there are plenty of reasons. bottom line, i figured another pound or two wasn't worth how my body felt.

finding out this 25pager isn't writing itself so again, no gym which means no weight. already today i feel better. i haven't had the hot flashes at all. last dose was last night at around 10pm.

oh yeah, forgot to mention, on top of all the other minor complications my injections for some reason weren't going as smooth as well...? i stick 1ml of tren ace 100mg and 1ml sus250 a day and usually goes in like butta but the last four shots in chest and bi's have been severely uncomfortable... the right bi has a bruise the size of a quarter??? dunno...

anywho, will update with weight each day for the next five to ten and then post pics.

[bigbouncinballs]

One of the best antioxidants is Green tea,great thread.So really dude, how bad are the sides? Do you think it`s worth it?

goose4............
to be honest the sides were minimal and completely doable until the ninth and tenth days... again, i'm takin the crystal, i've heard otherwise from powder users. the heat wasn't bad at all at 400mg/day and i'm one of those people who's ALWAYS hot. just seems like the stuff built up in my system and waited till day 10 to wreak havoc. still wasnt' that bad though, about the same as a head cold. was it worth it? depends on the final weigh-in. i was shootin for ten pounds and by the looks of it i think i'll exceed it by a few so i'd say right now, yes, it was definitely worth it.

[bigbouncinballs]

i bet you will be on the lower end of 240's a week after you're done. but i think 15 days is still safe...I wouldnt go much further though. Are the night sweats keeping you up?
they were starting too... mighta been the tren though! 240's... that's tiny!!!

anybody have any suggestions as to diet for the days coming off... thinkin of waiting a week and then hitting two days of some slin to get my glycogen stores back up... haven't read much on the post-diet so anything would help.

[xtinaunasty]

five days after your cycle has stopped you should carb load. this is what I found in one of the dnp guides on this board. im sure you have read it before but just in case, i will copy and paste:

Phase 4: The 2 day Post DNP Phase.

The whole purpose of this phase is to get muscle-glycogen levels back to normal. The Ketogenic carb-up can be used as a sort of template for this phase.

After Phases two and three, muscle-glycogen levels are depressed and need to be replenished.

Day 15: Carb-intake should be 7g/Kg of LBM (lean body mass = bodyweight minus body fat.) So assuming a 220 lb bodybuilder has 0% body fat, lol, he would consume 700 g of Carbs. Protein-intake remains at 1g/lb and fat is restricted as low as possible.
The focus on day 1 should be on High-GI foods like Fat-free Ice-cream and all the other non-fat high sugar desserts. Calories should be around 4000 for the 220-lb bodybuilder -- in other words, 18X bodyweight in lbs.

Drastically restricting fat is CRITICAL here, as the body is still burning fat for fuel as you replenish your glycogen stores. In essence, the dieter is still losing fat while carbing up.

Day 16: Muscle-glycogen has increased, so carb-intake should be decreased from day one?s 7g/Kg to only 5g/Kg of LBM. That would be 500g for our 220-lb bodybuilder. Protein is 1g/lb again. Fat remains as low as possible. Kcals for the dieter are reduced to 3000 Kcal range, or around 14X Bodyweight in lbs. The focus of Day 2 should be low-GI foods like vegetables, milk, lean meats etc.

full thread: http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.php?p=1518454&postcount=11

[bigbouncinballs]

thnx tina... u nasty!!!

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 14 (2 days off)

feel much better, still really congested but throat is getting better. no hot flashes at all and already sleeping a bit better.

weight: 254.9lbs

i know, i know, i definitely hoped for better but i also am the first to admit that my diet was pretty sub-par this run. and that was kind of the point i guess, to find out what the compound can do if all else stays the same(diet was significantly worse but cardio was at the same level as off dnp)

still a bit slow in the gym, can't catch my breath as quick, feel like a fat man at a buffet... all heavin and sweatin!

definitely feel i lost some size with the carb depletion thing... most evident in the shoulders right now but we'll see how things go.

shoulders tomorrow so i'll update same time same place.

werd

[Narkissos]

BBB

i moved this thread here just for you:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=145408

For future use.

