First Pic, Critque Please

[-DedicateD-]

First time posting a pic, please critique so I can improve

21 y/o
5'7-5'8
190-195lbs
bf%-??

[tman55]

bro you have some mass on you. very nice work. you look really good.

[tman55]

oh btw your arms look different. did you have an injury?

[chest6]

You've got some serious size. Leg pics?

[-DedicateD-]

oh btw your arms look different. did you have an injury?

it may be the lighting....my arms peak different ALOT of the time... its a weird problem ...i have problems getting an equal pump too...dont ask me why????

[Anabolios]

any cycles? if you dont mind sharing you look like you have good mass everywhere leg shots?

[-DedicateD-]

You've got some serious size. Leg pics?

yeah like 90 percent of the ppl on tha board say, they are lacking i got a few just deciding which is the least embarasssing to post

[-DedicateD-]

any cycles? if you dont mind sharing you look like you have good mass everywhere leg shots?

i have done 1 superdrol cycle about 2 months ago....never anything more then that

[Anabolios]

i have done 1 superdrol cycle about 2 months ago....never anything more then that
well hats off to you for the hard work i say you name speaks very well for yourself good work

[ToTheBuckeT21]

jacked as hell bro.. good work

[-DedicateD-]

jacked as hell bro.. good work

thank you

[tman55]

oh btw your arms look different. did you have an injury?

just curious. not that it matters, you look huge.

[-DedicateD-]

here are the legs...
lacking in comparison to upper body, but that is what you get when you dont have priorities in check when your lifting in highschool... slowly getting better with time tho

[Hellmaskbanned]

Good job, Can't believe you weigh 190, thought you were over 2.

[-DedicateD-]

Good job, Can't believe you weigh 190, thought you were over 2.

yeah i wish, my scale at school is shot so i havnt gotton a great reading in awhile...200 is still a goal i want to be able to get to.

[swizole]

jacked dude!

[hardgainer12]

ur in highschool?

[vacarski]

Diesel

[juicetexas]

D**n bro your lookin' jacked man keep it up.......I hate doing legs still and i'm 24 but you can't build egyptian pyramid on a couple of twigs:) good luck lookin huge so far

[-DedicateD-]

ur in highschool?

nah im a senior in college....my highschool comment was why my legs were lacking...in hs all i wanted to do was get big up top and ignored the bottom. which has caught up to me now that im more mature

im curious to see what i need to work on besides legs....any crticism is more than welcome and would be appreciated

[-DedicateD-]

ill post some more pics when i get back to school, im on my home computer now so the files arnt here

[BlueAndromeda73]

lookin large bro nice work, keep up the hard work and congrats

[-DedicateD-]

lookin large bro nice work, keep up the hard work and congrats

thank you, it feels good to have hard work appreciated

[swizole]

whats your diet look like, cutting or bulking?

[-DedicateD-]

whats your diet look like, cutting or bulking?

i was doing a dirty bulk in the fall/winter to put on alotta weight, which i did. i have always had a quick metabolism so i never got too fat... starting in january-feb i starting taking out the extra carbs and sugar, but would still consider my diet a clean bulk leaning towards a cutting diet. i LOVE to eat so unless i choose to compete one day i will never get as strict as some of the diets that are posted here in the forums. im used to holding some weight around my waste and sides, although it does mess up the v-taper a bit.

[gellert32]

looking jaked man, nice work

[swizole]

shit, it dont mess it up to much, I would rather eat more relaxed and look like u, then be strict and unhappy and be all shreaded to shit!

[-DedicateD-]

shit, it dont mess it up to much, I would rather eat more relaxed and look like u, then be strict and unhappy and be all shreaded to shit!

yeah i give a lot of respect to the people who can really diet and cut hard ... it takes a lot of will power, dedication, and planning to be able to pull that shit off. maybe one day ill give it a try, but i like where im going with my look now so ill keep it up

[timtim]

awesome work, looking real good.

[GQ-Bouncer]

your a machine!

[Want2bhuge]

your jacked, and natural? what's your workout look like?

[-DedicateD-]

your jacked, and natural? what's your workout look like?

yeah im natural xcept for the SD cycle...my workouts are most likely considered overtraining by most. i do a 5-day split hitting every body part once: chest, back, shoulders, legs, arms

i try and do 18 sets total for big body part, usually 6 diff exercises 3 sets each. its more of instinctive training now, nothing is ever written down or set in stone, ill mix up the weight, intensity, and exercises a little bit each time.

any specific questions let me know

[CLeeK]

here are the legs...
lacking in comparison to upper body, but that is what you get when you dont have priorities in check when your lifting in highschool... slowly getting better with time tho

Very bulky. It's nice to see someone with a little weight to them, not all scrawny.

But dude, is that a sock in your drawers??

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Very bulky. It's nice to see someone with a little weight to them, not all scrawny.

But dude, is that a sock in your drawers??

Yeah thats a pretty weird question that prob didnt have to be asked...

