Bitch tit's?

[snowman]

I'm currently, on a cycle, with delastyl, and winny.... currently, i have the so called " bitch tit's" , i had that before, on a previous cycle, i did, but after it went away.... this time, i have the same thing, but this time i also have a dark liquid coming out of my nipples, whenever i press on the nipple... do you know what that is?, is that normal from a cycle? Have you ever heard, of this happening to anyone else before?, Talked with a coule of my friends ,and know one knows what that is.

[Ajax]

Sounds like symptoms of Gyno!

Check out http://www.gynecomastia.org for more info.

ALWAYS use anti-estrogens! The only cure for gyno once you get it is surgery to remove the breast tissue!

Q: What is gyno (gynecomastia) / bitch tits? What are the symptoms of gyno?

A: Gynecomastia (commonly referred to as “gyno” or “bitch tits”) is the enlargement of the breast tissue in males. It can occur naturally in puberty or old age and results from an imbalance in estrogen action relative to androgen action at the breast tissue level.

Steroid can increase the level of estrogen in the body which causes gyno.

The symptoms of gyno are: swelling and tenderness of the nipples and breast tissue or itchiness of the nipples. If you experience these symptoms, treat them immediately! Once breast tissue forms, it is permanent! For treating the symptoms of gyno once they occur, see the note on Nolvadex below.

For pictures (http://www.gynecomastia.org/content/treatment/gynogallery.shtml) and more information on gyno, see gynecomastia.org (http://www.gynecomastia.org).

Q: What is Nolvadex / Arimidex / Liquidex / Proviron? How do I prevent gyno / bitch tits?

A: Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate), Arimidex / Liquidex (anastrozole) and Proviron (mesterlone) all act as anti-estrogens (sometimes called anti-e’s).

Estrogen is naturally found in the male body in small amounts, however, when taking certain steroids, an excess of estrogen can be created through a process called aromitization. This abnormally large concentration of estrogen can cause some undesirable side effects, such as enlargement of the breasts (commonly referred to as “gyno” or “bitch tits”), female pattern fat distribution and water retention. (Gyno can also be caused by high concentrations of estrogen relative the your body’s level of testosterone, so gyno can be problem all the way through the end of Clomid therapy.)

Not all people who use steroids experience any estrogen related problems. Many people have taken many cycles at high dosages without using any anti-estrogens and have reported that they experienced no symptoms of gyno. Other people can take a small dose of steroids for one cycle and develop noticeable enlargement of the breast.

Estrogen can be blocked in two ways: you can block it from aromatizing, or you can block it from binding to the estrogen receptors in the body.

Nolvadex prevents estrogen from binding to the estrogen receptors in the body. Nolvadex is generally taken only if and when symptoms of gyno appear. The typical dosage is 80mg the first day, 40mg every day until the symptoms subside and 20mg a day through the end of Clomid therapy. If you are taking low-moderate doses of steroids (200-600mg a week falls into that class) you can halve the Nolvadex dose.

Arimidex, Liquidex and Proviron all function as aromatase inhibitors and work by blocking estrogen from forming. Most body builders prefer to block the estrogen from forming, because in addition to preventing gyno, it also decreases water retention and keeps the body looking harder. Typical dosages for Arimidex are 0.25 mg a day to 0.5mg a day, with 0.25mg a day being average. Proviron is typically taken at a dosage of 50mg a day.

ALWAYS have an anti-estrogen on hand when you take steroids! Tits look great--but not on men! Even if you take an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex or Proviron, you should keep some Nolvadex on hand just in case the dose you are taking is too low and you start to see symptoms of gyno appear.

Q: If I Start having Symptoms of Gyno and I don’t have an anti-estrogen, should I just stop taking steroids?

A: Stopping your cycle won't fix the problem. Why?

1) You will still have estrogen in your body, so the tit-building continues.

2) You will still have steroids in your body for the next 2-3 weeks that will convert to estrogen, so the tit-building continues.

3) After all the steroids are metabolized your testosterone will be near zero and your body's natural estrogen levels will be high (yes, your body does produce some estrogen), which also means that tit-building will continue.

