SD cycle preview

[III]

I will start my SD cycle monday and just wanted to make sure I've got everything covered!!!

I am currently on NO-Xplode, creatine monohydrate, CLA, Fish Oil, Animal Pak, L-Glutamine.
I will stop the NO-Xplode & creatine monohydrate during my cycle & get back on for PCT.

4 wk cycle 10/10/20/20
DURING
milk thistle 1 wk before & during @ 900mg/ED (Is this enough.......should I take milk thistle PCT as well?)
EFA's

Should I throw in some Flush-Free Niacin, Hawthorn Berry Extract & Red Rice Yeast? (I believe that Niacin is @ the top of the list, so would Niacin & Milk Thistle be enough?) Whats should be the dosages of all?

PCT 4 wks
Clomid 4 wks @ 100mg ED
I believe that I should be running all supplements during PCT, is that right?
I will start back w/ NO-Xplode & Creatine Monohydrate during my PCT.
Should I look into getting some Tribulus or Tongkat as well???

Thanks for all the info fellas, just want to do everything right to get the best results!!!

Oh yeah here is my stats:
5'5" 145 5%BF
25 yo
hardcore training for 5 yrs

[THE_DOME]

looking real similar to my plan, looks good
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=222808

[diponyou]

i am also starting a sd cycle on monday

mine is only going to be for three weeks tho cuz this is my first one.

its going to be 10/20/20

while on the cycle i have red yeast rice,hawthrone berry,no-flush niacin,policosinal,flax pills,milk thistle

ill be taking all throughout the whole cycle and pct.but i also have nolva for pct.

and also i will be taking creatine for pct.cant wait!

[III]

what kind of dosages for your milk thistle, hawthorn berry, niacin, red yeast rice during the cycle on during pct?

thnx 4 the info, gl on your cycles!

[THE_DOME]

hawthorn 1500-2000mg ed
milk 1000mg ed
ff niacin 1200-1500 ed
i am estimating the rest of the vitamins should be taken like 1000mg ed

[Lil man 10]

looking forward to seeing your gains, thinking of trying this type of cycle my self, Im about your stats a little heavier but Im bulking at the moment you said your bf is 5% that is unreal got any pics
And as far as your supps go I would take at least 1500mg- 2g niacin ed since it is slightly weaker than the regular form dont forget lots of water!!!!
:7up:

[Lil man 10]

forgot to say I would go with nolva pct instead of clomid unless you have previously taken clomid and react well to it, IMO nolva is a superior compound with all the benefits of nolva plus and less sides, clomid has been known to affect ones vision while on it

[diponyou]

hey III

lookin forward toseeing what happens with your cycle.

my stats are 20 yrs old.5,9 180lbs
been working out hard for almost one year


what do you plan to gain from you cycle,are you just tryin to get bigger or are you tryin to imporve strength.

what are your goals as far as how much wieght do you want to gain.

im hoping at least 10 pounds after pct,and im hoping strength goes up in all categories.

im going to bust my ass in the gym tho.

[novastepp]

Vit. C Throws My Energy to a higher level,
1 take 6g ED...

[III]

Thanks for all the good info fellas. I will post before/after pics when cycle is over.

Dip........I am wanting to gain 10-12lbs of qaulity lean muscle, strength gains are really not what I'm looking for although it would be pretty sweet to join the 300 bench club for a guy of my stature (I'm @ 275 right now).
What I am really looking for is that insane vascularity, I love the garden hoses!!!!!!!

Lil..........I have a s_load of clomid left over and have used it before w/ no problems, so I might as well use that up. Next time I will go w/ Nolva.

Thanks again guys, I'll keep you boys updated about the progress!

[THE_DOME]

hey III you should put this in the members cycle progress and take pics

[diponyou]

you weigh 145 and you can bench 275,something is wrong here

[SVTMuscle*]

5'5 145 pounds? Do you look like a 5th grader?

Good luck with that stuff man

[diponyou]

so youve obviously done some form of sd,pp,or test and still only 145.

how long you been working out for.what is your diet

[RuhlFreak55]

i don't understand the rationale of stopping your NOxplode and creatine during the cycle? can anyone elaborate?......

[diponyou]

ill i know is that creatine will not be effective while doing sd.dont quote me though.i just know its not smart to take both

[novastepp]

i think he is stopping the creatine so he can accurately see what his gains from superdrol only will be. but if this were the case he shouldn't run it until after PCT though...so i don't know for sure...
and i would take Hawthorn Berry if i were you III...
people die of cardiovascular problems before they die of liver problems...
i think heart protection is very important.
and yeah some Trib or Tongkat would be smart for PCT...

[diponyou]

so i got hawthorne berry and policonsonal is this overkill for my superdrol cycel

[diponyou]

so i got hawthorne berry and policonsonal is this overkill for my superdrol cycel

[D-Bo Dre]

Damn another one starting a SD cycle this coming Monday.. I thought it was just u and me Diponyou.. Tight.. I’m doing it 4 weeks though.. 10/20/20/20. I’m 5’7 165lbs. Hoping to hit 175-180. I’ve been eating and training like a madman.. I’ve been taking 200mg (1 pill) of Milk Thistle and Multivitamins for a week now. On Monday I will start with the SD accompanied by the following supplements.

Week 1- Milk thistle (1pill); Multivitamins (1pill); Hawthorn berry (1pill); Niacin (1pill); Censor (1pill); SD (1pill)

Week 2; 3; 4- Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); SD (2pills)

PCT-

Week 5; 6; 7; 8; Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); Nolva @ 40mg; then 20mg weeks 6-8.

Question The Dome: Since I’m running basically all my supplements throughout and then during PCT don’t you think that hawthorn at 1500-2000mg ed; Milk 1000mg ed; niacin 1200-1500 ed is a little much???

Also what advice would you guys give as to the times I should be taking all this shit?? Spread out during the Morning; afternoon; night?? Or all at once? And Superdrol should be takin -1 of training right?

Thanks for your help ppl.

[III]

5'5 145 pounds? Do you look like a 5th grader?

Good luck with that stuff man

Nah, but I am a little dude, I have sprinter legs, not much mass at all on my lower body. When I tell people how much I weigh they are always surprised, I look like I weigh about 155-160. My upper body is on point!
Hoping w/ the SD cycle I will add some thickness to my legs!

[III]

so youve obviously done some form of sd,pp,or test and still only 145.

how long you been working out for.what is your diet

This is my first cycle w/ SD, I have experimented w/ a test/eq cycle and a test/eq cycle and had awesome results.
I've been working out for about 8 yrs/ 5 yrs hardcore! I follow a strict diet: chicken, tuna, rice, oatmeal, whey, etc........ very little fat!
I don't want to be walking around looking like a midget, know what I mean?

[III]

i think he is stopping the creatine so he can accurately see what his gains from superdrol only will be. but if this were the case he shouldn't run it until after PCT though...so i don't know for sure...
and i would take Hawthorn Berry if i were you III...
people die of cardiovascular problems before they die of liver problems...
i think heart protection is very important.
and yeah some Trib or Tongkat would be smart for PCT...

yeah I am stopping my intake of creatine because of the water weight and SD is a diuretic, only makes sense. I also want to see what gains I get from the SD cycle. I will start the creatine intake back up for pct to help solidify my gains.
I've got some Hawthorn Berry as well that I will be using during/after, thanks for the advice fellas..............