[ManWhore]

Looking swole bro....good job

[smokethedays]

nice ass job bro. keep it up. r u planning on any cycles?!!

[copenhagen]

great base bro, no reason why you won't be a FREAK!

[-DedicateD-]

nice ass job bro. keep it up. r u planning on any cycles?!!

thanks, ive always been curious where i would be with a cycle or 2 under my belt.... i have nothing serious planned out yet. im graduating college in bout 2 months and starting a job. i want to make sure im able to devote as much time as necessary to the gym as i do now before i start a cycle.

another reason i chose to wait is just becuase i kept seeing gains naturally. i didnt want to jump into a cycle too early when i know i wuld be able to get there on my own.. maybe one day

[Carlos_E]

here are the legs...
lacking in comparison to upper body, but that is what you get when you dont have priorities in check when your lifting in highschool... slowly getting better with time tho


Nice shape, size and symmetry on your upper body. Very good for 21. Hamstrings and calves look like they could use some work.

[-DedicateD-]

Nice shape, size and symmetry on your upper body. Very good for 21. Hamstrings and calves look like they could use some work.

thanks for the criticism, ill post some more pics of them in a few days to get a better view on the board

[soccer#3]

I wouldnt cycle if i was u. U look at least if not better than most ppl here who do cycle. Just keep doin what ur doin, seems like its workin.

Dude what do u eat if ur all natural.

[-DedicateD-]

I wouldnt cycle if i was u. U look at least if not better than most ppl here who do cycle. Just keep doin what ur doin, seems like its workin.

Dude what do u eat if ur all natural.

i eat the same things everyone else does i assume....normal eggs tuna chicken oatmeal rice steak if im lucky, im also not afraid of a good cheat day here and there, nothing really out of the ordinary

for a cycle, i still really havnt decided yet, im still learning everything i can about it so if i choose to later and be educated and have all of the basics covered

[mrmmonster]

mate u look great, i woiuld hold off a cycle and get as far as ya can naturally..

havent read all of this thread so sorry in advance if someone has asked this but u thinkin of competin?great genetics fella...when i saw ya pic at first i thought u had a great physique even for someone who had juiced, but to be pretty much natural, i take my imaginary hat off t ya!!

[MatrixGuy]

Look amazing bro. Keep up the good work!

[-DedicateD-]

mate u look great, i woiuld hold off a cycle and get as far as ya can naturally..

havent read all of this thread so sorry in advance if someone has asked this but u thinkin of competin?great genetics fella...when i saw ya pic at first i thought u had a great physique even for someone who had juiced, but to be pretty much natural, i take my imaginary hat off t ya!!

Thanks for the compliment, i get asked about competing a lot, i have considered it but am not in that point in my life where i feel i can dedicate tha amount of time necessary to compete

[-DedicateD-]

Look amazing bro. Keep up the good work!

thank you

[LatinoPR]

Dude ...WTF...awesome god job Bro...!

[Therocksbiggestfan]

Damn Man, Impressive I wish I looked like that...do u mind telling what a meal day would look like for u...

[CLeeK]

Yeah thats a pretty weird question that prob didnt have to be asked...

Are you mad I caught you?

[-DedicateD-]

Damn Man, Impressive I wish I looked like that...do u mind telling what a meal day would look like for u...

do you mean like a regular meal, or a cheat day or what? sorry i didnt really understand your question

[DBflash21]

Are you mad I caught you?

Caught him doing what? Why are you checking out his package? Lookin good bro, nice lats.

[AnabolicAndre]

Wow how long have you been training?

I'm your age and I'm not near where your at, at all. I need to step it up.

[-DedicateD-]

Caught him doing what? Why are you checking out his package? Lookin good bro, nice lats.

thanks man, i appreciate it

[-DedicateD-]

Wow how long have you been training?

I'm your age and I'm not near where your at, at all. I need to step it up.

i started lifiting when i was about 14, but didnt know enough to put together a workout or diet, i just kinda went into the gym and copied other people or did what i thought looked right.

i got serious with my workouts about 4 years ago, saw some great results but couldnt put on enough weight. it was actually a year and half or so ago when i really started getting my diet in check, i thought i was eating enough throughout the day until i cam on this site and realized what needed to be done. and since then besides getting sick occasionally and some injuries ive been consistant which i feel is a major reason why im where im at

[CLeeK]

Caught him doing what? Why are you checking out his package? Lookin good bro, nice lats.

Well, yeah... I mean it's BULGING right out in the picture like there's a soccerball in his pants!

Didn't mean to post post an irrelevant thread. I will say you look good man, very thick and intimidating looking. I didn't want to get under your skin with the comment, just joking around. :asskiss:

[-DedicateD-]

Well, yeah... I mean it's BULGING right out in the picture like there's a soccerball in his pants!

Didn't mean to post post an irrelevant thread. I will say you look good man, very thick and intimidating looking. I didn't want to get under your skin with the comment, just joking around. :asskiss:

just use some common sense when deciding what and what not to comment on when looking at members pictures

[Carlos_E]

Well, yeah... I mean it's BULGING right out in the picture like there's a soccerball in his pants!

