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[testosterona]

ok, this is wk 15 of my current cycle. it started off as test e 600mgs wk untill wk 12 when i switched too test prop at 200mgs eod. iv been running winny at 50mgs ed from wk 10as well. just thought id post some pics up again and show some progress. i'm up about 22-24lbs depending on the time of day. almost 200lbs now, i'm trying too get there. just started upping my protien like crazy, im shittin bricks.:1laugh: im sure i'll get 4lbs before the new yr, wich is when my cycle is over. im gonna stop the winny in one wk and continue with the prop until PCT. during PCT im planning igf at 60mcg pwo. opinions welcome!:7up:

[testosterona]

this pic is me almost 2yrs ago. i was around 6ft 160lbs. all natty of course. after about 1.5yrs of hard training. skinny, i know, but i started out at 6ft 140lbs.....you can imagine!

next pic is some bottles with oil in them, i dunno, someone said STEROIDS:shrug:

[Zapp]

Gettin better every time Test. I'm impressed bro!

[testosterona]

Gettin better every time Test. I'm impressed bro!
thanks man. i got sick last wk so iv been all outta wack on my WO routine. but now it's back too biz. damn, i gotta little gut going now dont i:scratch:

[Zapp]

thanks man. i got sick last wk so iv been all outta wack on my WO routine. but now it's back too biz. damn, i gotta little gut going now dont i:scratch:
You ought to see mine! I'm a fat boy now, and I've still got 30 more lbs to put on.:lol:

[testosterona]

You ought to see mine! I'm a fat boy now, and I've still got 30 more lbs to put on.:lol:
:aaGreen22 fun, aint it? zapp, what do you think about concentrating on protien intake? what do you shoot for gram wise? also, my shit has been REALLY hard lately, this always happens when i up my PROTIEN. i understand this is normall, is there something else i should be considering though?

BTW: where am i at with my BF%...14-16% or so?

[Zapp]

:aaGreen22 fun, aint it? zapp, what do you think about concentrating on protien intake? what do you shoot for gram wise? also, my shit has been REALLY hard lately, this always happens when i up my PROTIEN. i understand this is normall, is there something else i should be considering though?

BTW: where am i at with my BF%...14-16% or so?
I take in around 400g of protein while I'm on my cutting diet. How many more weeks do you have left on your cycle?

[testosterona]

I take in around 400g of protein while I'm on my cutting diet. How many more weeks do you have left on your cycle?
jan 1st is the cut off. all in all it will have lasted around 18wks. what do you think about my BF%

[Zapp]

It's not bad for putting on 24 lbs. Next time you run a cutting cycle, I would suggest that you add tren and var with your prop.

[Pinnacle]

thanks man. i got sick last wk so iv been all outta wack on my WO routine. but now it's back too biz. damn, i gotta little gut going now dont i:scratch:
And Boobies too.:lol:

Nice progress!!You're def getting there bro.


~Pinnacle~

[legobricks]

yeah, great progress test! but i do have to comment on the fat thing. you dont really have any gut going. just some little boobies!!! haha, try cutting for your next cycle! happy growing!

[IBdmfkr]

Great progress Test, keep it up.

[chest6]

Gettin thicker man, keep it up.

[TCEL300]

lookn good bro...nice collection u had there test.

[Anabolic CEO]

Look good Test............Oh in the Leg pic, is that water on the mirror?...lol

Keep up the good work bro, keep us updated.

[need2Bbig]

looking good man... Id say about 14 or so on the BF count, but you can worry about cutting later!

[mamias20918756]

nice progress test, work on these legs

[Hellmaskbanned]

ok, this is wk 15 of my current cycle. it started off as test e 600mgs wk untill wk 12 when i switched too test prop at 200mgs eod. iv been running winny at 50mgs ed from wk 10as well. just thought id post some pics up again and show some progress. i'm up about 22-24lbs depending on the time of day. almost 200lbs now, i'm trying too get there. just started upping my protien like crazy, im shittin bricks.:1laugh: im sure i'll get 4lbs before the new yr, wich is when my cycle is over. im gonna stop the winny in one wk and continue with the prop until PCT. during PCT im planning igf at 60mcg pwo. opinions welcome!:7up:

Holy shit.

I remember seeing your pics when you first started, thinking, is this guy serious :?: :no:

But damn what an improvement. goodjob

You might want to watch for gyno , those look like there getting "plump"

[*Alex*]

looking nice , what was your first cycle and how much gain??