[diponyou]

Damn another one starting a SD cycle this coming Monday.. I thought it was just u and me Diponyou.. Tight.. I’m doing it 4 weeks though.. 10/20/20/20. I’m 5’7 165lbs. Hoping to hit 175-180. I’ve been eating and training like a madman.. I’ve been taking 200mg (1 pill) of Milk Thistle and Multivitamins for a week now. On Monday I will start with the SD accompanied by the following supplements.

Week 1- Milk thistle (1pill); Multivitamins (1pill); Hawthorn berry (1pill); Niacin (1pill); Censor (1pill); SD (1pill)

Week 2; 3; 4- Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); SD (2pills)

PCT-

Week 5; 6; 7; 8; Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); Nolva @ 40mg; then 20mg weeks 6-8.

Question The Dome: Since I’m running basically all my supplements throughout and then during PCT don’t you think that hawthorn at 1500-2000mg ed; Milk 1000mg ed; niacin 1200-1500 ed is a little much???

Also what advice would you guys give as to the times I should be taking all this shit?? Spread out during the Morning; afternoon; night?? Or all at once? And Superdrol should be takin -1 of training right?

Thanks for your help ppl.
i start taking my pills in the morning ande spread throguhout the day.if needed.

[III]

i start taking my pills in the morning ande spread throguhout the day.if needed.

Oh definately, thats how I always do it so thats the plan!

[Milky87]

yeah I am stopping my intake of creatine because of the water weight and SD is a diuretic, only makes sense. I also want to see what gains I get from the SD cycle. I will start the creatine intake back up for pct to help solidify my gains.
I've got some Hawthorn Berry as well that I will be using during/after, thanks for the advice fellas..............
Chances are that you wont actually solidify your gains by adding the creatine. By addign the creatine, you will reintroduce more water into your muscles, meaning you will gain some weight, but when you stop gaain, it will come off

[III]

Chances are that you wont actually solidify your gains by adding the creatine. By addign the creatine, you will reintroduce more water into your muscles, meaning you will gain some weight, but when you stop gaain, it will come off

With proper PCT, which is: Clomid, Niacin, Milk Thistle, NO-Xplode, & Tongkat Ali, I believe that I will be able to keep all of my gains. Isn't that the key???

And if I gain a few lbs. during PCT b/c of the NO-Xplode thats fine. Thats one of the reasons that I am taking in during PCT, so that I won't lose any of my gains while on SD cycle.
I usually take creatine year around!

[diponyou]

your sapposed to take creatine in cycles i believe.you are sapposed to go on for awhiel then go offfor awhile.i believe.

but anyways.did you start you sd cycle today.ive started mine today,cant wait for a couple weeks to see gains i get.good luck

[III]

your sapposed to take creatine in cycles i believe.you are sapposed to go on for awhiel then go offfor awhile.i believe.

but anyways.did you start you sd cycle today.ive started mine today,cant wait for a couple weeks to see gains i get.good luck

DIP....actually took my first pill yesterday, I wanted to go ahead and get it in my system, bout to go and hit the gym right now. Yeah bro I cant wait either.....I am going to keep a SD diary thread, so keep me updated on your gains too.............

[Milky87]

With proper PCT, which is: Clomid, Niacin, Milk Thistle, NO-Xplode, & Tongkat Ali, I believe that I will be able to keep all of my gains. Isn't that the key???

And if I gain a few lbs. during PCT b/c of the NO-Xplode thats fine. Thats one of the reasons that I am taking in during PCT, so that I won't lose any of my gains while on SD cycle.
I usually take creatine year around!
You would most likely be replacing the lost muscle with water.

your sapposed to take creatine in cycles i believe.you are sapposed to go on for awhiel then go offfor awhile.i believe.

but anyways.did you start you sd cycle today.ive started mine today,cant wait for a couple weeks to see gains i get.good luck
Supplementing with creatine does decrease your body's ability to produce it, but considering you are feeding yourself more than normal, I dont see why this is a problem. Cycling will just have you alternating from low(er) creatine levels to high(er), while taking it continually will make your levels high

[THE_DOME]

Damn another one starting a SD cycle this coming Monday.. I thought it was just u and me Diponyou.. Tight.. I’m doing it 4 weeks though.. 10/20/20/20. I’m 5’7 165lbs. Hoping to hit 175-180. I’ve been eating and training like a madman.. I’ve been taking 200mg (1 pill) of Milk Thistle and Multivitamins for a week now. On Monday I will start with the SD accompanied by the following supplements.

Week 1- Milk thistle (1pill); Multivitamins (1pill); Hawthorn berry (1pill); Niacin (1pill); Censor (1pill); SD (1pill)

Week 2; 3; 4- Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); SD (2pills)

PCT-

Week 5; 6; 7; 8; Milk thistle (2pills); Multivitamins (2pills); Hawthorn berry (2pills); Niacin (2pills); Censor (2pills); Nolva @ 40mg; then 20mg weeks 6-8.

Question The Dome: Since I’m running basically all my supplements throughout and then during PCT don’t you think that hawthorn at 1500-2000mg ed; Milk 1000mg ed; niacin 1200-1500 ed is a little much???

Also what advice would you guys give as to the times I should be taking all this shit?? Spread out during the Morning; afternoon; night?? Or all at once? And Superdrol should be takin -1 of training right?

Thanks for your help ppl.

in my eyes for vitamins i would rather be safe than sorry, if my body doesnt want that much i will pee it out. i take my pills in the morning and then a second dose at 4pm. this is the way i role

[THE_DOME]

looks like we have an abundance of superdrol cycle being started on 2/20 including me, lets get an official sd day by day analysis of our results. there all may vary, mine being that i am running a little bit higher doseage starting with sd at 20mg. dbol, 111 and dip let me know how your sd is treating you.
day 1,2 have been very good great endurance in the gym and strenght proabally due to placebo effect.

[Milky87]

in my eyes for vitamins i would rather be safe than sorry, if my body doesnt want that much i will pee it out. i take my pills in the morning and then a second dose at 4pm. this is the way i role
fat-soluable vitamins such as E and can build up to a toxic level if taken in too higher doses

[THE_DOME]

these vitamins are to prevent any problems, an amount such as 1500mg is not somethiing i would worry about. milky did you get a chance to read what pills i am taking? If so which ones would you lower on your sd cycle? thanks for your response

[III]

Days 1 & 2 went well, both good workouts. I did chest/back on mon. & bis/tris on tues. very intense and good pumps during both workouts especially bis/tris (they were on swole), chest & back were both sore tues. gained 1 lb the first day (I will take 1 lb a day everyday)!
delts/traps/legs today (wed.)
My diet has been good and seems like I am eating more than normal (probably all in the mind since its only day 3)!

Gotta go eat!!!

[THE_DOME]

day three of sd eating great training great, may be weird but i put on 5lbs in less than 5 days, keep me posted on everyones sd cycle

[diponyou]

mines good.

strength feels up due to placebo for sure but i dont care,its up.

havent got on the scale yet.

diet doing reall good.

about to hit the gym rite now and get some shoulders in.

ill go hit the scale while im there.

i was at 175 when i started

[THE_DOME]

keep me posted dip

[III]

Delts/Traps (AM)
very good shoulder workout this morning, strength is increasing ie: (Smith Machine Shoulder Press 145-12, 155-10, 165-8, 175-6). Very intense pumps, delts felt like they were going to explode. Started to get a little nauscious toward the end of the workout b/c I was running out of caloric energy.