You have unresloved issues. I am gay and I didn't notice. What does that say about you.

[Carlos_E]

just use some common sense when deciding what and what not to comment on when looking at members pictures

Agreed

[-DedicateD-]

Agreed

thanks for the support

[Therocksbiggestfan]

A regular training day, is what I mean
like a diet

[-DedicateD-]

A regular training day, is what I mean
like a diet

this is just a sample of what i wuld eat... the meals may not be in teh same order each day or be combined exactly how they are...i try to keep most of the carbs in the morning if i can. i keep as strict as i can but wont go too crazy...if i can ill throw in some steak instead of the meat and maybe a salad or some vegetables on the side if available..

900am - 9 eggwhites 1 egg, 1 cup oatmeal
1015 - gym
12 - whey protein shake, 1/2 cup oatmeal
1pm - 12oz chicken, 1 slice whole wheat bread
4 - 2 cans of tuna, 1/2 cup cottage cheese
7 - 12oz chicken, couple of tablespoons of PB
9 - 9 eggwhites, 1 egg, whey protein shake
11 - 1 cup cottage cheese, 3/4 cup almonds

[Alex Rodriguez]

this is just a sample of what i wuld eat... the meals may not be in teh same order each day or be combined exactly how they are...i try to keep most of the carbs in the morning if i can. i keep as strict as i can but wont go too crazy...if i can ill throw in some steak instead of the meat and maybe a salad or some vegetables on the side if available..

900am - 9 eggwhites 1 egg, 1 cup oatmeal
1015 - gym
12 - whey protein shake, 1/2 cup oatmeal
1pm - 12oz chicken, 1 slice whole wheat bread
4 - 2 cans of tuna, 1/2 cup cottage cheese
7 - 12oz chicken, couple of tablespoons of PB
9 - 9 eggwhites, 1 egg, whey protein shake
11 - 1 cup cottage cheese, 3/4 cup almonds
u look like ****ing arnold... Whats ur bench, squat, etc?

[-DedicateD-]

u look like ****ing arnold... Whats ur bench, squat, etc?

thanks, i try and get a 1rm every once inawhile to track progress, nothin special

bench - 360
squat - 425
dead - never max'd out i usually just do 350 for around 8

im not really sure what else yah wanna know lemme know

[train410]

keep it up bro, you got some good genetics, your on your way to do some damage some day...

[-DedicateD-]

keep it up bro, you got some good genetics, your on your way to do some damage some day...

thanks

[chest6]

Damn man you're like bigger naturally than arnold got naturally. Thats some crazy shit. Thats some crazy genetics.

[*Narkissos*]

Nice shape, size and symmetry on your upper body. Very good for 21. Hamstrings and calves look like they could use some work.

Ditto.

Looking great overall tho :thumbsup:

[juiceboxxx]

Great Work. Amazing progress.Keep it up.

[DBflash21]

Well, yeah... I mean it's BULGING right out in the picture like there's a soccerball in his pants!

Didn't mean to post post an irrelevant thread. I will say you look good man, very thick and intimidating looking. I didn't want to get under your skin with the comment, just joking around. :asskiss:

Sorry bro, the first thing I normally look at is upperbody, symetry etc...not a dudes package...

[mrmmonster]

do u tend to stay lean all year round??cos ya diet looks like there isnt much carbs in there so most cals cumin from the protein which looks to be quite high...if ur managing to keep hold of that mass naturally on a carb depleted diet then big props to ya mate...awesome job

[Therocksbiggestfan]

Im totally Jelious!!!!

[-DedicateD-]

Ditto.

Looking great overall tho :thumbsup:

thank you, i appreciate all the responses so far

[-DedicateD-]

do u tend to stay lean all year round??cos ya diet looks like there isnt much carbs in there so most cals cumin from the protein which looks to be quite high...if ur managing to keep hold of that mass naturally on a carb depleted diet then big props to ya mate...awesome job

nah in the fall/winter time i eat like a pig, and have alittle more size and bloat in me ...i do burn fat quick which helps me out, but i lose most of my abs in that time. instead of having just 2 cans of tuna, i would throw in 4 slices of wheat bread to make some sandwitches. with the chicken/steak i would have some potatoes, etc.

i kind of look forward to the fall/winter so i can relax my diet a bit and eat some more of the foods i enjoy

[spound]

You have unresloved issues. I am gay and I didn't notice. What does that say about you.

:owned:

[INM]

I find you a good example of what can be done without using steroids, way to many people jumping into that. I'm in Iceland and there are 16 year old guys here taking orals and doing nothing else in the gym than benchpressing, sad..
Anyway you look very nice, can I say youre visually pleasing without sounding gay? Yeah, I think I can and I did..

Keep doing whatever youre doing cause it seems to be working..