[mamias20918756]

hey test can u post ur workout routine?

[chest6]

I know ur excited to see my pics test

[daytrader]

Damnnnn Lookin THICK son!! Nice work bro

[testosterona]

looking nice , what was your first cycle and how much gain??
it was actually my second cycle. i jumped the gun a little early on the first one. i'm up about 23-25lbs or so from my starting wieght. tonight i weighed in at 199lbs, FVCK almost there!!! strength is up like crazy. when i started the winny my stregnth was going up nicely. now im about 5wks into it and started prop and it's pretty intense. my gains/strength just won't stop. i'm a true beleiver in food as being key in growth, on or off steroids. i even have plateaus on cylce, eat more and i bust right thorugh it. easier said than done though!

[testosterona]

hey test can u post ur workout routine?
sure man. it looks like this:

mon: quads, hams, calves
tues:chest(all incline: barbell,fly,dumbell), tri's
wed:off
thurs: back,bi's
fri: front rear and medial delts, calves
sat: off
sun: off

this seems to be doing well. sometimes i'll throw in some bi's or tri's 2xs wk. any comments on this are welcome....

[operationgetbig]

sure man. it looks like this:

mon: quads, hams, calves
tues:chest(all incline: barbell,fly,dumbell), tri's
wed:off
thurs: back,bi's
fri: front rear and medial delts, calves
sat: off
sun: off

this seems to be doing well. sometimes i'll throw in some bi's or tri's 2xs wk. any comments on this are welcome....

why do u do all incline on chest day. y not throw in some flat bench dumbbells or flat bench or even some decline. my bench was so shitty for a while so i jus ignored it and was doing good with everything else but when i starting concentrating real hard on my bench i started getting massive and the weights in all my other exercises went up...especially my shoulder and tricep strength.

[testosterona]

well, my lower chest is extremely overdeveloped. i can push 110 db's on flat no prob, but incline is a whole other story. i've always neglected my upper chest and now it's biting me in the ass. just trying to catch up, that's all. we'll see how it works in a few months

[chest6]

I would put at least a day in between back and doing rear delts

[testosterona]

I would put at least a day in between back and doing rear delts
that's a good point chest. good lookin out. BTW, i'm looking forward to your pics.....too bad you'll never post them you fvkin *****:1laugh:

jk

test

[chest6]

that's a good point chest. good lookin out. BTW, i'm looking forward to your pics.....too bad you'll never post them you fvkin *****:1laugh:

jk

test
haha..nah I will when I get back home. Look to see them up sometime in the next month. I gotta get the bf down really low..Im shootin for 225. Im at 237 now.

[kaptainkeezy04]

testosterona, ive been waiting for you in the supplement thread about your pct... you know the one where you were talking about taking some ordinary test boosting supplement for pct when you should always use clomid and hcg. i told you that you should use clomid and hcg for pct and then you called me an asshole for some reason...here is the link to the thread incase you dont remember http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=207549 ...why do you keep juicing at such a young age?

[IBdmfkr]

haha..nah I will when I get back home. Look to see them up sometime in the next month. I gotta get the bf down really low..Im shootin for 225. Im at 237 now.

That's great man! And you said you couldn't do it, good job. Fuk this stupid thread. opps sorry testosterona! :lol:

PS: hahahahaah You sure you haven't already started Testosterona, poor guy was just tryin to help... lol

i recommend clomid and hcg.



this is a wasted space on my thread. thanks for the stupid ass remark asshole. rack up your worthless posts in the lounge :aajack:

[Pinnacle]

PS: hahahahaah You sure you haven't already started Testosterona, poor guy was just tryin to help... lol

That KID was trying to help?He's 20 yrs old and never ran gear.How's he going to help?HCG and clomid together isn't a good suggestion at all.Actually a rather poor suggestion from a wannabee steroid guru at the tender age of 20 .. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


~Pinnacle~

[daytrader]

That KID was trying to help?He's 20 yrs old and never ran gear.How's he going to help?HCG and clomid together isn't a good suggestion at all.Actually a rather poor suggestion from a wannabee steroid guru at the tender age of 20 .. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


~Pinnacle~

Damnn

[Flexor]

I don't know anything about PCT, but it seems to me that testerona acted like a b1tch for no reason just because kapkeezy took the time to answer his question :scratch:

Your upper chest genetics are below par, get on the incline before you start to lactate :lol: and lose the bodyfat .......