[bigbouncinballs]

BBB

i moved this thread here just for you:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=145408

For future use.
thnx brutha! i definitely like the idea of a lower dosed longer cycle or ten days at 400mg/day. live and learn. will also definitely add t3 next time.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 15 (3 days off)

weight: 254.5
lost half a pound... progress is progress so i can't complain. still real heavy breathing and tiredness in the gym... still huffin and puffin after sex... cough has gotten worse but throat has gotten better. igf is comin in a day or two so will start that and 100mg winny/day to finish out the sus/tren cycle. can definitely see a little fat loss in the back love handles and can feel it in the abs... although was hoping for better.

synopsis thus far... you could probably lose a lot of fat on this stuff if you do everything right... and if you don't do anything different you can still lose what's lookin like ten pounds.

1 full pound to lose to reach my goal.... sounds feasible right?

pics coming soon.

[scriptfactory]

Great progress, man! I've heard that if you have a higher BF% DNP works much better, so 10lbs. is pretty damn good if you started as lean as you are in that avatar.

[EdMan2]

I really want to see how this cycle turned out, are pics on the way?

[bigbouncinballs]

I really want to see how this cycle turned out, are pics on the way?
they are definitely on the way, i wanted to wait for one whole week to let the water go but i think its just about gone. today is five days off and i'll post weight and such tonight so two more days and pics'll be up.

thnx for postin, its good to know that some people are readin this cuz i scroll through and its mostly me:rolleyes:

[xtinaunasty]

ive been reading! i think its great...most people abandon the DNP threads. Nice to see some follow through

[Narkissos]

ive been reading! i think its great...most people abandon the DNP threads. Nice to see some follow through

ditto...



(shameless bump for pics :wg: )

[EdMan2]

they are definitely on the way, i wanted to wait for one whole week to let the water go but i think its just about gone. today is five days off and i'll post weight and such tonight so two more days and pics'll be up.

thnx for postin, its good to know that some people are readin this cuz i scroll through and its mostly me:rolleyes:

Great work, i've definitely been reading. Like xtina said, it's good to see someone do a dnp cycle log and actually keep it updated and post pics.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 17 (5 days off)

trying to finish last term paper of the semester so haven't gotten to the gym yet. if i do i will update weight.

broke down and did 5iu's slin with a bit of some simple sugars and a few complex carbs, zero fat, 15g of creatine and a buttload of prot. to get full again. will repeat with 10iu's tomorrow.

at seven days off i'll post pics although i'm not exactly ecstatic about it right now. still expected better results.. but didn't work hard enough to get them. back to normal pretty much except the cough at night and the worst chapped lips i've ever had in my life. they're so dry they're red. i swear, everytime i lick em it looks like i've got freakin lipstick on!

dunno...

holla

[xtinaunasty]

i have that too...i think its the weather.

[bigbouncinballs]

i have that too...i think its the weather.
yeah, lucky for you lipstick is expected... looks like i didn't wash up from a drag show the night before:1laugh:

[xtinaunasty]

yeah, lucky for you lipstick is expected... looks like i didn't wash up from a drag show the night before:1laugh:

:lol:

[Narkissos]

yeah, lucky for you lipstick is expected... looks like i didn't wash up from a drag show the night before:1laugh:

:haha:

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 18 ( 6 days off)

weight: 256.1 muthafvcka i knew i overdid it with those carbs last night. don't have my blood glucose monitor anymore so couldn't be exact with the slin.

anybody know how long one is supposed to be off before starting another cycle? i would really like to put in the effort this time as schools over and i have the time to do it right.

[xtinaunasty]

1 to 2 weeks should be ample time "off" 1 week in your case because your cycle wasn't too harsh. 2 weeks is to be safe and for the higher dose/short cycle peeps. but next time i recommend paying more attention to your diet/workouts/supps...the more you put in, the more you get out. good results overall though, for your first cycle.