Legs/Calves/Abs (PM)
evening workout went really well, killed legs and this is key since I am needing to gain some size in my legs during this cycle.

all in all, everything is going well so far, diet is kicking ass and no sign of any sides yet (but its still early). Got chest/back again 2morrow!
oh yeah up another lb. today (2 in 2 days)!

Gotta go eat!

[diponyou]

man III you get 2 workouts in.i wish i could do that.are you even able to recover?

well i worked out my shoulders today and it was a pretty decent workout.nothing spectacular but it was cool.

do any of you guys know when strength gains are sapposed to come??


no sides yet but its way to early to tell.

[D-Bo Dre]

Wussup Drol headz.. Monday I did'nt have that much time to train, but I still had a decent back workout (1hr)... Felt very strong. Tuesday I had class and couldnt train just ate a lot and did push ups.. Today, I trained tri's/bi's and abs.. I have been eating a ton and feel a little bloated. I dont know if its b/c of the food I'm eating or the SD. Gained only a pound. Is anyone here doing cardio?? or just weights?

Keep postin and keep them #'s coming!!!:haha:

[THE_DOME]

dip,I think as far as strenght i think withing a couple of days, Personally i am going ape shit in the gym doing everything needed to gain that 10-15 already put on 5 10more to go. d-bo man you need to make some time to pump, skip a class if you have to, wake up early because this sd is the shit.

[III]

DAY 4:

Man, I really feel it starting to kick in! Today I got on the scale and was up 2 lbs. from yesterday, total of 4lbs. in 4 days!!!

CHEST (AM)
chest wrkt went really well this morning.......used more weight or more reps on every exercise (compared to mon chest wrkt)..........really killed my chest, pecs were really on swole..........had good energy and good focus throughout the entire wrkt.

TRIS (PM)
another good wrkt this evening........used all super sets or drop sets for this triceps wrkt........great pump (even awhile after my wrkt) & veins are really starting to pop out (thats what I am looking for)!!!

Diet & supplementation is going well.......still no sign of any sides as of yet!
Got BIS/ABS/CALVES tomorrow & then a much needed weekend of rest.

Gotta Go Eat

[III]

dip,I think as far as strenght i think withing a couple of days, Personally i am going ape shit in the gym doing everything needed to gain that 10-15 already put on 5 10more to go. d-bo man you need to make some time to pump, skip a class if you have to, wake up early because this sd is the shit.

DOME.......when did you start? (Mon as well?) If so 5lbs in 4 days thats awesome!!! Keep up the hard work!

D-BO........Yeah bro, get that ass in the gym!!!

[THE_DOME]

ya man about 5lbs so far strength is going through the roof. i did infact start monday feeling really good and healthy.

[diponyou]

im about to hit the gym in 20 minutes.

def noticing strength gains in all categories.its pretty awesome!!!!

havent been able to weight myself on an empty stomach but i will when i get the chance.

i too feel bloated alot of the time.kinda sucks but im sure its temp...

tonight im going to hit bis,tris,4arms.

cant wait to see what i can do.

my diet is going well,as is the suppliments.

i just got my weight gainer in the mail today and going to be drinking some wg shakes for the rest of the cycle.hopefully helps me out a little.

well glad to hear everyones cycles are going smoothely.

now im going to go get my arms nice and swolen

[THE_DOME]

week one over for me
all workout pretty good all bodyparts were sore
i have been keeping up on protein, at about 300g per day.
almost dont want to take any days off but i have to i am sore all over.
as far as health i get headache right after i pop my sd but goes away no signs of sides, i have been taking nova ed along with all my vitamins.
next week is going to be big i am upping my dose to 30mg a day i am planning to remain buck ass wild in the gym like usuall.
other sd keep me posted daily pre and post workout if possible

[D-Bo Dre]

The Drol is going great.. Gained 5lbs so far.. Strength seems the same, but my endurance is what has improved the most. I spent 2 1/2 hours at the gym today and it seemed like only an 1hr!! My whole body is sore though.. I really have'nt noticed any sides yet except for the mild bloats.. Starting monday I'm upping SD to 20mg a day as well as 2 pills a day for all my other supps. That will be a total of 12 pills a day.. What im doing is taking Milk Thistle early in the morning prior to breakfast b/c I believe it's the most important sup. Then I spread out the others throughout the day. Is that what everyone else is doing? holla..

[diponyou]

just started my 2nd week.20mg a day of sd now.

i hit chest today and let me tell you this stuff works

benched 245 twice and then hit 225 about 5 times after that.

before sd i was maxing at 235 and only one time.

no sides yet besides some major bloating like always it kinda sucks balls.

diet is going good and im just waiting for my nolva

[Scorpion25]

Whats up...this tread is great....Good to hear about eveyones SD cycle....

I'm on my 12th day....i've already upped the dose to 20mg.....everything has been great so far....I'm 5'7 and 152lbs.....I've never been able to gain weight.....right now I'm at 157lbs.....I've been taking all the supplements that everyone recommends with SD cycle.

I haven't really noticed any strength gains but...I guess thats coming too....but i have been pushing my self at the gym.

The only problem that i've noticed has happened for the 1st time today....and that is BACK PAIN.....OMG!!!! i can't explain to you how much pain im in....it's not the type of back pain that you can lift boxes and stuff....its a real weird back pain...the lower muscles are hurting like hell....
I was wonderin should i just take some back pain medicine for this like advil or something.....or should i just wait it out?? what do you guys think?? any professional advice?

[D-Bo Dre]

wussup Scorpion, I also noticed the back pain, but it was after working out my legs on Friday and doing some lunges.. It was'nt unbearable but it was a little uncomfortable.. I have been rubbing some icy-hot and that seems to make it feel better. I heard that SD does have that side effect though.. If its really bad just take some asprin.. I dont know what else to tell you bro.

When are you guys taking the SD?? i'm taking 10mg @ 11am and then my second 10mg @ 5pm since it has a 6hr half life.. :scratch:

[III]

Is everybody jumping upto 20mg for their 2nd week or what? I think I am going to stay at 10mg (I am a little smaller than you guys and 10mg seemed to work really well the 1st week)!

[DevilsDeity]

its a back pump if you just sit down for a few and try to relax it will go away
, mine got real bad while i was working out and sometimes almost did not make it to the car. but after driving home (about 20 min drive) the pump was all gone.

[diponyou]

well i just got my nolva so im ready.


i havent exp any back pains yet but i cant wait......:icon_roll

i am really happy with my strength gain.really happy.

well i gotta go eat so ill be back late

[lc1987]

hi i am very new to this kinda stuff. i have been doing my research and everything and i have learned a lot but still fresh so bear with me please. should i take cellucor p6 for my pct. i am thinking of taking superdrol and take milk thistle along with it. also how long would it take for the superdrol to wear off of my body cuz i am in the military and i ship out july 21st and i am thinking of running sd on april for a month. what else should i take other than the milk thistle? any help would be appreciated. thanks

[diponyou]

hey.....

well for pct im running

milk thistle
flax
hawthorne berry
no-flush niacin
nolva
creatine

im only on week 2 but man this stuff def works.

do some reading before you jump on a cycle though.

im also leaving for the military.

i leave in april though.