[IBdmfkr]

That KID was trying to help?He's 20 yrs old and never ran gear.How's he going to help?HCG and clomid together isn't a good suggestion at all.Actually a rather poor suggestion from a wannabee steroid guru at the tender age of 20 .. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


~Pinnacle~

Wasn't aware he meant at the same time. I guess drag in behind a pickup, he deserves it after that comment. :aaGreen22

[kaptainkeezy04]

That KID was trying to help?He's 20 yrs old and never ran gear.How's he going to help?HCG and clomid together isn't a good suggestion at all.Actually a rather poor suggestion from a wannabee steroid guru at the tender age of 20 .. LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


~Pinnacle~

yo pinnacle i never did a cycle huh? well you are dead f*ckin wrong bro! i never said i was a steroid guru and i never said take them together either did i? hmmmmm you sure like to jump to conclusions and stick your nose where it dont belong! look on my damn profile where it says ive done a cycle..yeah thats right dbol, test, and deca....but yeah that was before i was a member here and knew about ruining natural genetic potential and to not juice at a young age and ive been juice free for a year. i still knew not to use f*ckin gnc supplements for pct though and i sure as hell used clomid and hcg. tender age of 20?...i remember a while back on a thread where someone said you were a fat @ss 36 year old that likes to put people down so you can feel better bout yourself...well i guess you just proved them right.

[kaptainkeezy04]

here is the exact quote about pinnacle from inspector injector...."Hey bro, just disregard whatever pinnacle says. He's a big as*hole and I've already meet 12 people that feel the same way. And I've only been on this site for 2 months. Don't let his stupid comments put you down because he is a mid 30 year old who still hasn't matured and only wants to put others down so he can feel better because he is sooooo fat from all the test that he takes and he talks a lotta sh*t without posting his fat f*ck pics."

[Pinnacle]

.i remember a while back on a thread where someone said you were a fat @ss 36 year old that likes to put people down so you can feel better bout yourself...well i guess you just proved them right.

Are you upset little boy?:lol: I see you and your 20 yr old boyfriend have the same temperament.Shame he got banned.Do your miss you Internet lover?:lol:

Care to join me on stage this Aug?Oh wait..the contest is for men only!!:lol:


~Pinnacle~

[daytrader]

Dont mean to hijack here at all but gotta throw you prop KaptainK for layin of the juice... I know how tuff it is bein 20 to stay away.... I can jjust imagine how tough it would be knowing what its like to be "on" and deciding to stay natural after that...

[TinTin78]

nice shoulders and biceps are coming along, you got some bloat and your neck is kinda thick, you don't need more carbs, just keep protein high and you will not gain anymore fat. I am impressed after all by you, you little punk :wg:

[*Narkissos*]

Keep it on topic men...or take a leave of absence.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Care to join me on stage this Aug?Oh wait..the contest is for men only!!:lol:


~Pinnacle~

I always see you talking about your size and your crazy past cycles.
When called out you never post a pic to prove anything.

[testosterona]

testosterona, ive been waiting for you in the supplement thread about your pct... you know the one where you were talking about taking some ordinary test boosting supplement for pct when you should always use clomid and hcg. i told you that you should use clomid and hcg for pct and then you called me an asshole for some reason...here is the link to the thread incase you dont remember http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=207549 ...why do you keep juicing at such a young age?
LOL, sorry bro. i was having one of those days of seeing a bunch of useless posts, your's fell into that category. i really hate it when people post advice that is unrelated to the question, hence your remark. i was clearly asking about tongkat and trib, not a PCT suggestion. and not only that, but HCG is NOT for PCT so it pissed me off that you gave me rediculously bad advice as well. but i am sorry for that comment, i was a little harsh. you must have misunderstood the thread topic or something. no hard feelings.

thanks for all the compliments and suggestions boys, let's keep this positive eh?

test

[Pinnacle]

I always see you talking about your size and your crazy past cycles.
When called out you never post a pic to prove anything.

I never talk about my size..EVER!!!I don't consider myself big.

Called out to post a pic?When?..What would it prove?..What do I have to prove to YOU..= Absolutely nothing.

[testosterona]

I don't know anything about PCT, but it seems to me that testerona acted like a b1tch for no reason just because kapkeezy took the time to add up some posts. :scratch:

Your upper chest genetics are below par, get on the incline before you start to lactate :lol: and lose the bodyfat .......
........:shrug:

hehe, i already pointed out that i need to work on my upper chest. hence the ALL INCLINE CHEST ROUTINE!!! thanks for the critisism though. oh, and the bodyfat................IT"S CALLED BULKING BROTHA! GOTTA LOVE IT! right Zapp!