[bigbouncinballs]

yeah, i'm thinkin twenty to thirty minutes fatburnin zone cardio everyday
10 days dnp @400mg/day
25mcg t3/day
i'm back to eating clean just gotta cut out more carbs
vit C/ed
vit C/ed
emergen-C/eod

i guess when all's said and done, 8pounds off while eating pizza, taco bell, those really good fudge sundaes from mcdonalds, and doing zero cardio isn't that bad. pics to follow in the morning when i'm not lookin my worst and i can't hide anything with a pump :)

[Narkissos]

I don't know how long one should wait.

Any vision abnormalities thus far?

Congrats on the weight-loss man. :thumbsup:

[bigbouncinballs]

I don't know how long one should wait.

Any vision abnormalities thus far?

Congrats on the weight-loss man. :thumbsup:
no, not yet, and that was something that really kept me from goin to the higher doses... all my life i had 20/400 vision, legally blind without contacts or glasses, then i got the lasik thing done two years ago and both eyes are right at 20/20 so i definitely didn't wanna mess with a good thing.

i'd like to feel worthy of your congratulations but i keep gaining. i just weighed in at 256.9... almost a full freakin pound in one day. my diet is clean, there is no way i could have put a pound of fat back on in 24 hours so i'm a bit befuddled. i don't look any fatter in the morning when i do my little check so i'd like to know what the hell is going on. regardless, i'm gonna hop back on for ten days this monday and work my fat-ass off to get the results i'm hoping for.

tryin to work up the courage to post the pics. just not happy with the results... i'll take em tomorrow morning and hopefully get em up by evening before i get even fatter:shrug:

[xtinaunasty]

welcome to the water retention roller coaster women go through constantly. dnp caused mad water retention while you were on your cycle...then when you came off, your body let go of the excess water and probably then some. so i would say your gain in 1 pound was just your electrolyte and water levels getting back to normal. 7 lbs is great for the dose you ran. good luck with your next one though! :thumbsup:

[bigbouncinballs]

welcome to the water retention roller coaster women go through constantly. dnp caused mad water retention while you were on your cycle...then when you came off, your body let go of the excess water and probably then some. so i would say your gain in 1 pound was just your electrolyte and water levels getting back to normal. 7 lbs is great for the dose you ran. good luck with your next one though! :thumbsup:
thank you much for the words of encouragement... i see how this could be ridiculously frustrating.:icon_piss

[mitch911]

would sitting in a sauna help shed some of this water or say just massive amount of exercise like running instead of walking for the cardio for say 2 or 3 days?

[xtinaunasty]

sauna's better, but i wouldnt recommend it if you're on DNP!!!!!

[mitch911]

hahah yeaino that be just like drinking while on dnp baaaadddd

[Narkissos]

I wouldn't even recommend trying to shed the water

It'll come off shortly.

The water rebound is the body's coping mechanism.

Please bear in mind that for the last week and some you've be in a quasi-feverous state.

Allow your body the time it needs to readjust.

Supplement with more water..and wait.

Good luck BB.

~Nark

[mitch911]

hey nark ...a buddy of mine just did a cycle he actually dnt bloat while on the cycle he wasnt eating strict diet clean but wasnt a full binge everyday either...on his last day tho he decided to have some fun with us and just go nuts and eat pizza and cake to get through the exams and what not...now he looks like he pregnant and looks like he has a good sack of water where he use to have visible abs during the cycle...why did this happen been about 4 days still not nearly as diced as he was lookin on cycle

[Narkissos]

water rebound happens post cycle... he'll be good at like day 10 ...14 days max i believe

[goose]

What do you people think of running DNP with slin? I hear slin compliments the DNP well,hence,feeling well on the cycle.

goose4............

[bigbouncinballs]

I wouldn't even recommend trying to shed the water

It'll come off shortly.

The water rebound is the body's coping mechanism.

Please bear in mind that for the last week and some you've be in a quasi-feverous state.

Allow your body the time it needs to readjust.

Supplement with more water..and wait.

Good luck BB.

~Nark
thnx bro, helpful advice.

[mitch911]

any pics bro ?