Stopping the steroids will not stop gyno. Anti-estrogens stop gyno.

If you don't take an aromatase inhibitor during your cycle like Arimidex or Proviron ALWAYS have some Nolvadex on hand. Even if you do use aromatase inhibitors, having Nolvadex on hand is still a good idea in case your Arimidex/Proviron dose is too low or you accidentally miss doses.

I recommend having no less than 60 x 20mg tabs of Nolvadex on hand before you start ANY cycle.

IMO, only a fool would start a cycle without anti-e's on hand.

Q: Are there any non-prescription anti-estrogens?

A: No. Sorry!

Q: I already have gyno, what can I do to make it go away?

A: If breasts tissue has already formed, the only treatment is surgical; anti-estrogens will have no effect in reducing the size.

[Kaz]

Excellent info Ajax - You should post this as a thread on the main Steroid board!

[snowman]

Originally posted by Ajax
Sounds like symptoms of Gyno!

Check out http://www.gynecomastia.org for more info.

ALWAYS use anti-estrogens! The only cure for gyno once you get it is surgery to remove the breast tissue!

Q: What is gyno (gynecomastia) / bitch tits? What are the symptoms of gyno?

A: Gynecomastia (commonly referred to as “gyno” or “bitch tits”) is the enlargement of the breast tissue in males. It can occur naturally in puberty or old age and results from an imbalance in estrogen action relative to androgen action at the breast tissue level.

Steroid can increase the level of estrogen in the body which causes gyno.

The symptoms of gyno are: swelling and tenderness of the nipples and breast tissue or itchiness of the nipples. If you experience these symptoms, treat them immediately! Once breast tissue forms, it is permanent! For treating the symptoms of gyno once they occur, see the note on Nolvadex below.

For pictures (http://www.gynecomastia.org/content/treatment/gynogallery.shtml) and more information on gyno, see gynecomastia.org (http://www.gynecomastia.org).

Q: What is Nolvadex / Arimidex / Liquidex / Proviron? How do I prevent gyno / bitch tits?

A: Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate), Arimidex / Liquidex (anastrozole) and Proviron (mesterlone) all act as anti-estrogens (sometimes called anti-e’s).

Estrogen is naturally found in the male body in small amounts, however, when taking certain steroids, an excess of estrogen can be created through a process called aromitization. This abnormally large concentration of estrogen can cause some undesirable side effects, such as enlargement of the breasts (commonly referred to as “gyno” or “bitch tits”), female pattern fat distribution and water retention. (Gyno can also be caused by high concentrations of estrogen relative the your body’s level of testosterone, so gyno can be problem all the way through the end of Clomid therapy.)

Not all people who use steroids experience any estrogen related problems. Many people have taken many cycles at high dosages without using any anti-estrogens and have reported that they experienced no symptoms of gyno. Other people can take a small dose of steroids for one cycle and develop noticeable enlargement of the breast.

Estrogen can be blocked in two ways: you can block it from aromatizing, or you can block it from binding to the estrogen receptors in the body.

Nolvadex prevents estrogen from binding to the estrogen receptors in the body. Nolvadex is generally taken only if and when symptoms of gyno appear. The typical dosage is 80mg the first day, 40mg every day until the symptoms subside and 20mg a day through the end of Clomid therapy. If you are taking low-moderate doses of steroids (200-600mg a week falls into that class) you can halve the Nolvadex dose.

Arimidex, Liquidex and Proviron all function as aromatase inhibitors and work by blocking estrogen from forming. Most body builders prefer to block the estrogen from forming, because in addition to preventing gyno, it also decreases water retention and keeps the body looking harder. Typical dosages for Arimidex are 0.25 mg a day to 0.5mg a day, with 0.25mg a day being average. Proviron is typically taken at a dosage of 50mg a day.

ALWAYS have an anti-estrogen on hand when you take steroids! Tits look great--but not on men! Even if you take an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex or Proviron, you should keep some Nolvadex on hand just in case the dose you are taking is too low and you start to see symptoms of gyno appear.

Q: If I Start having Symptoms of Gyno and I don’t have an anti-estrogen, should I just stop taking steroids?

