View Full Version : HD-50 plus PP for 4 weeks. Why or why not??
Teegunn
02-17-2006, 12:53 AM
I have run both HD-50 and PP for separate 4 week cycles. Each product gave me around a 10lb lean gain. I have two boxes of HD-50 (original run) and one bottle of PP on hand. I have been playing with the idea of running two tabs of HD-50 and one or two caps of PP for 4 weeks. Would this be redundant on the DMT, or would this be a good stack?? Why or why not??
Thanks,
T
Lil man 10
02-17-2006, 01:26 AM
sounds pretty toxic to me man but I dont know alot on the hd-50 Ive heard of some over on EF that do pp and sd stacks and the largest affect is in thier cholesterol
Teegunn
02-17-2006, 02:09 AM
I've done a considerable amount of research on these compounds - I was just looking for a little more feedback from people who know something more about their actual chemical makeup and why taking them together would be a good, bad, horrible idea. I am not looking for "guesswork".
HD-50 converts to Oral Turninabol - which is not considered toxic, or at worst only mildly toxic.
PP is basically DMT/Madol, from all accounts, and is again only mildly toxic.
Superdrol has been shown to be fairly toxic and also extremely hard on the lipid profile. I have run superdrol - and while the gains were excellent, the sides were 10 times worse than PP or HD-50.
So my question remains - why or why not to run HD-50 and PP for a 4 weeker?? Maybe just one tab of each?? Or 2 tabs of HD-50 and one PP daily?? I have a feeling that these would make a good stack, but I would like some feedback from anyone who has run them together or who would have more knowledge about how these compounds may work in conjunction.
Thoughts?
Papi93
02-17-2006, 08:31 AM
Bump for Bryan2.
210-6foot
02-17-2006, 06:37 PM
Sounds like a lame stack, but just do it and tell us if you live =) You could be the first monkey hehe.
novastepp
02-17-2006, 07:55 PM
Sounds like a lame stack, but just do it and tell us if you live =) You could be the first monkey hehe.
not a good idea :)
bump for Bryan2...too...
210-6foot
02-18-2006, 01:31 AM
lol, well if your stupid enough to think of it... why not try it =P I am just kidding, that isn't safe. Wouldn't Hd50 be better stacked with max lmg?
Teegunn
02-18-2006, 08:51 PM
lol, well if your stupid enough to think of it... why not try it =P I am just kidding, that isn't safe. Wouldn't Hd50 be better stacked with max lmg?
Well, since ergomax LMG is a dirtier version of PP, I can't see the sense behind that.
And to the person who thinks it would be a lame stack - have you ever used either compound on its own??? If so, please tell us your results.
210-6foot
02-18-2006, 10:53 PM
PP I did, nice results... actually, results are going to be posted soon in members pictures. I am starting a thread here to direct people to it. It's going to be nice. I have only been lifting for a year and I gained 59 pounds. I gained another 12 pounds after PP. I never did HD-50, maybe in the near future? I am currently cutting up. I could see PP being stacked with something, but idk... HD-50 just dosen't click to me. Why not something less effective? Like dhea or something on that lines? Just trying to give some opinions.
Papi93
02-20-2006, 08:41 AM
Bump again for Bryan2.
Milky87
02-21-2006, 12:40 AM
Im not sure if the obvious has been mentioned yet or not so here it is: both orals.
Now, I personally think that Halodrol would be quite weak in terms of hepatoxicity, and I havent read much in terms of phera-plex's, so I dont know how damaging it would/could be
Teegunn
02-22-2006, 07:06 PM
PP I did, nice results... actually, results are going to be posted soon in members pictures. I am starting a thread here to direct people to it. It's going to be nice. I have only been lifting for a year and I gained 59 pounds. I gained another 12 pounds after PP. I never did HD-50, maybe in the near future? I am currently cutting up. I could see PP being stacked with something, but idk... HD-50 just dosen't click to me. Why not something less effective? Like dhea or something on that lines? Just trying to give some opinions.
Thanks for the reply. I have done both PP and HD50. Both gave me a good solid lean gain. Neither seemed to effect me negatively in any way that I could feel. I am getting some blood work done soon, so I can have a baseline to go by if I do decide to do this mild stack. I have also used DHEA, but only as a part of my PCT. I can't really tell if it did anything or not. My gut says it didn't do much. In the FWIW department, of course I know these are both orals, albeit mild orals. I think I would be more worried about liver issues going out on weekend drinking binges (which I rarely do anymore). If I decide to do this stack, I will check back into this thread.
Teegunn
02-22-2006, 07:09 PM
PP I did, nice results... actually, results are going to be posted soon in members pictures. I am starting a thread here to direct people to it. It's going to be nice. I have only been lifting for a year and I gained 59 pounds. I gained another 12 pounds after PP. I never did HD-50, maybe in the near future? I am currently cutting up. I could see PP being stacked with something, but idk... HD-50 just dosen't click to me. Why not something less effective? Like dhea or something on that lines? Just trying to give some opinions.
If you gained 59 LEAN lbs in a year, I wouldn't be complaining. I have put on around 30 in the last nine months. This does fluctuate by about 5lbs depending on many variables, but for the most part I have kept my gains. I should add that I have lost around 3% bodyfat in that timeframe too. I started around 10% and now am about 7%. So I leaned out and put on some good lean muscle. I'm happy with the results.
Teegunn
02-22-2006, 07:10 PM
Hmm... I just noticed I quoted you twice. Sorry about that!
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