[BajanBastard]

Good thread. You were going though the same thing i was. I had to quit after 5 days though. It's hot and my job requires a lot of outdoor running. At one time (day 3 i think) i had to sprint up a hill. I thought i was going to die.

[goose]

Good thread. You were going though the same thing i was. I had to quit after 5 days though. It's hot and my job requires a lot of outdoor running. At one time (day 3 i think) i had to sprint up a hill. I thought i was going to die.



How did you run it? what dose?

goose4......

[bigbouncinballs]

Good thread. You were going though the same thing i was. I had to quit after 5 days though. It's hot and my job requires a lot of outdoor running. At one time (day 3 i think) i had to sprint up a hill. I thought i was going to die.
yeah, screw that... just sitting in class after a brisk walk was bad enough...

[dimentia]

Hey BBB just wanted to let you know I've been watching this thread since it started. I'm really looking forward to the pics. I'm using what you've learned on my own cycle that I'm going to start within the next couple of weeks

[BajanBastard]

How did you run it? what dose?

goose4......Same as BBB 200mg ed. Overall the sides were not as bad as i thought they should be. You pop em, you feel hot, then you look into the mirror to see you're FATTER. LOL! After about 3 day you really see the rusults. I lost 6 lbs fat in those 5 days.

[bigbouncinballs]

Same as BBB 200mg ed. Overall the sides were not as bad as i thought they should be. You pop em, you feel hot, then you look into the mirror to see you're FATTER. LOL! After about 3 day you really see the rusults. I lost 6 lbs fat in those 5 days.
i must have miscommunicated my dose. i ran 400mg/day the whole time minus the first day to see how i would handle it.

[BajanBastard]

Sorry my mistake. I thought it was 200 you were running.

[BajanBastard]

BTW when are you planning to put the pics up? I'm waiting mang.

[mitch911]

same ..post em up and then in a another couple days update the pics if u find more water comes off to show us how much bloat ur talkin about comming off this stuff

[bigbouncinballs]

ok... u guys are gonna hate me... but i just can't bring myself to post em up... i don't see enough of a difference soooo...

Day 1
200mg last night for a kickstart
200mg this morning
25mcg t3
2-3 gallons of water
1-2 eca caps
vit E
vit C
multi vitamin/mineral
20minutes fat buring zone cardio/day... every day.

that way i can post the before pics and the "after two cycles" pics.
will update weight after the gym.

still on 1ml sust250/day, 1ml tren ace 100mg/day, 100mg winny/day

don't hate...

[xtinaunasty]

I understand BBB...totally. People think DNP is a miracle when in reality, 5-10 lbs isn't THAT much. Some of that may even be muscle. The reason it is such a powerful, albeit sometimes dangerous, fat burner is because it works so quickly. Without DNP, it usually takes me a month of hardcore dieting to lose 5lbs. I digress.

You should see a bigger difference after a second cycle. Are you going to diet this time?

I don't know much about the other gear you're on...do they cause significant water retention? if so, it could be hiding your results a tad.

Good luck!

[bigbouncinballs]

pre both cycle pics

[bigbouncinballs]

I understand BBB...totally. People think DNP is a miracle when in reality, 5-10 lbs isn't THAT much. Some of that may even be muscle. The reason it is such a powerful, albeit sometimes dangerous, fat burner is because it works so quickly. Without DNP, it usually takes me a month of hardcore dieting to lose 5lbs. I digress.

You should see a bigger difference after a second cycle. Are you going to diet this time?

I don't know much about the other gear you're on...do they cause significant water retention? if so, it could be hiding your results a tad.