[-DedicateD-]

I find you a good example of what can be done without using steroids, way to many people jumping into that. I'm in Iceland and there are 16 year old guys here taking orals and doing nothing else in the gym than benchpressing, sad..
Anyway you look very nice, can I say youre visually pleasing without sounding gay? Yeah, I think I can and I did..

Keep doing whatever youre doing cause it seems to be working..

i appreciate the comments, i feel the same way, and wonder why more people dont have more patience when it comes to starting gear. granted not everyone has the same genetics or goals for that matter.

[amstaf]

your upper legs dont look that small but the calves look a little behind nice work lookin like a bad mamma jamma keep it up

[-DedicateD-]

your upper legs dont look that small but the calves look a little behind nice work lookin like a bad mamma jamma keep it up

thanks for the criticism, im gunna try and get some pics of the calves up in a bit

[Puffader]

Nice work..! Don't stop whatever your doing, just tweak it a little....

[-DedicateD-]

Nice work..! Don't stop whatever your doing, just tweak it a little....

can u recommend anything imparticular to tweak on my upper body, i know lower body needs some work in certain areas

[TinTin78]

what I can see from the front you look good, just keep hitting it the way you are and it will be fine. Very nice full muscles, not many people have that nice muscle shape.

[-DedicateD-]

what I can see from the front you look good, just keep hitting it the way you are and it will be fine. Very nice full muscles, not many people have that nice muscle shape.

thanks for the post

[timtim]

just noticed your from nj, what county? i'm right outside nyc.

[kloter1]

upper body looks very proportionate. maybe a little more mass on your lats?

[-DedicateD-]

just noticed your from nj, what county? i'm right outside nyc.

im more south in monmouth

[-DedicateD-]

upper body looks very proportionate. maybe a little more mass on your lats?

yeah i was thinkin that, i always thought it was fine in the gym but looking at myself in pictures makes everything stand out

[kloter1]

how big is your waist? a little wider lats would make you appear alot bigger.

[goalseeker]

looking like a monster bro... great job!!

[-DedicateD-]

how big is your waist? a little wider lats would make you appear alot bigger.

waist is around 32 i believe
i def agree with the wider lats tho, im gonna start incorperating weighted wide grip pullups into the routine again see if i can make some changes

[muscleboy63]

Wow guy your arms are f----n HUGE! Got more and better pics and a before type pic? Keep up the great work bro.

[sthrngunz]

damn, your sick looking for 21. hats off to you brother.

[-DedicateD-]

Wow guy your arms are f----n HUGE! Got more and better pics and a before type pic? Keep up the great work bro.

thanks, unfortunatly i got NO before pics...this was kind of just a gradual progresss thing so i never actually saw myself making any significant changes in a short period of time... i will post some other pics soon tho, thanks for your post

[farrebarre]

dude that sucks, ur really tiny, and out of shape.....

nah im just jealous, awesome dude keep it up :D
btw, whats ur bf%?

[-DedicateD-]

dude that sucks, ur really tiny, and out of shape.....

nah im just jealous, awesome dude keep it up :D
btw, whats ur bf%?

i have no idea, havnt gotton it tested in a loooooong time
anyone have a guess?

[sthrngunz]

i have no idea, havnt gotton it tested in a loooooong time
anyone have a guess?
8-10%
what do you do for forearms?

[Bratty4him]

im more south in monmouth
Monmouth cty here too. You look great, keep up the good work.

[daytrader]

HOLY!!!.... Not to ride your dick cuz everyones told you how good you look.... but you have the best build for a natural dude ive seen... and at 21!.... your chest and arms are awsome!... good work bro.... top of the line genetics+dedication=your build

[-DedicateD-]

8-10%
what do you do for forearms?

\a quick circuit after my bi's tri's

cable reverse curls followed immediatly by reverse wrist curls with a 12 lb db followed immediatly by behind the back bb wrist curls

1 min break then the circuit again

[-DedicateD-]

HOLY!!!.... Not to ride your dick cuz everyones told you how good you look.... but you have the best build for a natural dude ive seen... and at 21!.... your chest and arms are awsome!... good work bro.... top of the line genetics+dedication=your build

thanks man, its nice to get recognition for hard work

[-DedicateD-]

Got around to posting some back pics, I realized how hard it is to pose correctly and how much control is neeed in making certain muscles pop out.

[-DedicateD-]

comments and critiques are welcome and will be appreciated as always

[goalseeker]

wow....wish I had those genetics.. lol

[spound]

can u recommend anything imparticular to tweak on my upper body, i know lower body needs some work in certain areas

Your upper body looks good and pretty proportional, but if I had to nit pick....I woudl say bring the lats up some (they already look good, but you can always use more lats, they can really make someone apear much larger). ALso, your arms are pretty proprtional to your body, but your bis are extremely well developed so maybe a little more added tricep mass would do you some good.

Back looks great as well. DO you deadlift? It looks like you might because you have some good thicknes back there, but you have great genetics so if you aren't already I woudl add them into your routine, they will do wonders.

Other than that, just keep adding mass all over (if that is your goal to get bigger) while keepign things proprtionate and you will look quite impressive (not that you don't already).