[III]

Whats up...this tread is great....Good to hear about eveyones SD cycle....

I'm on my 12th day....i've already upped the dose to 20mg.....everything has been great so far....I'm 5'7 and 152lbs.....I've never been able to gain weight.....right now I'm at 157lbs.....I've been taking all the supplements that everyone recommends with SD cycle.

I haven't really noticed any strength gains but...I guess thats coming too....but i have been pushing my self at the gym.

The only problem that i've noticed has happened for the 1st time today....and that is BACK PAIN.....OMG!!!! i can't explain to you how much pain im in....it's not the type of back pain that you can lift boxes and stuff....its a real weird back pain...the lower muscles are hurting like hell....
I was wonderin should i just take some back pain medicine for this like advil or something.....or should i just wait it out?? what do you guys think?? any professional advice?

Scorp...........you're on your 12th day and have only gained 5lbs?!?........what is your diet like?........what doseage are you taking of SD?............Just wondering, I gained 5lbs w/in the 1st 5 days!
Make sure you are getting alot of clean calories (you should be taking in atleast 300g of protein daily) and lots of water in everyday, remember OUTSIDE of the gym is where you grow!!!
GL w/ the rest of your cycle & PCT

[III]

The Drol is going great.. Gained 5lbs so far.. Strength seems the same, but my endurance is what has improved the most. I spent 2 1/2 hours at the gym today and it seemed like only an 1hr!! My whole body is sore though.. I really have'nt noticed any sides yet except for the mild bloats.. Starting monday I'm upping SD to 20mg a day as well as 2 pills a day for all my other supps. That will be a total of 12 pills a day.. What im doing is taking Milk Thistle early in the morning prior to breakfast b/c I believe it's the most important sup. Then I spread out the others throughout the day. Is that what everyone else is doing? holla..

D-Bo............Good Sh!t, glad to hear about the gains. You say your upping all of your supplements to 2 pills a day? Were you taking only 1 milk thistle pill, 1 niacin pill, 1 fish/flax oil pill a day, etc...???
**You need to make sure that you are getting atleast 1000-1500mg of Milk Thistle daily, 2000mg of Flush-Free Niacin daily, 5-10g of Fish/Flax Oil daily!!
I am currently taking 6-8 pills of each!! (25 pills ED)
Just making sure & thats my .02

[lc1987]

hey.....

well for pct im running

milk thistle
flax
hawthorne berry
no-flush niacin
nolva
creatine

im only on week 2 but man this stuff def works.

do some reading before you jump on a cycle though.

im also leaving for the military.

i leave in april though.


wussup diponyou. i just have a couple of questions man. do you think you'll be able to make the drug test if you are leaving on april bro. because that is like my biggest concern is to fail the test man. i was thinking of running sd on april and do my pct on may then i'll have like 2 months to flush the sd out of my system. i ship out at july 21st do you think it's enough time for me to do it? i do not want to fail the drug test when i go there you know because that's the last thing i need. thanks man

[THE_DOME]

on week two now i am upping to 30mg ed. i am up 6lbs from start i am 246. felling good having great pumps and geting hella strong

[D-Bo Dre]

D-Bo............Good Sh!t, glad to hear about the gains. You say your upping all of your supplements to 2 pills a day? Were you taking only 1 milk thistle pill, 1 niacin pill, 1 fish/flax oil pill a day, etc...???
**You need to make sure that you are getting atleast 1000-1500mg of Milk Thistle daily, 2000mg of Flush-Free Niacin daily, 5-10g of Fish/Flax Oil daily!!
I am currently taking 6-8 pills of each!! (25 pills ED)
Just making sure & thats my .02


Wussup bro.. Yea, I was taking just 1 supp dosage a day for the first week.. But keep in mind that I also began with 1 supp dosage a day a week prior to my first SD pill to get my body accustomed to it.. Now week 2, I upped it up and will continue with the supps until after PCT. I am getting 1000mg daily of Nicacin, but only 400mg daily of Milk Thistle.. I guess you right about the Milk thistle, I might up that up, because my liver is what worries me the most. As far as the other supps I think I’m just going to continue with my planned dosages. IMO (25pills ED) is a little much for the body to handle. It will most likely leave through urine anyway right!?!? :scratch:

Also I am using a product by the name of Censor instead of Read Yeast Rice.. Its for cholesterol levels.. I don’t know if you’ve heard of it.. Anyways let me know what u think -gotta go eat..

[D-Bo Dre]

on week two now i am upping to 30mg ed. i am up 6lbs from start i am 246. felling good having great pumps and geting hella strong

Good shit Dome, are you having a lot of energy at the gym?? I usually drink a redbull then head to the gym.. It gives me that extra boost b/c the SD has me a little sluggish somedays.. :scratch:

I've also been having some really F'd up dreams lately.. Like bonning some girls at the gym while on the stairmaster.. It's not like I'm complaining but I dont know what the hell is going through my head sometimes.. Damn SD!! :lol:

[THE_DOME]

for those sluggish days i usually hit some ephedrine or caffine pill, it gets me a good little freak time in the gym

[lc1987]

does anyone know how long will sd stay in my system? i am planning on doing a cycle on april then pct on may but then i ship out for the navy at july 21st i am just wondering if i will be able to pass the drug test. should i just use phera-plex instead? any help would be much appreciated.

[THE_DOME]

well the life of sd in your system is six hours, but as far as detection time not sure man

[lc1987]

well the life of sd in your system is six hours, but as far as detection time not sure man


so you're saying that one dose of sd will last about six hours? if that's true then i should be good then

[D-Bo Dre]

What you should do Ic, is ask what is being tested on the drug test and then research the chemicals found in superdrol. That’s your answer. There are many different test ran for different types of drugs or chemicals. Urine drug testing is the most common form of drug testing. Toxins are stored in the fat cells of the body. In order to release these toxins into the bloodstream, the fat cells must be burned. In the blood the toxins are filtered out by the kidneys and sent to the bladder.

If they are testing for anabolic steroids, I believe that there are many cleansers available. As far as, reliability I am not certain.

[III]

Wussup bro.. Yea, I was taking just 1 supp dosage a day for the first week.. But keep in mind that I also began with 1 supp dosage a day a week prior to my first SD pill to get my body accustomed to it.. Now week 2, I upped it up and will continue with the supps until after PCT. I am getting 1000mg daily of Nicacin, but only 400mg daily of Milk Thistle.. I guess you right about the Milk thistle, I might up that up, because my liver is what worries me the most. As far as the other supps I think I’m just going to continue with my planned dosages. IMO (25pills ED) is a little much for the body to handle. It will most likely leave through urine anyway right!?!? :scratch:

Also I am using a product by the name of Censor instead of Read Yeast Rice.. Its for cholesterol levels.. I don’t know if you’ve heard of it.. Anyways let me know what u think -gotta go eat..

