Start PP or wait for Tbol for 1st cycle?

[Natty99]

Hey Everybody,

Stats

6'1.5"
195 lbs
24 years old
BF - 20% est.
Lifting 2 years seriously and itelligently

I have PP and all of the support needed inlcuding PCT. Been waiting to pull the trigger.

I can't decide whether to just do a PP cycle and put on some LBM or wait till I get my Tbol in another 3 weeks and do a Tbol only cycle!

I do have a pretty high BF% so Tbol would probably help lean me out a little better.

Injectables are out of the question.

What do you guys think?

[Natty99]

Bump for Anyone?

[mwolffey]

tbol will not help you lean out bro...good cardio and diet will...and id personally wait to get down to a lower bodyfat before my first cycle...t-bol imo is much better than phera...good luck bro

[Natty99]

Thanks buddy I appreciate it. I slacked on cardio for my winter bulk and now have some flab :( The urge to get big is very strong!!!!!!!Cant wait much longer.........I'll keep cutting and wait for my Tbol

[TADOLFI]

I've tried both Phera-Plex and Tbol - in my mind there is no comparison. Tbol definitely kicks in and gives steady gains.
The Tbol was 3 a day for 30 days.
I did the recommended cycle of 1 each day 1st week, 2 each day 2nd week, 3 each day 3rd week for the Phera-Plex.
Didn't feel as hard or as though the gains were steady on the PP.


Just my opinion. Others may say PP is better.

[novastepp]

i had great results with pheraplex, never tried T-bol so that is my bias. i would try cutting down to a modest 12% and then bulk. maybe give it a shot after cutting for the summer?

[Natty99]

i had great results with pheraplex, never tried T-bol so that is my bias. i would try cutting down to a modest 12% and then bulk. maybe give it a shot after cutting for the summer?

Go down to 12% Shit man. I hate doing AM cardio!!!!!!! But I know I may look sloppy If I went into a cylce with this high of BF%. Thanks Nova. It just takes a lot of self control knowing my PP and everything I need is sitting right here next to me!