[*Narkissos*]

Keep it on topic men...or take a leave of absence.


I'll say this again and then i'll deal with it in my own way.

[kaptainkeezy04]

Are you upset little boy?:lol: I see you and your 20 yr old boyfriend have the same temperament.Shame he got banned.Do your miss you Internet lover?:lol:

Care to join me on stage this Aug?Oh wait..the contest is for men only!!:lol:


~Pinnacle~

dude you are 37 and still making these retarded comments...internet boyfriend? man that was a good one:rolleyes: im glad thats the best you can do but do you have any response to what i was talking about earlier? oh and inspector didnt get banned he was suspended.

[testosterona]

postive bro's POSITIVE. Thanks for the back Pinn, it's cool though. ignore these guys, they're just pissed cause were gettin all the ***** around here. no biggie! LOL. back to CONSTRUCTIVE critisism

[kaptainkeezy04]

ima read what you wrote earlier

[kaptainkeezy04]

I'll say this again and then i'll deal with it in my own way.

is there no freedom of speech on AR? why is it a must that we keep it on topic its not like we are throwing one of your threads off topic.

[testosterona]

please quit shitting on my thread KAP, keep it to a PM if you need to.

thanks.

test

[Hellmaskbanned]

postive bro's POSITIVE. Thanks for the back Pinn, it's cool though. ignore these guys, they're just pissed cause were gettin all the ***** around here. no biggie! LOL. back to CONSTRUCTIVE critisism


I want some *****:lol:
Again, Good job test.
Even though it was done on cycle it still is motivational.
I'm looking to make a big change as well in my physique.

[kaptainkeezy04]

i dont see why mods get all mad when we dont keep something "ON TOPIC"

[kaptainkeezy04]

oh well good gains testosterona even though it was done on a cycle im done now

[chest6]

man lots of drama tonight.

[*Narkissos*]

is there no freedom of speech on AR? why is it a must that we keep it on topic its not like we are throwing one of your threads off topic.

You want to piss on a topic..go to the lounge.

There is freedom within reason.. when your post gets reported it goes to my inbox..when it gets to my inbox i'm expected to deal with it.

This is me d e a l i n g with it.

If you don't appreciate what i've told you...find somewhere else to post.

AR existed before you joined...and it'll exist after you leave.

There are rules... If you choose to remain..adhere to those rules.

I will not repeat myself

~Narkissos

[IBdmfkr]

OWNED!!! :lol:

[Flexor]

This is the post I wrote...

I don't know anything about PCT, but it seems to me that testerona acted like a b1tch for no reason just because kapkeezy took the time to answer his question :scratch:

This is the post that testosterona quoted me as...

I don't know anything about PCT, but it seems to me that testerona acted like a b1tch for no reason just because kapkeezy took the time to add up some posts.

I think it should come to the attention of the mods that this guy is quoting people but then changing their words. He's breaking the rules, but he will probably change his post back soon because he's a fraidycat

[testosterona]

This is the post I wrote...



This is the post that testosterona quoted me as...



I think it should come to the attention of the mods that this guy is quoting people but then changing their words. He's breaking the rules, but he will probably change his post back soon because he's a fraidycat
there you go, i put it in bold so they are more likely to pay attention. your welcome. if anyone else would like to shit on my thread, please refrain. go to the lounge and shit and piss all you want. back too the topic:7up:

[kaptainkeezy04]

OWNED!!! :lol:

naw dude there wasnt any ownage. oh and just to make sure i keep it on topic...hey testosterona nice gains even though it was on a cycle at a very young age.

[Flexor]

Since we are going back on topic here, doing incline will not help your upper chest for the following reason. If you knew just how small the upper pec muscle was, you would realise that most of your upper chest is still the sternal pectoralis major (check the picture). The incline will only work the thin band at the top of your chest, not the biggest part of the chest which is the lower head, worked best with dips and decline bench.

The shape of your chest is genetic and it will turn out how it is meant to just by giving it a good overall workout. People think that incline will develop the whole upper chest portion magically even though most of it is not the upper pec, when in actual fact it will only touch the very highest bit which attaches to the medial half of the clavicle, not the STERNUM!!! The lower pec accounts for all of the pec next to the sternum, and if you are lacking there that is genetics. It is not because you haven't developed your upper chest.

http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisSternal.html

http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisClavicular.html

[TR'05]

looks like some good progress, testosterona..keep up the solid work, broheim! Once you start cutting you'll be looking even better with the extra mass.