Thats good that you started with the supps a week before you started your cycle (I did the same)........only 400mg of Milk Thistle daily is not enough, you should be taking in atleast 1000mg (liver is my biggest concern during my SD cycle)........1000mg of regular Niacin is perfect but if it is Flush-Free Niacin you should double the intake to 2000mg (you only get 50% of your intake w/ Flush-Free; therefore 2000mg will give you 1000mg)........as for your EFA's (Fish/Flax Oils) I read where you should take in 10g ED.......and yes what your body doesn't use you will piss out!!!
GL w/ the rest of your cycle, keep me posted on the gains!!!

[III]

What up DrolHeadz,

Just started week 2 & everything is going well, I am still running 10mg ED but will bump it up to 20mg starting next week. Still no sign of hardly any sides. I have experienced some weird dreams and it seems like I am sweating during my sleep a bit as well. No cramping in the back, no lack of energy, etc.....

Day 8 (Mon.)
Bis/Tris/Abs
Day 9 (Tues.)
Chest/Calves
Everything is going extremely well in the gym and strength is going thru the roof, I am getting very good pumps throughout my entire workouts and it is lasting a good time after the workouts as well. I am starting to lose alot of water weight and am looking very hard w/ veins popping out everywhere.........my diet has continued to be good (taking in around 3000 calories, 300g of protein & 300g of carbs (rice&oatmeal) daily w/ very little fat). I have gained a total of 6lbs!!!

Keep the results coming......gotta go eat!!!

[Scorpion25]

III thanks for all the info....as I mentioned before i'm a hard gainer....I would have never taken this route if it was easy for me to gain weight....but your right about gaining....well....being at work and all it's so hard to keep a clean diet....or to eat on time....

Today the back pain (pump) feels a little better.....I haven't noticed any sexual problems....at all....cuz i'm having same great sex as always....but i;ve noticed another problem....I don't know if its cuz of the back pain....it's just that i'm getting irritated easily....people get on my nerves in a minute....i'm being really anti-social....is this normal.....??
I mean its no big deal i'll just suck it up for another few weeks and it'll be all good....I was just wondering.

[chris2wire]

Can you guys comment on sides, more specifically acne?

I get no acne in regular life, but when I used test I got bad acne... How are you guys doing with acne (And throw in how you did with acne on other steroid cycles for comparison)

EDIT: Additionally, SD is only in your system for six hours? Does that mean it only helps growth for 6 hours? Makes no sense... You grow when you sleep, not when youre awake which is when the 6 hours are going by...

[Scorpion25]

I;ve never done any other steriods....and SD is the very 1st thing i've ever used....soon as i started using it...I noticed a few pimples pop-up on the side of my arm...2 on my chest...and 1or 2 on my back....but thats it nothing else.....

[THE_DOME]

i am on day 8 no sides but i take nova ed

[diponyou]

dome your taking nova while on sd also???????

never herd of that....

any ways...

i really dont think you have anything to worry about lc1987 as far as drug test goes.

ill be done with my cycle 1 month before i leave so im sure 1 month is long enough for anything to get out.and thats assuming they test for that.

[D-Bo Dre]

i am on day 8 no sides but i take nova ed

Dome, Why are you taking nova already?? :scratch:

[diponyou]

as far as everything else goes.i love this stuff

im gettting compliments from everybody at my work tellin me i look bigger.and my strenght gains are incredible.

my diet is going good and workouts are doing good also.

no signs of sides besides i cant sleep very well and im always tired .

im hopeing for next week to bench 265

[THE_DOME]

my mentality is i want to prevent sides, not attack them after they happen, i have liquid nova i take just a little.

[III]

Back (AM)
Legs/Calves (PM)

Another 2lbs today, this sh!t is off the hook. I am encountering crazy pumps & vascularity is insane! Strength is improving every workout!
This morning I woke up w/ a sore throat & a stuffy nose, feels like first signs of a cold. I went straight to the store and got some Airborne and will take that the next two days. I think probably b/c I have been sweating during my sleep and I slept w/ the fan on the last 2 nights. Still felt great during my workouts!!! Other than that no signs of any other sides.
Muscles are starting to look really dense!

Chris...........I haven't experienced any acne whatsoever during my cycle!

[THE_DOME]

Back (AM)
Legs/Calves (PM)

Another 2lbs today, this sh!t is off the hook. I am encountering crazy pumps & vascularity is insane! Strength is improving every workout!
This morning I woke up w/ a sore throat & a stuffy nose, feels like first signs of a cold. I went straight to the store and got some Airborne and will take that the next two days. I think probably b/c I have been sweating during my sleep and I slept w/ the fan on the last 2 nights. Still felt great during my workouts!!! Other than that no signs of any other sides.
Muscles are starting to look really dense!

Chris...........I haven't experienced any acne whatsoever during my cycle!

i am starting to get jelous, i am going to go home and eat and pull a double tommorow. just joking good work man
how many cals/pro/carbs are you getting a day

[III]

i am starting to get jelous, i am going to go home and eat and pull a double tommorow. just joking good work man
how many cals/pro/carbs are you getting a day

3000+ cals
300g protein (chicken, tuna, protein)
300g carbs (oats, rice, sweet potatoes)

[Scorpion25]

you guys are so freaking lucky...no sides at all.....

Ok as i've already mention that i am getting crazy back pains (pumps) so much pressure back there....but it just kinda comes and goes.....and guess what now......I have been having for the past 2 days.....serious pain in the abdominals....last night i had to sleep with the pain....and i;ve had the pain since this morning...it's like the pain that you get when you gotta go to the bath room really really bad cuz you ate one too many chilli dogs....but i dont need to go at all......I don't know how much longer i can deal with the pain.....
Even at the gym....when im really pushing my self....my heart rate sky rockets.....i do breathing excercises to calm my self....

You guys think maybe i should drop back down to 10mg??

any other suggestions at all??

PLEASE HELP

[THE_DOME]

to try and eliminate back bumps you are suppose to take tuarine and eat lots of bananas

[THE_DOME]

did back and trap to day good pump weight is still the same. looking forward to taking a day or two off from the gym

[III]

Another good workout today!!! Gained another lb. today. Have been feeling kind of dehydrated this week so I have upped my H2O intake (1+ gal. daily).
Pumps & vascularity is unbelievable!! One more workout tomorrow and a much needed weekend of rest. Will be upping my dose to 20mg starting Mon.

Gotta go eat!

[Scorpion25]

i'll start pounding down bananas

[THE_DOME]

today was an off day trying to eat big to get big, looking forward to a shoulder pump tommorow morning

[BigCarrne]

I'm at the end of my third week and so far everything is going good. I have gained about 12lbs and have had noticable gains in the gym. My questions are: is the lower back pain my kidneys hurting or is it something else. Also is any one else experiencing rages..i loose my temper so quick lately and i want to fight every one.

[spyderUSMC]

Oh yeah...HUGE lower back pains. Not sure about whether it's kidneys. I do notice that my lower back is hard as a rock. I've also found myself getting angry pretty quickly. The biggest thing is just getting past the lower back pain. GREAT GAINS all around, tho.

[D-Bo Dre]

Yeah, I’ve also noticed that I’m getting aggravated lately, at least easier than I used to be.. But I just say to myself that its all in my head and get over it fast.. I’m not going out to clubs or bars like I used to, so I think that’s good (danger to society) .. Keeps me out of trouble for a while.. :evil2:

Great gains so far though.. Up 8lbs.. today is my off day.. Eating lots before I enter my 3rd week..:7up:

[THE_DOME]

ya i may have a short fuse but i dont notice. i have been getting some great pumps everyday it seems like.