A: Stopping your cycle won't fix the problem. Why?

1) You will still have estrogen in your body, so the tit-building continues.

2) You will still have steroids in your body for the next 2-3 weeks that will convert to estrogen, so the tit-building continues.

3) After all the steroids are metabolized your testosterone will be near zero and your body's natural estrogen levels will be high (yes, your body does produce some estrogen), which also means that tit-building will continue.

Stopping the steroids will not stop gyno. Anti-estrogens stop gyno.

If you don't take an aromatase inhibitor during your cycle like Arimidex or Proviron ALWAYS have some Nolvadex on hand. Even if you do use aromatase inhibitors, having Nolvadex on hand is still a good idea in case your Arimidex/Proviron dose is too low or you accidentally miss doses.

I recommend having no less than 60 x 20mg tabs of Nolvadex on hand before you start ANY cycle.

IMO, only a fool would start a cycle without anti-e's on hand.

Q: Are there any non-prescription anti-estrogens?

A: No. Sorry!

Q: I already have gyno, what can I do to make it go away?

A: If breasts tissue has already formed, the only treatment is surgical; anti-estrogens will have no effect in reducing the size.

thanks for the info,and reply. But have you ever heard, dark liquid coming out of the nipple's if you press on it?

[snowman]

thanks for the info. and your reply.... but have you ever heard, of dark liquid coming from the nipple, once you press in it.

[Kaz]

Originally posted by bolabola
thanks for the info. and your reply.... but have you ever heard, of dark liquid coming from the nipple, once you press in it.

Iv never heard of a dark liquid, only a light one, but in either case my advice is to get to your local GP NOW and tell him everything he will need to know to make a correct diagnosis (That means tell him what you are on, how much of it and for how long)

Ajax has supplied some excellent info but Im sure he would be the first to tell you (If he were online right now) that no-one here is able to make a diagnosis for you. We work on our personal experience of AS and the experiences of those we know. We are NOT doctors!

When something falls outside of common experience you MUST consult with a doctor. It sounds like you have a case of gyno there, but you really need to get that checked and sorted out by seeing a doctor since you have a discharge that I have not come across before! While taking an anti-e may help there is a chance that you have gone too far (In which case you will need to see the doc anyway)

You should make a list of the things you have used, including any anti-e etc (Take a sample of them if possible) and visit your GP. You have to be safe with this bro, and seeing the doc right now seems about the safest route you could take!

[snowman]

Thanks, for all the info.

[BASK8KACE]

Bump.

[General Patton]

I'de get to the doc man. A good one you trust.

[SecureZone]

This post dates years ago. Any idea what happen to snowman?

[OnT]

Go see a doctor right away.

[lovbyts]

Dont forget to update us on what the results are. That is the main goal or the board is to share information and experience.

[2bshredded]

This post dates years ago. Any idea what happen to snowman?


Who knows, this thread is ancient......he maybe woman now. jk

[lovbyts]

I found him???

[Kale]

I found him???

:haha::haha::haha:

[artillery]

i like my bitch tits theyre sensitive when squeezed

[snowman]

Man, this was dated in 2002 , you guys still read this????
I'm fine.. did not turn into a woman...lol... i did see a doctor back then, and the black liquid was blood, the doctor give me some medication, and i was fine.
i know live in POrtugal, and its a lot easier to get what i need.
Peace.

[DSM4Life]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k246/musicnut_2006/roast%202/Man_Boobs.jpg

[Philly Grappler]

I saw M1T do that to somebody. After taking M1T the guy had dark discharge and b!tch tits. Surgery was the answer in his situation.

[Win369]

Sounds like symptoms of Gyno!

Check out http://www.gynecomastia.org for more info.

ALWAYS use anti-estrogens! The only cure for gyno once you get it is surgery to remove the breast tissue!

Q: What is gyno (gynecomastia) / bitch tits? What are the symptoms of gyno?

A: Gynecomastia (commonly referred to as “gyno” or “bitch tits”) is the enlargement of the breast tissue in males. It can occur naturally in puberty or old age and results from an imbalance in estrogen action relative to androgen action at the breast tissue level.