[-DedicateD-]

Your upper body looks good and pretty proportional, but if I had to nit pick....I woudl say bring the lats up some (they already look good, but you can always use more lats, they can really make someone apear much larger). ALso, your arms are pretty proprtional to your body, but your bis are extremely well developed so maybe a little more added tricep mass would do you some good.

Back looks great as well. DO you deadlift? It looks like you might because you have some good thicknes back there, but you have great genetics so if you aren't already I woudl add them into your routine, they will do wonders.

Other than that, just keep adding mass all over (if that is your goal to get bigger) while keepign things proprtionate and you will look quite impressive (not that you don't already).

great response i appreciate the time you took to give me some pointers...yeah in the pictures my lats are lagging behind a bit i'm going to focus on getting them a little wider from now on, my arms in general tend to grow quick but i will def focus more on puttin some more meat on the tri's , i do deadlift, prob not as often or as heavy as i should be but i know its important so i throw it in there

thanks again

[illuzions]

you look thick ...great work...

BTW im from up north nj, Hudson County

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you look thick ...great work...

BTW im from up north nj, Hudson County

thanks .... didnt know there were as many ppl from jersey on the boards

[juiceboxxx]

You look like a lean mean......... george foremen....... machine. LOL your THIICK bro keep doing what your doing.

[doctorherb]

impressive

[-DedicateD-]

You look like a lean mean......... george foremen....... machine. LOL your THIICK bro keep doing what your doing.

thanks man, i like the name too

[-DedicateD-]

finally got a picture of hams and calves up, hamstrings are definatly lacking, besides regular leg curls, stiff leg deadlifts, and leg press with your feet positioned high on the board, what else can i do beef them up a bit???

[Carlos_E]

finally got a picture of hams and calves up, hamstrings are definatly lacking, besides regular leg curls, stiff leg deadlifts, and leg press with your feet positioned high on the board, what else can i do beef them up a bit???

It's easier to judge hamstrings from a side pose.

I train hamstrings on a separate day than quads to give them a full hour of work. I hit stiff leg deads, standing leg curls, laying leg curls then I do what I call ***** crunches. (Adductor machine. I do the whole stack plus add a few 45 plates.) I found by training my adductor it has filled out my inner thigh. When I'm standing relaxed my inner thighs touch lower. Plus it gives you a nice cut going all the way down to your inner thigh.

[-DedicateD-]

It's easier to judge hamstrings from a side pose.

I train hamstrings on a separate day than quads to give them a full hour of work. I hit stiff leg deads, standing leg curls, laying leg curls then I do what I call ***** crunches. (Adductor machine. I do the whole stack plus add a few 45 plates.) I found by training my adductor it has filled out my inner thigh. When I'm standing relaxed my inner thighs touch lower. Plus it gives you a nice cut going all the way down to your inner thigh.

I appreciate the response, definatly makes me think about what else I need to incorperate into my workouts. THanks for the help. GOtta find out a nice empty time to start doing the abductor machine now...

[stunt954]

Besides working your legs more ( which has already been stated ) ... I think you look awesome for a natural lifter. Keep it up man ... and you are a true inspiration to people who come onto this site... looking to get big without drugs... ( i can't say that for myself though ) ... Keep at it

[Predator77]

Its amazing how naive people are, sure this guy did a good job but his ass isnt natural....shit if he's natural then he should consider going pro cause he looks as big as dorian and ronnie did at 21...and they juiced at 21.....what a joke..

[-DedicateD-]

Its amazing how naive people are, sure this guy did a good job but his ass isnt natural....shit if he's natural then he should consider going pro cause he looks as big as dorian and ronnie did at 21...and they juiced at 21.....what a joke..

I expected a post like this to show up sooner. I can't speak for anyone else, but i question the reasoning behind lying about using any gear. What point would it prove? My self-esteem is fine, I dont need to get post a juiced up picture of myself, claim to be natural so I can be better then other people, and get compliments on myself. I do appreciate positive and negative comments, and all criticism ive recieved. I posted my pictures because i was proud i had progressed this well being natural, and was looking for weak spots to improve.each comment I recieved gave me more motivation to keep up the hardwork. Your post makes you appear insecure and jealous of what some people can achieve with hard work, dedication, and luck from genetics. I thank you for your post though, as it makes me stay natural and work a little harder.

Welcome to AR

[juiceboxxx]

I expected a post like this to show up sooner. I can't speak for anyone else, but i question the reasoning behind lying about using any gear. What point would it prove? My self-esteem is fine, I dont need to get post a juiced up picture of myself, claim to be natural so I can be better then other people, and get compliments on myself. I do appreciate positive and negative comments, and all criticism ive recieved. I posted my pictures because i was proud i had progressed this well being natural, and was looking for weak spots to improve.each comment I recieved gave me more motivation to keep up the hardwork. Your post makes you appear insecure and jealous of what some people can achieve with hard work, dedication, and luck from genetics. I thank you for your post though, as it makes me stay natural and work a little harder.