[diponyou]

worst hangover ive ever had..............


but today is chest day but i have a ****in flat tire and no way to get to the gym.


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhh

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ii!t



so i guess ill i can do is a bunch of pushups and sit ups and some small tri excersizes.man this sucks.but ill have it fixed 2 morow.my only sides are acne.i dunno if its because of the sd but i never get pimples on my forhead ut i got a bunch now.it sucks.no back pains.no real anger problems.so far a pretty good cycle.

[T3/T4 GSR]

Don't you have a spare in the trunk or have a friend with one that might fit? Lil exercise wont hurt lol.

[diponyou]

nope i got a lil mini truck on bags so no dice on the spare.but anyways ill jsut go tomorow

[THE_DOME]

dip hope you had a great bday,

i got to the gym after two days off of eating hardcore and i am up approx 10lbs i made the 250club i am bigger than ever and feeling and looking huge. i am putting up some good weight this is week three i am keeping sd at 30 and the final week at 40. i have been having extreme back tightness and short temper alot of fighting with the girlffiend.

[THE_DOME]

did bis and tris today my arms have gained probally 1/2 inch on my cycle there up to 18+, getting amazing pumps. still no sides

[diponyou]

well actually i my bday isnt untill next week but i got drunk the other night and i do regret it.

but anyways.

i benched 275 pounds on tuesday.thats pretty good for me.

but no sides,eating is good.and so is everything else.

awesome power gains!!!!!!!!

man this stuff is awesome.

[lc1987]

wuts up yall. could you guys possibly post your b4 and after pics. i would like to see how much you guys have gained after the sd cycle. i will be doing my cycle probably beggining of april. thanks

[THE_DOME]

today was legs i have never really hit em hard. but the last three weeks i ahve been going buck wild today went like this
squats
135x15
185x10
225x8
245x6
265x6
275x4
leg press
270x15
360x12
450x10
540x8
270x15
then 5 sets leg extension and 5 of leg curl
this is alot for my lanky ass

[THE_DOME]

d-bo i see you viewing are you going to update us

[D-Bo Dre]

Yeah my bad man, I'm checking in and out of the MB at work and havent really had a chance to post..

My gains have been great.. up 9lbs and my strength is improving daily. No sides at all (knock on wood).. I'm drinking a gallon of water so I think thats helping me.. Yesterday was tris and bi's.. on the sitting curl machine I managed 90lbs 8x (2 -45lbs plates).. Today is shoulders and traps.. I'll post up later.. Let's keep tearing up that gym :evil2:

[THE_DOME]

Yeah my bad man, I'm checking in and out of the MB at work and havent really had a chance to post..

My gains have been great.. up 9lbs and my strength is improving daily. No sides at all (knock on wood).. I'm drinking a gallon of water so I think thats helping me.. Yesterday was tris and bi's.. on the sitting curl machine I managed 90lbs 8x (2 -45lbs plates).. Today is shoulders and traps.. I'll post up later.. Let's keep tearing up that gym :evil2:


atta bo d-bo, what are you planning after this sd cycle. I am going to hit test e 12wk cycle.

[THE_DOME]

weight hasnt changed i am at 249 and feeling pretty big, did back today felt alright endurance is good feel like i could go for 2hrs sometimes

[BigCarrne]

Today is the last day of my cylce and i really don't want to quit. Started at 162 and ended at 179. My girl loves it. What are you guys gonna run during the pct, i was thinking of trying NO expolde.

[THE_DOME]

no-explode is pretty good i will hit that up along with my nova

[lc1987]

hi,

i don't wanna sound like an idiot or anything but i heard that u need a prescription to get nolva. do i just come in to my doctor and then ask him for a prescription? where did you guys get yours? i will run my cycle on april but i still don't have a nolva. thanks a lot guys.

[D-Bo Dre]

No man, you dont need a prescription for Nolva.. Just click on the highlighted Nolva, and it will direct you to the AR site where u can purchase it. It is labled Tamox- $55

[lc1987]

thanks for the quick reply d-bo. how many of these do i need for like a 4 week cycle? do i need to use syringes to do this? i don't wanna sound like a ***** or anything but i hate needles lol. and plus i don't want my parents seeing me injecting something on myself they might think it steroids. but if it's the only one i guess i am just gonna have to take it....

[D-Bo Dre]

no needles bro, its an oral syringe. It tastes like peppermint. one bottle of 50mL will do.

[diponyou]

not to sound like a dick or anything but you can get it from i b e nutrition for about 20 bucks cheaper.it jus dosent taste good.

thats where i got mine.

but you can do what you want.

any ways.

did arms today and ive never had a pump like that in my life.my arms were f@ckin swolen.

my cycle is going really good with little to no sides besides :_1106:

i almost punched my assistant manager in the mouth today.

i wanted to pick him up and squat him a couple times.

but anyways....

let me hear how the cycles are going.

o and ive gained around 15 pounds so far

[lc1987]

not to sound like a dick or anything but you can get it from i b e nutrition for about 20 bucks cheaper.it jus dosent taste good.

thats where i got mine.

but you can do what you want.

any ways.

did arms today and ive never had a pump like that in my life.my arms were f@ckin swolen.

my cycle is going really good with little to no sides besides :_1106:

i almost punched my assistant manager in the mouth today.

i wanted to pick him up and squat him a couple times.

but anyways....

let me hear how the cycles are going.

o and ive gained around 15 pounds so far


where is i b e nutrition man? is it as good as a regular nolva? i really dont care if it taste bad. thanks bro

[lc1987]

hey dip which one did you buy fron i b e nutrition? is it called tamoxifen citrate or something? it says "THIS PRODUCT IS NOT FOR HUMAN USE, THIS PRODUCT CAN BE HARMFUL IF INGESTED." do they ship fast?

[Powerlift1]

Whats your dosage for nolva during pct?

[diponyou]

hey dip which one did you buy fron i b e nutrition? is it called tamoxifen citrate or something? it says "THIS PRODUCT IS NOT FOR HUMAN USE, THIS PRODUCT CAN BE HARMFUL IF INGESTED." do they ship fast?
yes thats it.

im going with 40 mg for the 1st week then 20mg the next 3

one dropper full is 20mg

[THE_DOME]

this is the last week of sd, i am really going to try and push teh shit to the limits.

[lc1987]

hi,

i am going to start my drol cycle on march 29th. along with it, i will be taking the following:

no flush Niacin 1000 mg
hawthorne berry 1130 mg
milk thistle 1050 mg
sd 10/20/20

this is my first cycle so should i go with a 3 week cycle10/20/20 or 10/20/30?

as for pct i will be taking nolva 40/20/20/20. is this a right amount?
should i take no flush niacin, hawthorne, and milk thistle during pct? if so at what dosage? and one more question should i clean bulk during my sd cycle or cut? i am currently cutting right now and i am down about 13-14% bf and i would like to go down between 8-10 just to see the abs hopefully by the second week of april or by the end of sd cycle. i would like to get some suggestions from you guys b/c you guys know what you're doing. thanks a lot.

p.s. how should i take the supps. during sd cycle and pct. i mean how should i spread them?

[lc1987]

i forgot to add multi vit. (centrum) vit c, and flax seed oil along with my supps.

[hardgainer12]

wow awesome thread guys. keep up the hard work. all u guys should post some b4/after pics. im runnin m1t right now but i have a bottle of sd and cant wait to run that later.

[THE_DOME]

hi,

i am going to start my drol cycle on march 29th. along with it, i will be taking the following:

no flush Niacin 1000 mg
hawthorne berry 1130 mg
milk thistle 1050 mg
sd 10/20/20

this is my first cycle so should i go with a 3 week cycle10/20/20 or 10/20/30?

as for pct i will be taking nolva 40/20/20/20. is this a right amount?
should i take no flush niacin, hawthorne, and milk thistle during pct? if so at what dosage? and one more question should i clean bulk during my sd cycle or cut? i am currently cutting right now and i am down about 13-14% bf and i would like to go down between 8-10 just to see the abs hopefully by the second week of april or by the end of sd cycle. i would like to get some suggestions from you guys b/c you guys know what you're doing. thanks a lot.

p.s. how should i take the supps. during sd cycle and pct. i mean how should i spread them?

I will be taking all of my vitamins pct along with nova. sd promotes primarily lean muscle mass so you shouldnt really be putting on too much fat just eat 6-8 clean meals a day. i have put 9lbs of solid gains

[THE_DOME]

took the weekend off, going to start with chest tonight at the gym i will probally be maxing just to see where i am at before and after.

[lc1987]

how should i spread my supps during the day? here are my supps:

sd 10/20/20 or should i make it 10/20/30?
no flush niacin 1000 mg
hawthorne berry 1130 mg
milk thistle 1050 mg

how should i devide these? as far as pct go, i will take the same amount of supps but how should i spread them during pct? should i do sd for 10/20/20 or 10/20/30. it's a 3 week cycle and this is my first cycle. thanks guys

[D-Bo Dre]

how should i spread my supps during the day? here are my supps:

sd 10/20/20 or should i make it 10/20/30?
no flush niacin 1000 mg
hawthorne berry 1130 mg
milk thistle 1050 mg

how should i devide these? as far as pct go, i will take the same amount of supps but how should i spread them during pct? should i do sd for 10/20/20 or 10/20/30. it's a 3 week cycle and this is my first cycle. thanks guys


Start with milk thistle in the morning on an empty stomach, then the other supps. spread out evenly throughout the day. (maybe 2 hrs in between) I usually take 10mg @ 11am then the second 10mg @ 5pm (superdrol has a half-life of 6hrs). I advise you do 10/20/20. Also run the same dosage of supps. throughout pct. Good luck bro..

You never gave us your stats??

[D-Bo Dre]

this is the last week of sd, i am really going to try and push teh shit to the limits.

Same here Dome.. Let's tear that gym up harder then ever!!! :evil2:

Today I had a killer back workout.. Maxed out on the lat pulldown with 4 caddies on each side.. (south florida slang for 45lb plates) haa.. I wanna put as much weight up this last week and then try to lean up during pct. Imma try to push myself to the full 7 days this week.. WHat do you guys think??

[diponyou]

do you mean you want to work out 7 days str8 this week?????????

i would advise that you get some rest.....

as far as me i am doing really well,my schedule got all messed up so i had to take a day off today and i got to go in 2 morow and hit chest.im going to go for 285 or maybee more depending on how i feel.

i got one more week on sd then i start my pct.

although,ive started taking my nolva this week


lc1987-i would advise not to go over 20mg of sd,ive read some bad things about going to 30,liver values,extreme bakc pain,and so on.

my schedule went like this

sd-10/20/20/20,

nolva-40/20/20/20

spread my pills out evenly throguhout the day,i dont think it really makes a difference as long as you spread it out.

good luck all

[THE_DOME]

well i decided to stop taking sd, and start my pct this week. My three weeks went down like this started out 20/30/30
240lbs ended 250
bench went from 276x4 to 276x6 and 315x2
bench went up 20-25lbs
squat up 30lbs
overall sd treated me really well i have stopped sd prematurely to get started on my pct and be ready for my test cycle in april.
keep me posted

[diponyou]

ok so does anybody in here now how long sd can be tested in your urine for????????????????????


well anyways i am going to hit chest tongiht and im going to tear it up.im going to go for something around 300.not sure yet.

ill come back and post when im done

[diponyou]

well jus got back from the gym and i hit 285 for one some what solid rep.i pretty proud of myself.

all my supps are still doing good.i ran out of red yeast rice and flax so i need to go get some more.

how imprtant are these 2 supps.are they necessary or should i jsut continue without them

let me know how eveyones cycle is coming.

hey dome why did you decide to end early...too much back pain or wut?/


i was having some bad back pain today.

but still no reall visible sides

[diponyou]

wwell here is a pic of my back after my sd cycle.im not good at posing and still have one mroe week.but here it is.ill try and get some better ones

[THE_DOME]

ya man, back is always tight and sore, i sit a desk all day. but i have three bottles of sd left so i will probally hit some later in life, i am just really anxious to start my test and tbol cycle. flax is optional but a neccesity, not sure about red rice

[diponyou]

how much you wanna sell a bottle for???????

[D-Bo Dre]

damn, someone is slangin SD now?? :lol:

hey Dip, your doing Nolva 40/20/20/20?

[THE_DOME]

now that i am on day three of pct i am sleeping so good, i noticed while on sd i was always tossing an turning. i am up to 253 now

[lc1987]

is it ok to combine eca stack with sd??? cuz i am cutting right now and some people use sd for cutting so i am just wondering if it's safe

[THE_DOME]

not sure, bump

[rake922]

THE DOME, Can you continue with where you left off?

[THE_DOME]

day 7 of pct feeling good still maintaining my 253, havnt lost any weight mabee just a little strength. basically gained 10 solid lbs in 3 weeks

[lc1987]

how is everyone's diet like? bulking or clean bulk?

[THE_DOME]

mine is clean bulk

[lc1987]

mine is clean bulk

did you gain any fat at all man? b/c i am currently 13% and i don't really want to gain any more fat while on cycle so i'm thinking that i should eat a lot of carbs during the day maybe 200-240 grams and then limit my carbs to about 10-15 grams of carbs after 4pm. do you think that's a good idea?

[THE_DOME]

did you gain any fat at all man? b/c i am currently 13% and i don't really want to gain any more fat while on cycle so i'm thinking that i should eat a lot of carbs during the day maybe 200-240 grams and then limit my carbs to about 10-15 grams of carbs after 4pm. do you think that's a good idea?


ya for sure sd puts on lean muscle mass, i actually look more cut i am at 13% as well,tapering your carbs is good but it depends on how much you weight
i go 6 meals with the last two not having any carbs

[lc1987]

ya for sure sd puts on lean muscle mass, i actually look more cut i am at 13% as well,tapering your carbs is good but it depends on how much you weight
i go 6 meals with the last two not having any carbs

nice. did you do any cardio at all man? i mean i run a LOT because of the fact that i am going to the seals at least 5 miles a day and then 10 miles sometimes 5 in the morn 5 another. do you think it's okay to run at least 5 miles a day while on sd?