Great post on the upper chest, flexor. some good food for thought...ill do the dishes.

[IBdmfkr]

:aaGreen22 OWNED!!!!!! haha j/k just trying to rile you guys up. Bunch of bickering little bitches. BTW, just wanted to put more shit on Test's thread
:0piss: (Test's Thread).

[IBdmfkr]

Since we are going back on topic here, doing incline will not help your upper chest for the following reason. If you knew just how small the upper pec muscle was, you would realise that most of your upper chest is still the sternal pectoralis major (check the picture). The incline will only work the thin band at the top of your chest, not the biggest part of the chest which is the lower head, worked best with dips and decline bench.

The shape of your chest is genetic and it will turn out how it is meant to just by giving it a good overall workout. People think that incline will develop the whole upper chest portion magically even though most of it is not the upper pec, when in actual fact it will only touch the very highest bit which attaches to the medial half of the clavicle, not the STERNUM!!! The lower pec accounts for all of the pec next to the sternum, and if you are lacking there that is genetics. It is not because you haven't developed your upper chest.


http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisSternal.html

http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisClavicular.html
I agree, your chest development really comes down to your genetics. Don't over do incline press on chest day, you'll be hitting your anterior delts too much. Make sure you put some flat or decline in there to really stimulate the chest.

[testosterona]

:aaGreen22 OWNED!!!!!! haha j/k just trying to rile you guys up. Bunch of bickering little bitches. BTW, just wanted to put more shit on Test's thread
:0piss: (Test's Thread).
who you callin a bithch BITCH! thanks for the piss BD u MFKR!:lol:
thanks for the threads on the upper chest. thats interesting stuff, i know many bb's that swearr by inclines. hmmm. well, i guess it's just genetics then.....that sucks

[*Narkissos*]

Since we are going back on topic here, doing incline will not help your upper chest for the following reason. If you knew just how small the upper pec muscle was, you would realise that most of your upper chest is still the sternal pectoralis major (check the picture). The incline will only work the thin band at the top of your chest, not the biggest part of the chest which is the lower head, worked best with dips and decline bench.

The shape of your chest is genetic and it will turn out how it is meant to just by giving it a good overall workout. People think that incline will develop the whole upper chest portion magically even though most of it is not the upper pec, when in actual fact it will only touch the very highest bit which attaches to the medial half of the clavicle, not the STERNUM!!! The lower pec accounts for all of the pec next to the sternum, and if you are lacking there that is genetics. It is not because you haven't developed your upper chest.

http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisSternal.html

http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/PectoralisClavicular.html

Nice Flex... :thumbsup:

[IronAdam]

Nark...does what flex said hold true when doing low incline bench as well? I would think low inclines would give a good all around chest workout with an emphasis on the upper chest.

Test...look'n good man, keep it up.

[*Narkissos*]

Nark...does what flex said hold true when doing low incline bench as well? I would think low inclines would give a good all around chest workout with an emphasis on the upper chest.

Test...look'n good man, keep it up.

Don't want to perpetuate a thread hijacl..but as to your question: Pros like Big A have proposed that as chest development is genetic..and growth systematic, the real relevant factor when choosing your main exercise is comfort:

Comfort, from the perspective of biomechanical form.

If Low-Incline benches do it for you...stick with 'em.

Some people are built to respond better to declines... thus declines'd be their main exercise. See where i'm going with this?

~Narkissos

[SnaX]

Don't want to perpetuate a thread hijacl..but as to your question: Pros like Big A have proposed that as chest development is genetic..and growth systematic, the real relevant factor when choosing your main exercise is comfort:

Comfort, from the perspective of biomechanical form.

If Low-Incline benches do it for you...stick with 'em.

Some people are built to respond better to declines... thus declines'd be their main exercise. See where i'm going with this?

~Narkissos
Nark, that was DAMN BEAUTIFUL. Great words, whatever floats your boat! :-)

I could, sometimes, say that some muscles just have a "work-me-out" feeling in them. :) And in order to satisfy them I lift a certain way.

Nark, you da man! :-)

[daytrader]

Nark i agree 100%%!!! I dont get much of a pump/feel from flat/incline dumbells.. but man put that thing on decline and my chest POPS!!!:wg: