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kyjelly
05-25-2006, 02:03 PM
Are there any supps, that are helpfull in increasing muscle endurance? Just maybe...

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 02:05 PM
yes

12 grams of Citrulline malate a day each day will work like a charm
also 2-3 grams of Acetyl Carnitine stacked with it will help

other add ons:

Trimethylglycine
and
beta-alanine

kyjelly
05-25-2006, 02:17 PM
Are those 2 things stuff I can get basically any health store or site?

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 02:47 PM
as far a a product goes

try BodyOctane my MAN sports

expensive but good

try to get a 2 bottle combo
which would last you a month

kyjelly
05-25-2006, 03:04 PM
Would this be best todo on a muscle endurance workout? Should I use it with a military workout, or a high rep, low weight workout?

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 03:11 PM
any type of workout where your Vo2 max is challenged and to where lactic acid build up becomes an issue

that particular product is golden bro

just pricy , but that is because the ingredient are.

I know the CEO of that compnay and he knows his stuff.

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 03:13 PM
also note thsat the effect with that product take about 4 days to start building
though indeed there are actute effect

try 1.5-2 servings in the AM and 1.5-2 servings pre event or just midday if no event

kyjelly
05-25-2006, 03:13 PM
cool. yeah, money is somewhat an issue, but I just might try it.

Are all of MAN products good stuff?

Im still debating on if I wanna keep going strength/size, or endurance.

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 03:15 PM
.

Are all of MAN products good stuff?



I'd have to say YES bro

I think you shoudl cycle the Body Octane

1 month on 1-2 months off just to break through

buy 2 bottles and just make an investment for your body

might want to add a dash of CEE into the mix for added synergy

maybe 2 grams each time you take the BodyOctane

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 03:18 PM
add cee to it bro

you will thank me later:)

kyjelly
05-25-2006, 03:20 PM
haha, thanks man. Yr crazy...hahaha


I am def looking into it now. Thanks again.

kyjelly
05-25-2006, 03:22 PM
add cee to it bro

you will thank me later:)


Whats the best CEE to go for?

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 03:50 PM
Citrulline Malate is a lactic acid buffer and help recycle endogenous ATP ( creatine)
the carnitine is also a lactic ascid buffer which help create endogenous ATP ( creatine)
the CEE is a pefect to increase stength as well and has considerable synergy with the above
so you will be that much more advanced

more reps and more stength and the same time

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 03:57 PM
I'd do this:

buy 2 tubs of BodyOctane
150 grams of CEE

mix together in one big tub, put in the fridge and take 3 heaping scoops using the Octane scooper evenly spaced through the day


you will make awsome gains

kyjelly
05-25-2006, 04:00 PM
Well, I dont have a big tub, so I can just mix 75g in each of the Octane tubs.

but back to my other question. Whats a good CEE to buy?

kyjelly
05-25-2006, 04:04 PM
I'd do this:

buy 2 tubs of BodyOctane
150 grams of CEE

mix together in one big tub, put in the fridge and take 3 heaping scoops using the Octane scooper evenly spaced through the day


you will make awsome gains


Since its basically creatine based, wont I just lose the gains as soon as I go off for a month or so?

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 04:12 PM
I think if your protien intake is high whle on that stack you will sythesize a considerable amount of new muscle

if you go cold turkey off the CEE and Octane you will lose some strength but not all if you keep you protien intake high

also if you just take 3 gram of CEE a day that will be anough to maintain strength generally speaking when you come off the stack

you really dont know whats in store for you
you about to make some of the best gains ever on cycle or off.


the keys are
1) increased protein intake
2) hydration
3) 4 grams of CEE minimm 6 grams max
5) 2 scoops bodyoctane a day, preferably 3 max

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 04:13 PM
good cee is primaforce
250 gram small tub

lab tested

kyjelly
05-25-2006, 04:16 PM
good cee is primaforce
250 gram small tub

lab tested


So if I get the 250g tub, should I mix 125g into each tub of Octane.

I wanna do what you said, with mixing them and taking 3 throughout the day.

My diet is great, and I drink bout 2 gals water a day.

kyjelly
05-25-2006, 04:18 PM
And when you say take the 3 evenly throughout the day, so I so 1 wake up, 1 pre workout (bout midday), and 1 before bed?

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 05:55 PM
And when you say take the 3 evenly throughout the day, so I so 1 wake up, 1 pre workout (bout midday), and 1 before bed?


yep:)

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 05:57 PM
So if I get the 250g tub, should I mix 125g into each tub of Octane.

I wanna do what you said, with mixing them and taking 3 throughout the day.

My diet is great, and I drink bout 2 gals water a day.


no

I would mix about 100 g in each tub

your shooting for 12 grams of Citrulline malate and 6 grams of CEE a day
with 3+grams of Carnitine Tartrate
and the beta-alanine as well

kyjelly
05-25-2006, 08:13 PM
How would I go about mixing them? Just throw them together and shake it up or what?

OMEGA
05-25-2006, 10:56 PM
actually just mix a small teaspoon of CEE per scoop of BodyOctane