[THE_DOME]

i dont really do any cardio, i am really trying to bulk. How much do you weight?

[lc1987]

i dont really do any cardio, i am really trying to bulk. How much do you weight?

5'7' 165 13% bf. i run cuz of the seals man. i have to build endurance.

[THE_DOME]

how old are you

[lc1987]

how old are you

19 y/o i know i am still pretty young but i wanna go into the seals looking pretty big and stuff and also this might be my first and last time doing this b/c i wouldn't be able once im in the seals

[THE_DOME]

sd and other anabolic due stunt growth, and you are only 5'7 you probally still growing,

[lc1987]

sd and other anabolic due stunt growth, and you are only 5'7 you probally still growing,

lol i've only grown about an inch since i was a froshman in highschool. i was 5'6 back then about 5 years ago then never grew. also they prefer shorter guys in the seals despite of what you may have seen in the movies or been told. but thanks for the advice man. p.s. when you said stunt growth did you mean i am gonna shrink or just not gonna grow taller any more? so do you think is it ok to run while on sd?

[THE_DOME]

you wont grow any taller. but anyways if you start taking sd make sure you get all the neccesary vitamins posted at the begining of this thread. just eat 6-8 meals get 300g of pro and eliminate carbs after five, you should be able to gain 5-10 easy

[lc1987]

you wont grow any taller. but anyways if you start taking sd make sure you get all the neccesary vitamins posted at the begining of this thread. just eat 6-8 meals get 300g of pro and eliminate carbs after five, you should be able to gain 5-10 easy

thanks a lot bro. i pretty much have most of the supps that i need except for red yeast. is this necessary? also as for the running question again man do you think it's ok to run?

[THE_DOME]

in my opinion i would limit it just while your on your 4week cycle so you can focus on weight training. mabee like run three days a week, possible do them on non work out days.

[D-Bo Dre]

Wussup Dome and 1987.. I am on day 2 of PCT and actually gained 2 more lbs.. Kinda strange but true. All together I put on about 12lbs from SD. My strength is steady and I am still having great workouts. SD def. gave me lean muscle but during PCT I want to focus on getting more cut, expecially in the abs. I am taking Nolva at 40 for this first week then 20/20/20. Prob. going to have a blood test on the third week to make sure my liver values are back to norm.. (I am itching for a beer, cant wait) :7up:

[D-Bo Dre]

thanks a lot bro. i pretty much have most of the supps that i need except for red yeast. is this necessary? also as for the running question again man do you think it's ok to run?

HEy, If you are really concerned about gaining unwanted fat from the SD, I recommend you look into a supplement called Censor instead of Red Yeast. It is great for maintaining healthy choleterol levels and supports stubborn fat loss. This is what I used intead of red yeast rice and it runs for about the same price. Look into it bro..

[THE_DOME]

nice to hear from ya d-bo, how are the strenght gains overall, i ahve been on pct for about 8 days now.

[lc1987]

HEy, If you are really concerned about gaining unwanted fat from the SD, I recommend you look into a supplement called Censor instead of Red Yeast. It is great for maintaining healthy choleterol levels and supports stubborn fat loss. This is what I used intead of red yeast rice and it runs for about the same price. Look into it bro..


wut up man. where did you get your censor bro? how much is it? cuz i don't think they have it at the local vitamin store.

[l2elapse]

III, what were you before after stats and training history?

[lc1987]

i will start my sd cycle this tuesday. it's gonna be 10/20/20/20 and i will take the following supps:
hawthorne berry extract 1000 mg
no flush niacin 1000 mg
milk thistle 1050 mg
efa's 10-15 g
multivitamin 2 pills a day
vit.c 4 g a day

training:

day 1
chest 9 sets
back 9 sets

day 2
shoulders 9 sets
traps 5 sets
legs 9 sets
calves 4 sets

day 3
triceps 9 sets
biceps 9 sets

day 4 rest

day 5 back to day 1

diet would be clean bulk. i would take about 200 grams of carbs, 250 grams of pro and about 40-50 g fat

for pct i will be taking the same supps as my cycle but i am gonna add clen for only 2 weeks and i am gonna cut during pct. maybe downing carbs to 130-150g. here is my clen plan

day1 20mcg
day2 40mcg
day3 60mcg
day4 80mcg
day5 100mcg
day6 120mcg
day7 120mcg
day8 120mcg
day9 120mcg
day10 100mcg
day11 80mcg
day12 60mcg
day13 40mcg
day14 20mcg

taurine 5g a day

should i stop clen after 2 weeks? is it good enough? also where can i get a mcg measurer because i will get the liquid clen from i b e nutrition and i don't wanna mess things up? please critique my plan! thanks guys.

[D-Bo Dre]

nice to hear from ya d-bo, how are the strenght gains overall, i ahve been on pct for about 8 days now.

Wussup bro.. I wonder what happened to the others that started this thread with us, like diponyou and III?? Anywayz, my strength gains have been great, I def. can lift heavier weight now than ever before.. However, I am sometimes hesitant going too heavy b/c I am scared of injury. I hurt my shoulder couple months back and dont want to re-injure it.. I sometimes have to be pushed by my buddy at the gym to go heavier, but I'm glad because it reveals my true potential..

When do u usually take your nolva?? and your jumping on test afterwards right'? talk to u later.

[D-Bo Dre]

wut up man. where did you get your censor bro? how much is it? cuz i don't think they have it at the local vitamin store.

I got it at GNC.. it is made by NDS Nutrition. It has ***** 3-6-9, has oils for joints, supports heart health, maintains cholesterol levels, and supports fat loss. like $39. check it out. Worked great for me.

[THE_DOME]

Wussup bro.. I wonder what happened to the others that started this thread with us, like diponyou and III?? Anywayz, my strength gains have been great, I def. can lift heavier weight now than ever before.. However, I am sometimes hesitant going too heavy b/c I am scared of injury. I hurt my shoulder couple months back and dont want to re-injure it.. I sometimes have to be pushed by my buddy at the gym to go heavier, but I'm glad because it reveals my true potential..

When do u usually take your nolva?? and your jumping on test afterwards right'? talk to u later.


My nova is liquid i take it in tme morning with my pwo shake. I am going to start my test dbol cycle april 1. so my sd cycle will be three on three off then my test, i am not really sure what to expect as far as gains, i just put on 10lbs. with dbol i will put on some quick water weight and then test-e will kick in, but after about ten weeks of bulking i am gonig to cut the last 5 with test prop and clen. hopefully about 240 with 6-7percent bf

[D-Bo Dre]

My nova is liquid i take it in tme morning with my pwo shake. I am going to start my test dbol cycle april 1. so my sd cycle will be three on three off then my test, i am not really sure what to expect as far as gains, i just put on 10lbs. with dbol i will put on some quick water weight and then test-e will kick in, but after about ten weeks of bulking i am gonig to cut the last 5 with test prop and clen. hopefully about 240 with 6-7percent bf


240 with 6% body fat is really impressive. Do you plan on competing? You are really dedicated bro, I dont know how you do it!! I finished my superdrol and cant wait to get through pct.. Going out to clubs and bars without drinking alcohol has been really hard especially when you have alcoholic friends who do nothing but tempt you :icon_piss :icon_piss But I'm really happy with the results I got, cant wait for summer.. talk 2 you later.