Good luck!
words of wisdom! i'm happy with 5-10 pounds, i just thought i was a tad leaner and the results would be more noticeable. chalk it up to a humbling experience realizing just how much fat i've got. and yes, i am dieting. in fact i am always dieting, i just let it go when finals hit. if i can get a full ten pounds by workin it this time i'll be uber-happy, regardless of what the camera tells me.

so there are pics up from the beginning of the first cycle. as you can see i hold a lot of fat in my love handles and all over my back... and yes, i'm genetically cursed with high lat insertions and i'm 6'1" so that doesn't help back shots either!

goin to town on da fat this time, wish me luck:hello:

[timvds]

words of wisdom! i'm happy with 5-10 pounds, i just thought i was a tad leaner and the results would be more noticeable. chalk it up to a humbling experience realizing just how much fat i've got. and yes, i am dieting. in fact i am always dieting, i just let it go when finals hit. if i can get a full ten pounds by workin it this time i'll be uber-happy, regardless of what the camera tells me.

so there are pics up from the beginning of the first cycle. as you can see i hold a lot of fat in my love handles and all over my back... and yes, i'm genetically cursed with high lat insertions and i'm 6'1" so that doesn't help back shots either!

goin to town on da fat this time, wish me luck:hello:

whoa hold a sec. i thought you said you need to lose weight? ive read and i personally feel that dnp only works well on those who need to lose more than just 10lbs. the harder it is for dnp to work with a lower bodyfat %.

i dont think you need to lose anything at all, were you planning to compete or something? try some OTC water pills to dry up a bit more.

thanks for posting your cycle. ive been keeping tabs on it too. :7up:

[bigbouncinballs]

whoa hold a sec. i thought you said you need to lose weight? ive read and i personally feel that dnp only works well on those who need to lose more than just 10lbs. the harder it is for dnp to work with a lower bodyfat %.

i dont think you need to lose anything at all, were you planning to compete or something? try some OTC water pills to dry up a bit more.

thanks for posting your cycle. ive been keeping tabs on it too. :7up:
no, not planning to compete, just wanna get the fat off my upper back and love handles. would also like some veinage around the belt area in the lower abs.

[xtinaunasty]

you look good already! You're not far from your goal.

[mitch911]

so would u atleast say that all the water is gone and ur looking "better" then before the cycle...my buddy just finished at day 5 now he looks worse then say 2 months before he started his cycle at the begining of the cut ..but definatly all water as when he hits the stomach it gigles and is all in the abs and love handle area

[timvds]

you look good already! You're not far from your goal.

thats what i was sayin

[Narkissos]

I'm not hating... good luck man!

[bigbouncinballs]

so would u atleast say that all the water is gone and ur looking "better" then before the cycle...my buddy just finished at day 5 now he looks worse then say 2 months before he started his cycle at the begining of the cut ..but definatly all water as when he hits the stomach it gigles and is all in the abs and love handle area
definitely can see results, just expected more... don't know why as i didn't do a thing to earn it.
i guess i expected more water to come off but i still looked and felt tighter and had more shape in my lats thnx to a little off the love handles. it was def. worth it considering i didn't do anything.
this time around i'm really gonna see what it can do. just finished twenty mins cardio, may up that to twice a day for the whole cycle if i can hack it. every other meal has moderate carbs until the evening then they get cut back. not a lot of fat ingested...

thnx all for the words of encouragement. will update weight in couple hours.

[bigbouncinballs]

you look good already! You're not far from your goal.
thank you!

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 1

weight: 257.7
feel bloated already, taking one benadryl a night this time. two makes me so tired i can't sleep but one seems to do the trick. taking at least one eca cap a day and the t3 i mentioned earlier.

holla

[mitch911]

at least ur in good weather conditions with winter...really cold there yet an opened window would prob u not even realize the heat until u go to class or some1s house with norm temp

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 2
morning. slept like a baby. no heat yet.

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 2(continued)

off day so no weigh in.
did 20mins cardio, got off, drank some water standing up, tried to sit down and OH MY FVCKING GOD i got the worst cramps i've ever had deep, deep in the quads. couldn't straighten them or bend them... had to stand there like a dumbass for twelve minutes with legs slightly bent. couldn't even walk.
chalked this one up to potassium depletion so got some v8 and bananas.

same as the rest: t3, eca, etc.
gettin hotter.
diet's cleaner(minus the plate o mexican i had at Benny's, tina knows what i'm talkin bout)
outta breath.

that'd be it.