Welcome to AR

:owned: There always has to be some dumb newbie thats going to become the offical hater. We found it here hmm... why doesnt this idiot post his pics up and will see how natural and how big he is :1hifu:

[Predator77]

Hey first of all i am definately not insecured about myself, there's no reason for me to be jealous. I gained 70 pounds naturally myself but its too obvious that you juice and if you dont then i would suggest that you consider a career in pro bodybuilding, i really dont care what what you are doing cause i am juicing and i am close to being around 270 over 6 feet with the help of couple of cycles... see ya

[Predator77]

[QUOTE= I can't speak for anyone else, but i question the reasoning behind lying about using any gear.
Welcome to AR[/QUOTE]

Perhaps mommy didnt love them enough cause she was busy smoking crack.

Obviously you DONT have the genetics, dude you're 5.7 you are small, shit i am over 6 feet and i dint even juice till i as 230...all you little guys blowing up cause you have low self esteem wait till i get finished then you will know what HUGE really means...right now i am at 250 just wait and watch....case closed

[PROTEINSHAKE]

critique what?? u look great bro

[Undecided09]

Predator Post up some pics of yourself if you so confident...

[-DedicateD-]

Perhaps mommy didnt love them enough cause she was busy smoking crack.

Obviously you DONT have the genetics, dude you're 5.7 you are small, shit i am over 6 feet and i dint even juice till i as 230...all you little guys blowing up cause you have low self esteem wait till i get finished then you will know what HUGE really means...right now i am at 250 just wait and watch....case closed

I would love to know what HUGE really means...you should post some pictures of yourself up so we can see how you've progressed with your cycles. We can also check out the bf% etc...

[Undecided09]

We can have an online POSEDOWN brilliant...

[-DedicateD-]

We can have an online POSEDOWN brilliant...

I'm not even claiming im better or bigger, and he would have to be pretty bad for me to be better at posing. I believe if he swears up and down that hes gigantic after a couple of cycles he should have no problem putting up some pics. if he "doesnt have any" or "cant find them" or "has to borrow his buddies camera" it just looks even worse. I dont even know why im still replying to the posts, i should be taking them as compliments.

[AllNaTtY06]

can you do me a favor big man, and put a a couple relaxed poses, from front and side, purty please?

[Carlos_E]

Predator77 & AllNaTtY06

Stop shitting all over his thread and take this to PM.

[*Narkissos*]

Predator77 & AllNaTtY06

Stop shitting all over his thread and take this to PM.

A little late for that.. time for someone's posting priviledges to be revoked
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I deleted slew of your other posts in this thread

But this one..

Perhaps mommy didnt love them enough cause she was busy smoking crack.

Obviously you DONT have the genetics, dude you're 5.7 you are small, shit i am over 6 feet and i dint even juice till i as 230...all you little guys blowing up cause you have low self esteem wait till i get finished then you will know what HUGE really means...right now i am at 250 just wait and watch....case closed

Unprovoked attack of a member.

I let stay.

You're outta here.

Go play in traffic or something. At 250 lbs you should be an easy target :aajack:
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HAHAHAHA, my girl needs nothing other than me and my schlong, not some fat ass 250lb 15 year old....... stop it you lil model you..... HAHAHAHAHA

I deleted the rest of your responses to predator in this thread.

I'm giving you a week's suspension.

One idiot flaming is enough.. He spoiled a good thread.

Reciprocating was unnecessary... and dumb.

See you in a week

~Narkissos

[lucabratzi]

i should be taking them as compliments.
exactly...bro. ur jacked no way around it. 5.7 or not, u obviously have insane muscle development...and that not just genetics, u should be proud and take the words of the haters as compliments cause they're jealous...did u have any specific diet, or workout routine...

[Undecided09]

Whammy Nark....

[-DedicateD-]

exactly...bro. ur jacked no way around it. 5.7 or not, u obviously have insane muscle development...and that not just genetics, u should be proud and take the words of the haters as compliments cause they're jealous...did u have any specific diet, or workout routine...

not really anything specific.
eat fairly clean but still enjoy myself
one body part a week, vary rep ranges, super sets, exercises OFTEN

the biggest thing i feel helps me out is consistancy and being mentally tough. the days where you dont want to goto the gym and theres 4 feet of snow, and a negative wind chill are the days that count. its not so much missing one workout, its the dedication of pushing through when you dont want to. the times when you could easily go out and drink but you stay in get your rest to get up early for the gym. stuff like that is what i feel made me what i am now. more so then diet and weights. you can learn how to eat and lift right, but you cant teach desire

[TADOLFI]

You, my man, are INTENSE!

I like the work out ethic, like the attitude and would really like to have my body grow like yours did!

Great work!

And just my 2 cents - if you're thinking of competition - check out a show and you'll know if it's something you want to do or not.
If you do go that route I would work more on the forearms, legs, lats.
Triceps will come up naturally once you get in sync with the whole regiment for a show. (Well, at least I think so)

If you just want to keep lookin jacked like this - lats is about the only thing I can mention.