Steroid can increase the level of estrogen in the body which causes gyno.

The symptoms of gyno are: swelling and tenderness of the nipples and breast tissue or itchiness of the nipples. If you experience these symptoms, treat them immediately! Once breast tissue forms, it is permanent! For treating the symptoms of gyno once they occur, see the note on Nolvadex below.

For pictures (http://www.gynecomastia.org/content/treatment/gynogallery.shtml) and more information on gyno, see gynecomastia.org (http://www.gynecomastia.org).

Q: What is Nolvadex / Arimidex / Liquidex / Proviron? How do I prevent gyno / bitch tits?

A: Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate), Arimidex / Liquidex (anastrozole) and Proviron (mesterlone) all act as anti-estrogens (sometimes called anti-e’s).

Estrogen is naturally found in the male body in small amounts, however, when taking certain steroids, an excess of estrogen can be created through a process called aromitization. This abnormally large concentration of estrogen can cause some undesirable side effects, such as enlargement of the breasts (commonly referred to as “gyno” or “bitch tits”), female pattern fat distribution and water retention. (Gyno can also be caused by high concentrations of estrogen relative the your body’s level of testosterone, so gyno can be problem all the way through the end of Clomid therapy.)

Not all people who use steroids experience any estrogen related problems. Many people have taken many cycles at high dosages without using any anti-estrogens and have reported that they experienced no symptoms of gyno. Other people can take a small dose of steroids for one cycle and develop noticeable enlargement of the breast.

Estrogen can be blocked in two ways: you can block it from aromatizing, or you can block it from binding to the estrogen receptors in the body.

Nolvadex prevents estrogen from binding to the estrogen receptors in the body. Nolvadex is generally taken only if and when symptoms of gyno appear. The typical dosage is 80mg the first day, 40mg every day until the symptoms subside and 20mg a day through the end of Clomid therapy. If you are taking low-moderate doses of steroids (200-600mg a week falls into that class) you can halve the Nolvadex dose.

Arimidex, Liquidex and Proviron all function as aromatase inhibitors and work by blocking estrogen from forming. Most body builders prefer to block the estrogen from forming, because in addition to preventing gyno, it also decreases water retention and keeps the body looking harder. Typical dosages for Arimidex are 0.25 mg a day to 0.5mg a day, with 0.25mg a day being average. Proviron is typically taken at a dosage of 50mg a day.

ALWAYS have an anti-estrogen on hand when you take steroids! Tits look great--but not on men! Even if you take an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex or Proviron, you should keep some Nolvadex on hand just in case the dose you are taking is too low and you start to see symptoms of gyno appear.

Q: If I Start having Symptoms of Gyno and I don’t have an anti-estrogen, should I just stop taking steroids?

A: Stopping your cycle won't fix the problem. Why?

1) You will still have estrogen in your body, so the tit-building continues.

2) You will still have steroids in your body for the next 2-3 weeks that will convert to estrogen, so the tit-building continues.

3) After all the steroids are metabolized your testosterone will be near zero and your body's natural estrogen levels will be high (yes, your body does produce some estrogen), which also means that tit-building will continue.

Stopping the steroids will not stop gyno. Anti-estrogens stop gyno.

If you don't take an aromatase inhibitor during your cycle like Arimidex or Proviron ALWAYS have some Nolvadex on hand. Even if you do use aromatase inhibitors, having Nolvadex on hand is still a good idea in case your Arimidex/Proviron dose is too low or you accidentally miss doses.

I recommend having no less than 60 x 20mg tabs of Nolvadex on hand before you start ANY cycle.

IMO, only a fool would start a cycle without anti-e's on hand.

Q: Are there any non-prescription anti-estrogens?

A: No. Sorry!

Q: I already have gyno, what can I do to make it go away?

A: If breasts tissue has already formed, the only treatment is surgical; anti-estrogens will have no effect in reducing the size.

50mg proviron...is it daily?should i take it everyday on my cycle?

[benzo22]

i have gyno. my personal opionion only, have your prolactin checked if its high then drug will take care of it.