[xtinaunasty]

iet's cleaner(minus the plate o mexican i had at Benny's, tina knows what i'm talkin bout)

that place is soooooo good! i haven't been there in a while though...i'll have to go back for my next cheat meal :D

[xtinaunasty]

oh wow....I have 1000 posts! yay :icon_roll

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 3

weight 254.2 after gym and cardio.
no allergic reactions or sickness or anything yet.
definitely feelin better about puttin in the work this time.
highly recommend eca to battle the fatigue and lethargy, got a good workout cuz of it.

[dimentia]

Hey BBB

forgive me I am a noob but what is eca? are you on a cycle right now or are you only doing DNP? Is it okay to do DNP when on a cycle? is it better while on a cycle? I know alot of people do it right after a cycle or comming of a cycle?

[bigbouncinballs]

along with the dnp i'm on 1750mg of sust250/week, 700mg tren ace/week and 100mg winny/day.

eca is ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin but mine has yohimbine instead of aspirin.

i don't know if its okay or better on cycle, it does slow down ur workouts a bit though.

[FranKieC]

along with the dnp i'm on 1750mg of sust250/week, 700mg tren ace/week and 100mg winny/day.

eca is ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin but mine has yohimbine instead of aspirin.

i don't know if its okay or better on cycle, it does slow down ur workouts a bit though.

nice cycle!

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 4

weight: 253.2 after weights... about to do cardio.
hotter now but manageable.
not holdin as much water this time around so self-image isn't as bad as last time.
strength is holdin up
let's see if i can keep up the diet and cardio through all those christmas meals!

[Milky87]

Great read. You have made some awsome progress. God luck ith the remainer of the cycle

Speaking of which, that is a hellovalot of juice!

[mitch911]

hhahah u couldnt have picked a better week to do this lol

[BajanBastard]

lookin' real good BBB.

[dimentia]

Hey BBB where did you go man?

[little-one]

damn I just spent 45 min. reading this bitch. Im hooked though.....updates?

[boistheman]

Same here LOL!!! But this is very interesting, and sounds like you are doing better this goround good luck bro.

[bigbouncinballs]

back from quick trip to see the fam.
will update with numbers when i get back from the gym in a few. definitely splurged on the diet. probably gained more than i lost so far, feel fat and bloated, didn't get enough prot. in and no workouts as i was in the middle of fvckin nowhere.
we'll see...

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 8

weight: 255.2
damnit...
dropped the ball. only cardio was sex when the fam wasn't around.
pissed off.
gonna jump up the cardio to two sessions a day for the last two days of cycle and the four days after.
water intake was good, but was at high altitude so always felt dehydrated.
no rashes, no cold/flu symptoms... this is hopefully due to the one benadryl i've been taking every night before bed.
strength was up.
breathing was heavy.

pissed... stupid holidays...

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 9

weight: 252lbs

this weight is without a workout so i imagine with the gallon i drink at the gym it'd be a pound or so heavier. still, got two sessions of cardio in today so i feel leaner but my muscles have really deflated. lips are starting to get painfully chapped again. strength wasn't affected as much this time around... probably cuz diet was more consistent and healthy. one more day of dnp ingestion and then the come-off. winny startin to harden me up quite a bit, legs look nice and tight on the eliptical so that's a plus. big fight with the other so no workout... watcha gonna do. was bummed cuz i wasn't gonna be able to drink this new years but turns out i gotta work at the club keepin people in check so drinkin won't be a problem.
five or six more days to get those last two or three pounds! gonna work it!!!

[bigbouncinballs]

Day 10

weight: 233 after a workout.

glad this is the last day of taking that stuff. already feel the sore throat coming on. starting to cough and voice is getting more hoarse. lips are still chapped. three pounds in five days seems doable but the more cardio i do the flatter my muscles look. i had two people today tell me i had shrunk.

[dimentia]

Day 10

weight: 233 after a workout.

glad this is the last day of taking that stuff. already feel the sore throat coming on. starting to cough and voice is getting more hoarse. lips are still chapped. three pounds in five days seems doable but the more cardio i do the flatter my muscles look. i had two people today tell me i had shrunk.