"Can't teach desire" - so true brother!
All the best,
- Troy

[-DedicateD-]

You, my man, are INTENSE!

I like the work out ethic, like the attitude and would really like to have my body grow like yours did!

Great work!

And just my 2 cents - if you're thinking of competition - check out a show and you'll know if it's something you want to do or not.
If you do go that route I would work more on the forearms, legs, lats.
Triceps will come up naturally once you get in sync with the whole regiment for a show. (Well, at least I think so)

If you just want to keep lookin jacked like this - lats is about the only thing I can mention.

"Can't teach desire" - so true brother!
All the best,
- Troy

thanks for the post man, i was actually at one amature show a while ago maybe something to look back into. i appreciate the criticism, already switched up the back routine from previous comments, and im workin on a new leg one now

[lucabratzi]

not really anything specific.
eat fairly clean but still enjoy myself
one body part a week, vary rep ranges, super sets, exercises OFTEN

the biggest thing i feel helps me out is consistancy and being mentally tough. the days where you dont want to goto the gym and theres 4 feet of snow, and a negative wind chill are the days that count. its not so much missing one workout, its the dedication of pushing through when you dont want to. the times when you could easily go out and drink but you stay in get your rest to get up early for the gym. stuff like that is what i feel made me what i am now. more so then diet and weights. you can learn how to eat and lift right, but you cant teach desire
word, im the same way....thats a good attitude...not to get deep on you but keep that attitude with everything u do and u'll be sussesful..but keep up the good work...and happy growing...

[-DedicateD-]

word, im the same way....thats a good attitude...not to get deep on you but keep that attitude with everything u do and u'll be sussesful..but keep up the good work...and happy growing...

haha not to get deep thanks man i appreciate it ...all the best to you too

[BEER WHORE]

pretty good man

[garrettltyra]

hey man, post up some more pics, some side profiles, maybe a relaxed pose or two....

[-DedicateD-]

Here a few relaxed pics as people have been asking for

[lucabratzi]

you are on swole....what are ur lifts...

[Carlos_E]

you are on swole...

True. But looks like he's carrying most of his weight on top.

[*Alex*]

True. But looks like he's carrying most of his weight on top.
and............?????:scratch:

[-DedicateD-]

True. But looks like he's carrying most of his weight on top.

your 100% right, i am carrying the majority of my weight up top...luckily im not competing...i wish i could make the claim that my legs dont grow well, but i havnt worked them as long as the rest so while they are decent, they still lack ALOT of size. im doin my best to get them back up there got myself....a long painful journey

[-DedicateD-]

you are on swole....what are ur lifts...

bench - 360
squat - 425
dead - never max'd out i usually just do 350 for around 8

dont really train to max, just use the 1rm as a rough guideline for progress

[firmechicano831]

damm u cut bro. Well keep hitting the weights hard.

[Carlos_E]

your 100% right, i am carrying the majority of my weight up top...luckily im not competing...i wish i could make the claim that my legs dont grow well, but i havnt worked them as long as the rest so while they are decent, they still lack ALOT of size. im doin my best to get them back up there got myself....a long painful journey

Not trying to be negative. I look and I think if you were carrying the same amount of mass on the legs how much heavier/bigger you would be.

[guest589745]

Here a few relaxed pics as people have been asking for

Lucky mother****er. Im not sure if I missed it but, could you lay out your lifting routine? Im really interested. If you have time, go into detail. Thanks.

You look awsomely badical.:lol:

[-DedicateD-]

Lucky mother****er. Im not sure if I missed it but, could you lay out your lifting routine? Im really interested. If you have time, go into detail. Thanks.

You look awsomely badical.:lol:

one body part a week

mon-chest
tues-back
wed-shoulders/traps
thurs-legs
fri-arms
sat,sun-off

mostly high volume training, usually 18 sets per body part big or small. shoulders day gets alittle more bc traps are in, and arms day gets alittle more b/c of forearms at the end. i vary the rep ranges as i feel necessary anywhere from 4-10 depending on the day and my mood.

[Superhuman]

upper body's got good mass. impressive bis as well. as far as the legs go, you've got a lot to work with because your quads stick out pretty far to the sides and they are pretty full (starting at the knees). you should work on your inner thighs a little more (wide squats).

overall = pretty huge, good work

[-DedicateD-]

upper body's got good mass. impressive bis as well. as far as the legs go, you've got a lot to work with because your quads stick out pretty far to the sides and they are pretty full (starting at the knees). you should work on your inner thighs a little more (wide squats).

overall = pretty huge, good work

thanks for the tip, ill definatly include your advice when i write up a new leg routine to compensate for my weaknesses. i appreciate it

[Undecided09]

My Training split is the same as yours with back monday and chest tuesday being the switch...I like that split alot, how do you feel about it?