Day 9

weight: 252lbs

this weight is without a workout so i imagine with the gallon i drink at the gym it'd be a pound or so heavier. still, got two sessions of cardio in today so i feel leaner but my muscles have really deflated. lips are starting to get painfully chapped again. strength wasn't affected as much this time around... probably cuz diet was more consistent and healthy. one more day of dnp ingestion and then the come-off. winny startin to harden me up quite a bit, legs look nice and tight on the eliptical so that's a plus. big fight with the other so no workout... watcha gonna do. was bummed cuz i wasn't gonna be able to drink this new years but turns out i gotta work at the club keepin people in check so drinkin won't be a problem.
five or six more days to get those last two or three pounds! gonna work it!!!


Is that a typo or did you really lose 19 lbs in one days time?

[bigbouncinballs]

Is that a typo or did you really lose 19 lbs in one days time?
whoa! definitely a typo... i meant 253. :lol:

[Milky87]

You might awell continue for the last three of four days. You muscles will readily 'inflate' again once they are ale to synthesize ATp correctly and store glycogen

[big_tone]

bro, did you carb-deplete before the dnp??:wg:

[Narkissos]

Still following BBB :thumbsup:

~Nark

[bigbouncinballs]

bro, did you carb-deplete before the dnp??:wg:
that's a negative... although i did cut out about half the normal carbs consumed.

[bigbouncinballs]

Still following BBB :thumbsup:

~Nark
thnx homey! wasn't sure if i should keep it up.

day 13(3 days off)
so here's the update. even with benadryl, vit c,e, multi's, v8 and everything else, dnp makes me terribly sick at day 10... it's like my mucous makers are workin around the clock. my throat hurts terribly and i cough up shit all day. energy is at zero. these two combined makes workouts laboriously slow and uncharged. glad its startin to leave the body. maybe i'll stick with nine day cycles from now on.

definitely noticing the 'sides' of the abs where the obliques meet... never been quite so defined. also realized that the more cardio you do the flatter ur muscles get... this wasn't the case with the first cycle where i did zero cardio. but this time around i've really shrunken up with the cardio added.

still not as lean as i wanna be. just saw the most recent strongman competition and marius pudjknowski(sp?) looked great... that's about where i'd like to be but i gotta work on the discipline first.

couple more days to let the water come off and i'll drop a pic of the abs.

also noticed significant fat loss in the legs... all of a sudden i've got definition!

still can't decide if the four or five days of coughing up shit is worth the fatloss. i'd say it is... but that's cuz i'm a lazy bastard when it comes to cardio!

gonna drag my ass through another workout in a few hours, will post up weight then.

happy new year all:7up:

[Narkissos]

thnx homey! wasn't sure if i should keep it up.

day 13(3 days off)
so here's the update. even with benadryl, vit c,e, multi's, v8 and everything else, dnp makes me terribly sick at day 10... it's like my mucous makers are workin around the clock. my throat hurts terribly and i cough up shit all day. energy is at zero. these two combined makes workouts laboriously slow and uncharged. glad its startin to leave the body. maybe i'll stick with nine day cycles from now on.

definitely noticing the 'sides' of the abs where the obliques meet... never been quite so defined. also realized that the more cardio you do the flatter ur muscles get... this wasn't the case with the first cycle where i did zero cardio. but this time around i've really shrunken up with the cardio added.

still not as lean as i wanna be. just saw the most recent strongman competition and marius pudjknowski(sp?) looked great... that's about where i'd like to be but i gotta work on the discipline first.

couple more days to let the water come off and i'll drop a pic of the abs.

also noticed significant fat loss in the legs... all of a sudden i've got definition!

still can't decide if the four or five days of coughing up shit is worth the fatloss. i'd say it is... but that's cuz i'm a lazy bastard when it comes to cardio!

gonna drag my ass through another workout in a few hours, will post up weight then.

happy new year all:7up:

Is 4 or 5 days more worth it?

Maybe not... If you get sick at day 10..run multiple 10 day cycles man.

That's what i'd do.

Take the time off in between cycles to allow dnp to fully clear and then repeat.

**Disclaimer** this advice does not apply to novices

Oh...and Happy New Year mang!

~Nark

[BajanBastard]

DNP throat is the worst! Good luck BBB.

[bigbouncinballs]

Is 4 or 5 days more worth it?

Maybe not... If you get sick at day 10..run multiple 10 day cycles man.

That's what i'd do.

Take the time off in between cycles to allow dnp to fully clear and then repeat.

**Disclaimer** this advice does not apply to novices

Oh...and Happy New Year mang!

~Nark
yeah, after it hit day ten of last cycle i scheduled this one for only ten days for exactly that purpose... to avoid the sickness. and at day ten it hit. i haven't taken a dose since day ten and i'm still coughin up shit... to make matters worse the tren cough seems to be amplified by this so every time i stick the tren i cough uncontrollably for a minute or two, literally to the point of nasuea... ever cough till you thought u were gonna puke? it sucks.

i weighed in tonight at 257.5lbs... wtf is that? on the plus side i finally got a good pump, shoulders swelled up nice and big so the weight gain didn't bother me as much. double up the cardio tomorrow and see what happens.

[bigbouncinballs]

DNP throat is the worst! Good luck BBB.
glad to hear i'm not the only one gettin it!

[G.I JOE]

I just quite my dnp 4 days ago and my throat still hurts and im coughin up shit in the morning. From the scale im still up 2lbs from when i started lol so i dunno wtf is going on.

[bigbouncinballs]

I just quite my dnp 4 days ago and my throat still hurts and im coughin up shit in the morning. From the scale im still up 2lbs from when i started lol so i dunno wtf is going on.
how long did you take it?

[G.I JOE]

I was on for about 13 days.
1-3 200mg
the rest 400mg.

This is my third cycle of dnp did two last winter as well and got about 6-7lbs lost but that was 1 12 day cycle and one 21 days of 200mg cycle. Other then the sore throat i usually only sweat when im sleeping and if im in a mall walkin around. if im sittin at my desk im fine. Maybe im not seing good results cuz this dnp as been sittin in a bottle since last december, still gettin the sides tho.

[fred9]

very interesting...keep us updated
btw, is the crystal really better then the powders of dnp?..cant decide which one to choose..

[xtinaunasty]

very interesting...keep us updated
btw, is the crystal really better then the powders of dnp?..cant decide which one to choose..

from what i've heard crystal is more potent. harder to find i believe

[fred9]

from what i've heard crystal is more potent. harder to find i believe
yep xtinaunasty read the same thing...but also heard that the sides are less...maybe some guys who used both can give some input?..

[mitch911]

any updates/pics yet bro

[muriloninja]

I am waiting for post DNP cycle pics....

[Stumbo]

ditto

[Narkissos]

Shoot BBB a PM

Anyone seen him around?

[notanormalgent]

you alive, bro?

[eatit]

Damn, No pics in this log but the results seem good.

Hope the lack of updating doesn't mean the DNP got him...

[bigbouncinballs]

ya, no pics cuz i got REAL sick again.

moral of the dnp story, i'm only gonna hit it up for seven days at a time or i feel like a truck hit me for the next two weeks.

good stuff, but it'll ruin ya quick.

[eatit]

eeesh, seems like it effects a lot of people that way. I was thinking about an extended 200mg cycle. I feel like the extra time on makes up for the slower results.

[bigbouncinballs]

eeesh, seems like it effects a lot of people that way. I was thinking about an extended 200mg cycle. I feel like the extra time on makes up for the slower results.
see i'm the opposite, i want that sh1te outta me as soon as possible so a little higher on the dosage is waaaaay better than 200mgs for a longer period of time.

[eatit]

I can totally understand. I'll have to see how I respond when (if... *grumble grumble*) i finally get it. I work as a back waiter in a kitchen so I'm already warm as it is. I can't imagine what the kitchen will do to me.

[mmaximus25]

any pics, to gage results?

[mmaximus25]

nervermind just found then precycle pics