[guest589745]

one body part a week

mon-chest
tues-back
wed-shoulders/traps
thurs-legs
fri-arms
sat,sun-off

mostly high volume training, usually 18 sets per body part big or small. shoulders day gets alittle more bc traps are in, and arms day gets alittle more b/c of forearms at the end. i vary the rep ranges as i feel necessary anywhere from 4-10 depending on the day and my mood.


Thats the exact split I was one, I liked it. I just was impatient (one of my downfalls) and switched to this split:

Mon-chest/tris/front delts

wed-legs/low back

fri-back/bis/forearms/traps/rear delts


this split is also working. I think the main thing is to just only do every bodypart once a week.Im noowhere near your size though.

So you never do more than 10 reps?

18 sets per bodypart, so is that basically 18 sets each workout? besides days with traps and forearms.

[hoss827]

You and I are the same height and you have the build that I desire by the time i'm about 25. Congrats to you bro. FINALLY someone who uses their genetics in a good way. I see so much potential from friends who could be monsters and its wasted potential and it pisses me off that I can't have their genetics. (Envy, yes--but also hate because they waste what they have.)

They wont train legs or back. Props to you for achieving what you're meant to achieve.

[guest589745]

What exercises are you doin D?

[-DedicateD-]

You and I are the same height and you have the build that I desire by the time i'm about 25. Congrats to you bro. FINALLY someone who uses their genetics in a good way. I see so much potential from friends who could be monsters and its wasted potential and it pisses me off that I can't have their genetics. (Envy, yes--but also hate because they waste what they have.)

They wont train legs or back. Props to you for achieving what you're meant to achieve.

thanks hoss i appreciate the post

[-DedicateD-]

What exercises are you doin D?

nothing crazy,

chest day has flat bb/db, incline bb/db, decline bb, weighted/unweighted dips, pullovers, flat/incline db flies, cable flies from top/middle/bottom, pushups....ill pick 6 and do em 1 week then pick a diff combo and do that the next week..

back is same thing i have a bank of exercises i choose from and vary it from workout to workout. nothing crazy, most of the same exercises everyone does here

if u want me to go into more detail just let me know

[guest589745]

yea, if you can, let me know what you do for other BPs. I really do appreciate it.

[-DedicateD-]

back day - wide grip weighted/unweighted pullups, close grip weighted/unweighted pullups, bb rows, one arm db rows, t-bar rows, seated cable row, standing one arm cable rows, wide/close grip pulldown, standing lat pullover, deadlifts, hyperextensions

shoulder/traps - bb press, db press, behind neck bb press, arnold db press, rear/lateral/front raises (all variations of) shoulder press machine, db/bb/ezcurl upright rows, shrugs, behind back shrugs, db shrugs

arms - bb/db/ez curl, curls, all variations of preacher work (db/bb/hammer/ezcurl) variations of cable work, close grip bench, skullcrushers, heavy pulldowns, reverse pulldowns, one arm forward/reverse pulldowns, dips...

again ill pick 3 compound exercises and 2 "isolation" exercises to focus on each week ad change them up the next week.

example 1 week will be flat bb press for chest followed by incline db chest press...week 2 will be incline bb chest press followed by flat db chest press...

btw cannibal corpse is comming to one of the clubs i work at this summer in the sounds of the underground tour ...just an fyi

[-DedicateD-]

theres still a bunch of exercises i probably left out, as i sometimes get ideas just by walking around the gym if i remember anything else ill post it up

[guest589745]

btw cannibal corpse is comming to one of the clubs i work at this summer in the sounds of the underground tour ...just an fyi

Cool, Ive seen em a few times. I wish I had more time to go to shows lately.

Thanks again man, I see you basically do everything but, keep it kinda fresh. Thanks. Keep it up ya huge ****er.

[guest589745]

What kinda rest periods you take in between sets?

[-DedicateD-]

What kinda rest periods you take in between sets?

pretty long, usually min-2min...i def should go alot quicker but i feel like i get more out of my next set if i wait it out

occasionally some workouts ill up the intensity on certain exercises or the whole time

[Undecided09]

suprised about ur dead lift, I mean Im 180, deading like 325 for 6...Surprised you dont do more on that...

[fighterinsnatch]

Dude you look freakishly amazing. Congrats on accomplishing that without the use of AAS. Makes me question myself:lol: Its really cool of you to answer anyones questions. Take care.


FIghter

[-DedicateD-]

suprised about ur dead lift, I mean Im 180, deading like 325 for 6...Surprised you dont do more on that...

yeah me too...started deadlifting pretty recently.

since i posted that im working up heavier now, im looking at 375 for around 8. my biggest problem is doubting myself, without a training partner there im always skeptical of pushing my limits with exercises which i can seriosuly mess myself up. (deadlift)

[-DedicateD-]

Dude you look freakishly amazing. Congrats on accomplishing that without the use of AAS. Makes me question myself:lol: Its really cool of you to answer anyones questions. Take care.


FIghter

thanks for the comments, didnt think anyone was gonna respond to the old thread anymore but i guess i was wrong